Talk:Chequers plan/GA1

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Femkemilene in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Femkemilene (talk · contribs) 09:49, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply


A good article is (note that not all comments are on the regular talk page):

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    3.  
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Comments edit

I think the major flaw with the current article is the weight given to the different sections. A good article does not have to be comprehensive, but it should not be selective in which parts it omits. For a more balances article, a list of suggestions:

  1. Context (under proposal?):
    1. Can you tell more about how specific and many pages the document is?
    2. can you tell anything about how hard/soft a Brexit this would be? How it compares to Canada style and Norway plus? That citizens' (EU and UK) right are mentioned, but were guaranteed before.
  2. Less on Johnson . Was mentioned on the talk page as well.
  3. More on the response from the EU and reasons why Chequers plan was rejected:
    1. May travelling accross Europe to garner support: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/09/17/hebben-de-britten-spijt-van-hun-keuze-en-elf-andere-vragen-over-de-brexit-a1616764 (Google translate might help you here)
    2. For instance, that is was welcomed as a step in the right direction: https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/donald-tusk-concedes-mays-brexit-plan-is-step-in-the-right-direction-says-hes-a-true-admirer-of-british-pm-37341160.html
    3. That one of the reasons cherry-picking the single market is non-negotiable is that it might encourage other member states to want to cherry-pick too: https://www.businessinsider.com/the-eu-donald-tusk-has-told-theresa-may-her-chequers-brexit-plan-will-not-work-2018-9?r=US&IR=T
    4. That even when tariffs on goods are the same, the UK could get an industrial advantage considered unfair, by relaxing rules on services. https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/09/17/hebben-de-britten-spijt-van-hun-keuze-en-elf-andere-vragen-over-de-brexit-a1616764
    5. a) EUs concern that a third country would execute its customs checks b) Campaigners' claims that this will lead to increased smuggling. https://www.businessinsider.com/the-eu-donald-tusk-has-told-theresa-may-her-chequers-brexit-plan-will-not-work-2018-9?r=US&IR=T
  4. The result of negotiation:
    1. how does it differ from the Chequers' deal?
    2. By stating: "The outcome needs support from the UK parliament and the EU leaders", you seem to imply that the EU parliament has no say in this matter. It does: https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-ireland-european-parliament-would-veto-deal-without-backstop-say-meps/

The article is relatively short, so even though I'm asking for quite a big rebalancing of the article, it should be doable within a week. I'll put the review on hold for now. Femke Nijsse (talk) 10:40, 6 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'm quite happy with the changes so far. I was reading the French version of this article, and noticed some other things are missing from the current article: a quick summary of the events leading up to the Chequers deal, the duration of the negotiations, and maybe reactions from outside the EU (Trump had something to say, but maybe we should just ignore that). I think that the content of the plan is the most important bit to work on. Thanks for your dedication! If you need a couple more days, I'll definitely give them to you. Femke Nijsse (talk) 20:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Just found another source that might be useful for your last section. This source details what parts of chequers are in the political declaration: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/framework-uk-eu-future-relationship. Femke Nijsse (talk) 10:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Since I've not heard from you in quite a while, I have decided to fail the nomination. The major concern is point 3a, and 4. In addition to my comments of the 11th of April, I notice that no other UK party than the Tories are featured in the reactions to the Chequers deal paragraph. This gives me a bit of concern about neutrality. I think it is fair to focus more on the Tory reaction than the other parties combined, but I think a single line should balance.
I hope you don't feel discouraged by my assessment, and continue improving the article for a second attempt! Femke Nijsse (talk) 19:38, 26 April 2019 (UTC)Reply


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