Talk:Chennai/GA2

GA Review

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Nominator: Magentic Manifestations (talk · contribs) 08:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 03:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• Taking. I see that this is a former featured article. 750h+ 03:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  Hi! Thanks for taking this up. Will address the comments as they come. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 05:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Prose

lead

• is the oldest municipal corporation of India and the second oldest in the world after London. "of" ==> "in" Y
• The British garrison established the Madras city and port, and built removed the comma Y
• After India gained its independence in 1947, Madras remove "its" Y
• has the fifth-largest urban economy, and remove the comma Y
• the fifth-largest urban economy and had the third-largest expatriate population in India remove "had" (unless there's a specific date that it stopped being the third largest. Y
• India's automobile industry and hence the name "Detroit of India" ==> "India's automobile industry, hence the name "Detroit of India"" Y
• best cosmopolitan cities of the world change "of the world" to "in the world" Y

etymology

• In July 1996, the Government of Tamil Nadu officially changed the name from Madras to Chennai. unitalicise the names Y
• The name Madras continues in occasional use for the city as well as for places or things named after the city earlier. Could be phrased better. Would recommend changing to something like "The name "Madras" continues to be used occasionally for the city as well as for places or things named after the city in the past." Y

history

• In 1612, the Dutch established themselves near Pulicat, north of Chennai^[25] On 20 August 1639, Francis Day of the British East India Company along Needs a full stop before the reference Y
• The city served as the baseline for the Great Trigonometrical Survey of India started on 10 April 1802. ==> "The city was the baseline for the Great Trigonometrical Survey of India, which was started on 10 April 1802." Y
• the city became the capital of Madras State, predecssor of the current state "predecessor" is spelt wrongly. Also, add the article "the" before predecessor Y

environment

• on the south–eastern coast hyphen unnecessary Y
• in the north–eastern ditto Y
• As of 2018, the city had a green cover of 14.9 percent "percent" ==> "per cent" (Indian English) Y
• As of 2018, the city had a green cover of 14.9 per cent, against the World Health Organization recommendation of 9 square metres of green cover per capita in cities with a built-up area of 71 percent. Waterbodies cover an estimated 6 percent of the total area, and at least 8 percent of the area has classified as open space. all singular numerals should be spelt out in words per MOS:NUMERAL, also change "percent" to "per cent" Y
• of the area has classified as open space. "has classified as" ==> "has been classified as" Y
• The ground water table in Chennai is at 4–5 m below ground on average and is replenished mainly by rain water. "ground water" and "rain water" should be "groundwater" and "rainwater". Y
• The crust has old granite rocks dating back to nearly a billion years "to" isn't needed Y
• Chennai receives majority of rainfall from the NE monsoon between ==> "Chennai receives most of its rainfall from the NE monsoon between" Y
• Chennai is also a popular city for birding with more than 130 I'd recommend only linking "a popular city for birding", not "Chennai is also a popular city for birding" Y
• Chennai had many lakes spread across the city but urbanization comma needed before "but" Y
• disappeared with only 25 percent of the erstwhile "percent" ==> "per cent" Y
• The Chennai River Restoration trust set up by the government "trust" should be capitalised Y
• restoration of Adyar River. ==> "restoration of the Adyar River." Y
• Environmentalist Foundation of India is a volunteering group ==> "The Environmentalist Foundation of India is a volunteering group" Y

demographics

• city live below poverty line. ==> "city live below the poverty line." Y
• with 40 percent of the residents ==> "with 40 per cent of the residents" Y

administration and politics

• Chennai city is governed by the is "city" needed? Y
• was founded by the members of the Theosophical Society movement basis the idea conceived in a private meeting "basis" ==> "based on" Y
• continue to dominate the electoral politics remove "the" Y
• Many film personalities became politicians and later chief ministers including C. N. add a comma before "including" Y
• I take note of a single sentence paragraph. Is there anywhere this can be placed? Y

culture

• Tamil is the major language spoken by the Chennai's population with English spoken largely by white-collar workers. ==> "Tamil is the language spoken by most of Chennai's population; English is spoken by white-collar workers." Y
• "mother tongue wise" could be changed to something more formal. Y
• the number of speakers mother tongue wise are as follows, change the comma to a colon Y
• The variety originated with words introduced from ==> It originated with words introduced from" Y
• With the history of city dating back to centuries, the architecture of Chennai ranges in a wide chronology i'd recommend something like "With the history of Chennai dating back centuries, the architecture of Chennai ranges in a wide chronology" Y
• Gothic revival style buildings include add a hyphen between "revival" and "style"Y
• which was originally built by the Portuguese is "originally" necessary? Unless someone took over (which is worth mentioning) I'd remove "originally".Y
• the apostle St. Thomas, was rebuilt in 1893 in neo-Gothic style. ==> "the apostle St. Thomas, was rebuilt in 1893, in a neo-Gothic style."Y
• building (presently the Chennai House), both built in the 1930s, and the Dare House remove the second commaY
• This resulted in the central business district expanding horizontally, unlike other metropolitan cities while the peripheral regions add a comma after "cities"Y
• Gaana, a combination of various folk musics is sung mainly in the working-class area "musics" is not a real word (change it to "music") and and add a comma after "music".Y
• Chennai has been featured in UNESCO Creative Cities Network (UCCN) list since October 2017 remove the abbreviation (do the same in the lead), as it isn't used anywhere.Y
• The city has a diverse theatre scene and is one of the important centres for Bharata Natyam ==> "Chennai has a diverse theatre scene and is a prominent centre for Bharata Natyam"Y
• and is the oldest dance of India "of" ==> "in"Y
• Government Music college capitalise "college"Y
• Chennai is home to many museums, galleries, and other institutions which engage change "which" to "that"Y
• the Government Museum and National Art Gallery are amongst the oldest in the country ==> "the Government Museum and National Art Gallery are one of the oldest in the country"Y
• Chennai is the base for Tamil cinema, nicknamed as Kollywood Kollywood doesn't need to be italicised. Also remove "as"Y
•  Kodambakkam where a number of film studios "a number of" ==> "several"Y
• predominantly south Indian capitalise "South"Y

economy

• exceeded national average growth rates, due to remove the commaY
• organized by Government of Tamil add "the" before "Government" Y
• Chennai has the fifth highest number of millionaries "millionaires" is spelt wrongY
• Chennai is amongst the major information technology (IT) hubs of India. "amongst" ==> "among"Y
• Ambattur Industrial Estate housing various manufacturing units is amongst ==> "Ambattur Industrial Estate housing various manufacturing units are among"Y
• Chennai contributes more than 50 percent of India's leather exports. "percent" ==> "per cent"Y
• Madras bank, the first European-style banking system in India was established on 21 June 1683 followed "bank" should be capitalised, and add a comma after "India"Y

infrastructure

• Minjur desalination plant, the country's largest sea water desalination "sea water" ==> "seawater"Y
• 100 million litres of treated water per day is produced from the Minjur desalination plant, the country's largest sea water desalination plant^[252] Chennai is predicted to face a deficit of 713 mld of water by 2026 as the demand is projected at 2,248 mld and supply estimated at 1,535 mld.^[253] there's two sentences here, but one full stop. A full stop is needed before ref 252.Y
• The city generates 4,500 tonnes "The city" ==> "Chennai".Y
• of garbage every day of which 429 add a comma before "of"Y
• Tamil Nadu Electricity Board headquartered at Chennai. "at" ==> "in"Y
• Chennai has a well developed health infrastructure including both government-run and private hospitals. ==> "Chennai has a well-developed health infrastructure, including both government-run and private hospitals."}}Y
• The first Telugu journal printed from Madras was Satya Doota in 1835 and first Tamil newspaper, Swadesamitran was launched in 1899. ==> "The first Telugu journal printed from Madras was Satya Doota in 1835, and the first Tamil newspaper, Swadesamitran, was launched in 1899."Y
• Chennai has a number of newspapers ==> "Chennai has several newspapers"Y
• The major dailies with more than 100,000 circulation per day include The Hindu ==> "The major dailies with a circulation of more than 100,000 copies per day include The Hindu"Y
• Government run Doordarshan broadcasts ==> "The government run Doordarshan broadcasts"Y
• Many private satellite television networks including Sun Network, one of India's largest broadcasting companies is based in the city. ==> "Many private satellite television networks including Sun Network, one of India's largest broadcasting companies, are based in the city."Y
• by the Tamil Nadu Fire and Rescue Services which add a comma before "which"Y
• Postal services are handled by India Post which dittoY

transport

• The aviation history of the city began in 1910, when Giacomo D'Angelis "the city" ==> "Chennai"Y
• The history of railway in the city can be traced back to 1832 when the first railway line in India was proposed between Little Mount and Chintadripet in the city which became operational in 1837. ==> "The history of railway in Chennai began in 1832, when the first railway line in India was proposed between Little Mount and Chintadripet in the city which became operational in 1837."Y
• Chennai Metro is a rapid transit rail system in Chennai which was "which" ==> "that"Y
• Chennai metro system is being expanded with add "The" before "Chennai"Y
• addition of three more lines and extension of 116.1 km ==> "addition of three more lines and an extension of 116.1 km"Y
• Public bus transport is handled by Metropolitan Transport Corporation (MTC) of Tamil Nadu State Transport Corporation (TNSTC) run by Government of Tamil Nadu. ==> "Public bus transport is handled by the Metropolitan Transport Corporation of Tamil Nadu State Transport Corporation, which is run by Government of Tamil Nadu." Removed the acronyms (as they aren't used later in the article", and added articles.Y
• Chennai Mofussil Bus Terminus (CMBT) is one of the largest remove the acronymY
• Shipping and Waterways of Government of India. add "the" before "Government"Y
• which are managed by department of highways and minor ports ==> "There are three minor ports, which are managed by the Department of Highways and Minor Ports"Y

education

• University of Madras was founded in 1857 add "The" before "University"Y
• are eight government run medical colleges add a hyphen between "Government" and "run"Y
• three three for traditional medicine and four for there's two "three"s. Remove one.Y

tourism and recreation

• The city serves as the gateway to the southern part of India.[359] Chennai was ranked among the top hundred destinations by Euromonitor.[360][361] ==> "The gateway to the southern part of India,[359] Chennai was ranked among the top hundred destinations by Euromonitor.[360][361]"Y
• As of 2018, the city has about 7,000 luxury rooms across four- and five-star categories, with 85 per cent of the room demand coming from business travellers.Y
• Chennai is also home to several several malls. there's two "several"s.Y

sports

• The M.A. Chidambaram Stadium established in 1916 is among the oldest ==> "The M.A. Chidambaram Stadium, established in 1916, is one of the oldest" Y

international relations

• there are 60 foreign representations in Chennai including 16 consulates general and 28 add a comma after "Chennai"Y

Sources

• Like most other geography articles, most sources are state owned, so those should be fine. There are some other sources, like The Hindu and The Economist, that are marked reliable by WP:RSP. The only source I see that raises concerns is the Times of India. Is that reliable? 750h+ 11:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  @750h+ The Times of India is the one of the oldest and highest circulating English daily in India. Having said that, it does not mean reliability as they have advertorials, hence the WP:MREL as per WP:RSP. It might be questionable when addressing contentious subjects, but as a general news source, it is reliable and have been used in hundreds of GAs related to India. As per WP:MREL, if there are instances where you feel that additional citations are required, I can address that. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:12, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

  Okay I’m happy with the response. Spotchecks coming soon. 750h+ 05:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

spotcheck

I'll do six sources. Reviewing this version by the way. 750h+ 09:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• FN 22 and 24 support: "The region came under the influence of Vijayanagara Empire in the 15th century CE."
• FN 95 and 96 support: "The Environmentalist Foundation of India is a volunteering group working towards wildlife conservation and habitat restoration."
• FN 185 and 186 support: "The presence of the weather radar at the Chennai Port prohibited the construction of buildings taller than 60 m around a radius of 10 km till 2009."
• FN 257 and 258 support: "The city's water supply and sewage treatment are managed by the Chennai MetroWater Supply and Sewage Board. Water is drawn from Red Hills Lake and Chembarambakkam Lake, the major water reservoirs in the city and treated at water treatment plants located at Kilpauk, Puzhal, Chembarambakkam and supplied to the city through 27 water distribution stations."
• FN 347 and 348 support: "Indian Navy has a major base at Chennai."
• FN 424 support: "The Foreigners Regional Registration Office is in charge of immigration and registration activities in the city."

@Magentic Manifestations: can you archive some of the links via IABot? Make sure to tap "Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional)". 750h+ 09:07, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

It was already run previously. Will run again to archive missed sources, when the tool is available (currently, it is failing!). Magentic Manifestations (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

plagiarism

Earwig detects a 95% similarity to CDN, but with the highlighted text being there (far) before 2018, it's likely them copying off here. Skipping that, the next largest is an 18.7% similarity to a "hubert.herald.nl" source, which is unlikely. Plagiarism check pass . 750h+ 09:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

comprehensive

• 7,665 word article. Seems to have everything needed for a geography article; comparing it to Canberra, it seems fine, and after my prose check, i found it focused and a fine read, so this is a pass. 750h+ 09:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

image review and MOS review

• All images are appropriately licensed. Most are 3.0, whilst there are some 4.0 and 2.0 with some Public Domain and a "Government of India" license. I've never heard of the latter, but I don't see anything wrong with it as it is government owned. All images have relevant captions. Magnificent Manifestations, can you ensure all images have WP:ALT text? 750h+ 09:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

  Done. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• Let's see the MOS. 7.6K word article, which has a four-paragraph lead, fine. Usual templates (Use [..] English, Use [..] dates, short description, and infobox.). Layout is good too. WP:WTW has been addressed in the #Prose. Lists, which are mostly towards the end, look good too. Pass. 750h+ 09:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

overall

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Final comments

With one concern about the images remaining, I think the article should be fine when you address that, @Magnificent Manifestations:. Best, and well done on the article. 750h+ 09:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• @Magentic Manifestations: sorry about that misspelling of your name. 750h+ 09:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

  @750h+ The concerns have been addressed. Thanks! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:GAN/I#R4, and leave the {{GA nominee}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. 750h+ 14:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

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