Talk:Charlie Hodes/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 14:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Will review this article MWright96 (talk) 14:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lede

• Mention Hodes' nationality in the first sentence of the lede

Early life

• Any information about his parents?
  • Just that they were German immigrants. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 02:08, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• "There, Hodes would eventually play" - would go on to

Amateur career

• "and was still with them the following season" - remained with the team

Chicago White Stockings (1871)

• "as Philadelphia prevailed by a score of 4–1. [8]" - the space inbetween the period and the reference is not needed
• "the White Stockings remained in contention for the league title until the final day of the season (October 30)," - the parentheses aren't really needed
  • I disagree. The date has to be set off somehow, and to do it with commas would just clutter up the sentence with commas too much. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink the term at bat for non-Baseball readers
• "as Philadelphia prevailed by a score of 4–1." - more formal and concise; won 4–1

Troy Haymakers (1872)

• "Troy's season came to an abrupt end on July 23," - more formal; ended early
• "The catcher had less playing time this year, only appearing in 13 of the team's 25 games, but he continued to demonstrate his versatility by playing third base, shortstop, and outfield again." - repetition of "playing"
• "when the team's owners revealed that they would not be able to pay the players." - any reasons given?
  • I'd assume its the obvious one that they didn't have enough money. The book didn't elaborate. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:52, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Brooklyn Atlantics (1874)

• "He returned to Brooklyn and played semipro baseball until 1874," - semi-professional
  • Semipro baseball is actually how it's usually referred to. I would have wikilinked it, but there doesn't seem to be an article on it. However, it is usually written as semipro ball. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 04:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wikilink second base to the appropriate article for non-Baseball readers
• "decided his player needed rest and gave him the remainder of the season off." - clarify this was Hodes that is being talked about
  • Unnecessary; there is no other player mentioned that this could be referring to. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 04:01, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Illness and death

• "November 12 to raise funds for the player's recovery, and a benefit "hop" was held for him later that day," - try avoid using the term "the player's"
  • Don't see what's wrong with using term "the player's" - it's a perfectly acceptable alternative way of referring to Hodes. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 04:05, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Reference

• Be consistent in how the date formats are presented. For example, most references are written as March 30, 2021 while Refs 3, 4 and 9 are written as 2009-01-12 etc.

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above MWright96 (talk) 19:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

• @Sanfranciscogiants17: Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 07:38, 3 April 2021 (UTC)