Talk:Capoeira/Schools

Schools

I placed http://www.berimbau.nl in the European schools section, because its website showed classes only in the Netherlands. I also changed the School heading of "Americas" to "United States," as the only schools listed are in the United States, and none in the rest of the Americas (and, indeed, "The Americas" almost always refers to Central and South America, not including the US). If you wanted this section to be titles "Americas" in case people want to put South American schools, that's fine, but I would recommend having those in a seperate section, titled "The Americas" and leave the US classes in their own group.

But I also have a question: how much of a comprehensive list do you want this to be? There are literally thousands of capoeira school across the world, and it seems pointless to list a random twenty of them. There are several sites that are databases of capoeira schools, however. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to simply link to them? I can give you links to such databases if you want.

--Asbestos 23:25, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I don't know about removing the school list... I know several people, myself included, who found their current school via the wikipedia. Some schools listed here are not in the major school directories yet. Maybe we should have a separate directory page for Capoeira schools? or would that be un-wikipedic? (We have a list of online book retailers...)

We should list the capoeira school directories, but i also feel wikipedia should have a wiki maintained directory too. Just my 2 cents. Having a directory of Capoeira schools on wikipedia means we gotta keep tabs that the links aren't dead or the links aren't just placeholders. (There were a lot of those type of sites in this article, which I've weeded out in my last edit).

Tartaruga 08:07, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Schools

Please refrain from listing sites under-construction (or worse, 404 pages) in the school list. These will be removed promptly.

Tartaruga 09:37, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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I think that this list of schools is getting out of control. There are now over 80 links to individual schools, and Wikipedia articles are not supposed to be collections of links, especially not something like this where the list could easily top a couple hundred if we allowed it to. I suggest we try to limit ourselves to 4-5 informational links only, and abolish all links to individual schools. Those can be easily found elsewhere on the web. I'd suggest limiting our links to something like www.capoeira.com, www.capoeira-angola.org, www.capoeira4all.com and the school databases at www.beribazu.co.uk schools and www.capoeirista.com schools. — Asbestos | Talk 13:25, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I haven't deleted them yet, because I remember Tartaruga objecting before, so wouldn't want to do it behind his back. I still strongly feel, however, that the un-wieldy list of links isn't suitable for the article, especially as there is no real way of preventing it getting ever longer: do we say some schools are allowed to be listed and others not? The school seach directories I listed, and I'm sure there are others, contain very comprehensive lists with far more schools than the 80+ we have here. — Asbestos | Talk 21:37, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Done. The school directories currently listed are many times more complete than we could ever hope to be. — Asbestos | Talk 15:03, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm all for doing it this way. Thanks for considering my earlier opinion though. But I agree that this way is a lot better (and true to the wiki spirit) than the list-o-links that was happening. Schools who wanna get noticed are better off getting listed on DMOZ. — Tartaruga 05:05, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hello guys, let me introduce myself. This is Vadinho from Grupo Capoeira Brasil. Our website has served as reference to capoeiristas around the world ...from finding schools to train...to using the Batizados calendar to plan trips to batizados around the world. We get a massive amount of email from related schools around the world appreciating our job. I hope the site will only add to this section, but if you guys think it'll look like just another school link (which you're trying to avoid here), please go ahead and remove the link, that'll be perfectly fine. Again, just trying to provide more information to capoeiristas around the world. Axe' - Vadinho - 5:12pm CT, 11 Oct 2005

Hey Vadinho, sorry to have to remove your group's links. As good as your group's site serves its purpose to the general public, we cannot show bias in this regard (it is still essentially a site for the group's school), as there are other group sites with just as much information with varying POVs. I think editors need to ask themselves the following questions (Please feel free to edit/clarify/add) before they put up links in the General Information category:

• Does it have links advertising classes (Free or otherwise).
• Does it have a section describing the group and maybe a few affiliates exclusive of others?
• Does it only cover events exclusive to the group?

If the answer is 'yes' to any of the above, I feel that it should not be listed in the wikipedia, and is better off getting the group's site listed in one of the directories we mention here. In this regard, I've also removed links to other groups in my last edit which met the criteria stipulated above. Tartaruga 04:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)