Talk:CU-SeeMe

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I have removed 2 paragraphs from the article. Normally I don't like to do it but I can't even make out heads or tail out of what is said and there seems to be a couple of issues with it being NPOV. Hopefully the author can come back and try to re-articulate what he was trying to say. To that I kindly offer these suggestions:

1. Wikipedia isn't in the business of determining truth or disseminating opinions. Saying "That is not true" is pushing an opinion, try "...Others believed that this was untrue due to reason #1, #2, #3..." and better yet back it out with footnotes.

2. "Falling like rabbits falling from a hat".... I don't even know where to start with this. I am just baffled as to how someone could have seen that so often as to make it a saying.... whatever it means.

Best of luck --Nicklinn (talk) 00:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I believe White Pine Software acquired distribution rights to CUSeeMe in 1996, not 1998. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.170.61 (talk) 06:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Should we make a mention of VChat, the client for OS X that (purportedly) still works with CU-See Me reflectors? The link is at VChat homepage --Connectionfailure 07:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

vchat seems gone,the client had a very uncool expiration build in anyway - hamano removed the Pmrf (cuseeme reflector hack works with whitepine password pretection and does ip randomization)

also i put everything i found here http://ipsix.org/source/  --92.228.141.82 (talk) 23:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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Hierarchical Distribution technology

What was the name of the distribution technology which CUSeeMe made use of (it began with M but I'm not referring to MCU)? I remember that CUSeeMe brought two breakthroughs:

1. the use of mosaic updates of the image, leaving unchanged portions of the picture alone and concentrating bandwidth on the portions which needed updating. It even updated those sections with progressively smaller blocks in order to convey as much information as possible, up-rezzing as bandwidth and time allowed.

2. M-something, in which the video stream was sent to a handful of facilities (large universities at the time), who would then send to another 8-10 points, and so on down the hierarchy, so that the source "provider" of the stream didn't have to have a separate connection with every individual viewer. This was used during retransmissions of NASA TV. If it were properly investigated, this might also deserve mention in the article; naturally, my sketchy information is not sufficient. --Redrocketred (talk) 02:30, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

"hardware quality audio and video"

While not directly competing against hardware-assisted video-conferencing companies, it suffered in that the nascent market was expecting hardware quality audio and video when CPUs of that time weren't really ready to support that quality level in software.

What is meant by 'hardware quality audio and video'? Surely, any video and audio are always coming from hardware (camera or capture card, and microphone. 24.51.192.49 (talk) 02:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)