Talk:CCSID

Clean Up

No idea where to start so im making it a clean up needed artical.

htmlland.net 19:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Reverted 21:37, 11 October 2008 81.187.153.189 (talk) (3,927 bytes) (Removing cleanup tag. The article seems OK to me, and the original justification (on the talk page) for the tag doesn't exactly inspire confidence. and added ((Unreferenced)) (permalink). The article is not "okay":

• "Code page" is IBM/MS-speak. Nobody else calls them that, because the term is meaningless.
• It does not agree with Character set#Modern encoding model:
  • All "character sets" have an ordering.
  • Character sets are less useful when you separate them into languages (cf. Unicode).
  • "all code points in a code page contain the same number of bytes" so what's UTF-8? Where the hell do "bytes" come in? Unicode is a 20.09-bit character set — how many "bytes" is that?
• "This information always includes at least one code page, but may include multiple code pages of differing byte-lengths" what?
• "This is the mechanism which allows us to implement mixed, bidirectional, and other complex encoding" what? Why should bidirectional text affect your encoding?
• "you can think of a CCSID as a Swiss Army knife and a code page as the screwdriver attachment" The existence of this analogy suggests that the article needs cleanup.
• "Only a CCSID will allow you to mix single-byte and double-byte characters, or deal with bidirectional languages" so what's Unicode? What's UTF-8? What's UCS-2? Why should a character encoding specify how to render bidi text?
• Conflation of "CCSID" (an IBM-assigned number used to identify some sort of encoding of something — I'm still not clear what) and "character encoding" (the encoding itself).

The article should say what CCSID means in terms of "modern" terms (i.e. Character set#Modern encoding model), not explain IBM-speak in terms of other IBM-speak. ⇌Elektron 12:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Presumably that's now Character encoding#Unicode encoding model, as the "Modern encoding model" section of Character encoding (to which Character set redirects) was renamed "Unicode encoding model". Guy Harris (talk) 22:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Broken Links

Example: http://www.ibm.com/software/globalization/ccsid/ccsid930.html

The Globalize your business website has been sunset.

19:09, 30 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.94.166.162 (talk)

Redirected to Web Archive— you're welcome. WurmWoode^T 12:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)