Talk:Bx15 and M125 buses/GA1

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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Pi.1415926535 in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Pi.1415926535 (talk · contribs) 06:00, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Starting this review. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:00, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to respond point-by-point with **. {{done}} and its family preferred when applicable. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Pi.1415926535: Thank you for taking this up.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Infobox

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>No, I do not Mtattrain (talk) 22:31, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Lede

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  • The hatnote can be in "See also" instead.
    •   Done
  • The first sentence is far too wordy. I would suggest something like The Bx15 is a bus route in New York City that operates between Fordham Plaza and West Harlem. The route runs primarily on Third Avenue and Willis Avenue in the South Bronx, and on 125th Street in Harlem.
  • No need to mention the Bx41 in the lede - it's only tangentially related to the Bx15.
    •   Done
  • The historical section of the lede needs rewritten and expanded (probably into two paragraphs). It should offer an outline of the major points of the route's history; right now, it's missing a fair bit, including most of the streetcar era. One of the bolded titles of the streetcar line isn't even used elsewhere in the article. If that title is important, add it to the main section, with the citation there. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:50, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Route description and service

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  • This section should stick just to current operations - the streetcar route information should be with the streetcar history. Meanwhile, this section should have a complete (2-4 sentence) description of the current route.
    •   Done
  • The Bx55 paragraph is pretty much redundant to what's already in the history section.
  • Move the ridership section into this section.
  • Add depot and bus type information (especially artics versus non-artics) here, since you have it in the infobox.
  • Add some basic frequency information (something like average headway at peak, midday, overnight, weekend is plenty - no need to get too specific)
    •   Done

As a streetcar line

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  • Four redlinks in this subsection (one of them repeated). Are these likely articles (especially the first one)?
  • Shouldn't the photo be in the bus subsection?
    •   Done
  • Three and four citations after a sentence is generally excessive.
  • It sounds like part of the streetcar route that became the Bx15 was in operation by 1864. If so, I'd rather have that date than the 1895 extension in the infobox.
    •   Done
  • The line about the Fort Lee Ferry would make more sense in the second paragraph than the third.
    •   Done

As a bus line

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  • This is a very long section - seven meaty paragraphs. Might be worth subdividing, but that's by no means a requirement.
  • Some excessive citations here too - one sentence has seven!
    •   Done
  • Any information on when 29 became Bx29?
  • Link Bx6
    •   Done
  • The last three sentences of the fourth paragraph can be combined into one or two.
    •   Done
  • Move the June 2010 sentence to the end of the fourth paragraph. Slightly out of chronological order, but it fits better there than awkwardly in the middle of SBS discussion.
  • This section is long enough for at least two images (including the image currently in the streetcar section). Perhaps move the non-artic image from the current service section?
    •   Done

See also

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References

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I should be able to get to these individually this weekend and finish up the review. For now, a few comments. All reference numbers based on this version. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • For the images of multi-page documents, you only need to have the full citation information once. Then just have "(Pages [2] [3] [4])" with links to the pages at the end of the citation.
    • Done.
  • When the publisher and site name are basically the same, drop the latter. (Sources 6 and 38, for example).
    • Done.
  • Flickr (30) and Ward Maps (24) should use the via field - they were not the original publishers.
    • Fixed.
  • Does citation 45 (which has a typo) really need four sources? The sentence also has two additional sources.
    • Fixed.
  • Checklinks looks good.
  • Citation 20: use via=Internet Archive
    • Done.
  • Lacking a dedicated web page for the route, I'd add this as an EL.

Overall

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@Kew Gardens 613 and Epicgenius: After a literal month (sorry about that!) I'm done reviewing. All that's left to fix is a handful of infobox items and the citations. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Pi.1415926535: Thanks for the review. I have addressed all the remaining comments. epicgenius (talk) 02:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Epicgenius: Still several regarding the infobox. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:14, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Kew Gardens 613 and Epicgenius: All my concerns are taken care of, so passing. Great job! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply