Talk:Brisbane Entertainment Centre

Removal of un-sourced material

How about we just remove everything that is marked as citation needed? Considering that many of the additions were probably added by performers' fans it is unlikely they will come back and source their material. A list of notable events doesn't really tell readers much about the venue anyway. If the citation needed tag has been on the page for a year that is surely long enough. - Shiftchange (talk) 13:35, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I added most of those tags, but it was only back in May, just two months ago, not a year ago. I agree with your sentiment about deleting, apart for one thing. Deleting that unsourced content would remove more than half the article. I would have been more brutal at the time if not for that. HiLo48 (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, it's now been a year since a lot of "cn" tags were added to the article. I intend to remove all the unsourced content within days if no constructive objection is made here. HiLo48 (talk) 08:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Do it. - Shiftchange (talk) 09:18, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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"Notable" events

Most of the events claimed to be "notable" are certainly not. To be notable, an event should have some standout feature, such as record attendance, record takings, most consecutive shows etc. Most of the "events" listed here are just stops on larger tours, without any standout feature. Merely having, for example, Black Sabbath appear at the BEC does not make it a "notable" event. WWGB (talk) 05:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree. This is a problem for many venue articles, but seems worse for the BEC. I guess all fans think a show by their favourite performer is notable, but we need to cut down that list by at least 80%. Yes, removing shows where it was just one event in a larger tour is probably a good approach, but that might completely eliminate the list! (Except maybe Torvill and Dean.) HiLo48 (talk) 06:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I do not agree with that, if it's a tour that really did well/has it's own wikipedia page then its it's obviously notable enough if it has a wikipedia article it has nothing to do with "all fans think a show by their favourite performer is notable" because well let's say Bruce Springsteen for instance he's notable enough to have had shows take place previously at the BEC and same goes for Black Sabbath and Tenacious D if they play a sold out show like Billie Eilish then its obviously notable Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 07:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Sell-out concerts are not significant. They occur frequently. A "notable" concert would have record takings or record attendance, like Ed Sheeran in Melbourne. WWGB (talk) 07:35, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Concerts are designed to be sold out. Such things are not notable.

Well maybe we can change "Notable Events" to "List of Shows" and let people who attended the concerts put them in as a community. Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 05:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

List every show? No way! See WP:NOTDIRECTORY. WWGB (talk) 11:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I totally agree with WWGB. The fact that a concert venue hosted a concert is simply not notable. HiLo48 (talk) 20:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm having trouble understanding why "listing every show" is against WP:NOTDIRECTORY as it doesn't really say anything about it, also I didn't imply every show but since we do have that Michael Jackson show listed and no other shows listed I think it's ridiculous to have one thing listed. Also keep in mind that information inserted into a Wikipedia article is sourced by a community meaning like it or not some people will have their own sources of notability. Obviously if it has a source (like some of the concerts listed before deleted) it should stay and if you have a problem with people who list shows on a arena/stadium/amphitheater article, maybe talk to someone at a higher authority about it. Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 05:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)