Talk:Brian Eaton/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: S Masters (talk) 10:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments: Full stops are needed in the captions as they are full sentences. Otherwise, there are no other issues with this article for GA. I will put this Oh Hold for up to seven days, to allow for this to be done.

Thanks for taking the time to review. Re. full stops, adding them is no trouble particularly, but I don't think any of the captions could really be described as conventional sentences, with the possible exception of Acting Group Captain Eaton cuts No. 239 Wing's third anniversary birthday cake at Fano, Italy, 28 April 1945. Seems odd that through all the GAs and FAs I've been involved in, I don't think I've ever used full stops in captions and never been asked to add them -- has there been some change to the policy lately? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe there has been any change of policy, but the template above clearly states that "suitable captions" are required, and a link is given to WP:CAP. There, under "Wording", it states: Most captions are not real sentences, but extended nominal groups; for example, "The Conservatory during Macquarie Night Lights, a summer festival" (no final period), but "The Conservatory was spotlit during Macquarie Night Lights, a summer festival." (full sentence with final period). - I trust this clarifies. -- S Masters (talk) 05:34, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I read that too, my point is that none of the captions in this article seem to fall into the latter category. Can I also suggest you stop by a just-closed featured article review and note that full stops were required to be taken out of the majority of captions? My next stop after this will be FAC so it will be a bit silly if I put them in for the sake of this review only to take them out again for the next... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:47, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I am aware of the FA criteria. Can I suggest you reword the birthday cake photo so that it will not require a full stop? Then we don't have to worry it anymore. -- S Masters (talk) 09:55, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Just for your interest, today's Featured Article on the Front Page has both captions without and without full stops. You might want to have a look - Antonin Scalia. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 11:07, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Heh, it doesn't look too consistent in that article, does it? Anyway, I've altered the Brian Eaton cake photo caption to a style similar to the others -- I think all now count as 'fragments' rather than complete sentences. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Final comments: Thank you for all the hard work done to make this a better article. I am now confident that it meets all the requirements for a Good Article, and I am happy to list it as such. -- S Masters (talk) 10:28, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that, and thanks for your time! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)