Talk:Bling-bling/Old Discussions 1

A little credibility?

I disagree with the conclusions of this article... "bling" is still alive and well, "Bling-"tones by Sprint PCS is one recent example, the bling stickers little girls buy for their cellphones - even the NYTimes published an article about the US Gold Reserve in NYC, referring to it as "serious bling." If a word makes the OED, it is here to stay. Forget MTV.

The purpose of a dictionary is merely to document ongoing linguistic changes as reflected by their popular use, not to offer any official legitimacy to said linguistic phenomena. The fact that the term "Bling Bling" has made it into OED does not in and of itself define one as less of a fucktard for using it.

Hmm, I thought that "bling bling" comes from the cash-register sound. Like in animated cartoons, when the character gets dollar signs in their eyes and you hear "bling bling". I think this is the real origin of the phrase.

Isn't that more like Ka-Ching? :) Obli (Talk) 21:55, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I think that you have to separate the use of the phrase bling-bling from the use of the word bling (and derivativations thereof). You sound like a jack*ss saying "Man, you have a lot of bling-bling", but it's acceptable to say "Man, that's lot of bling" or even "Man, that's a lot of blingage." While I agree that the word bling is very much in use in popular culture, the term bling-bling is but a vaporous memory from a time long gone.

first used in 1999 in Rap song, dont think so.

The phrase was coined by Tupac Shakur in the song, lets be friends (aka Fuck Friends).

In the First Verse:

"Currency seems small I need companionship (hey) Through with that - scandalous shit, I bet your man ain't shit So why you hesitatin actin like yo' shit don't stink Check out my - diamonds bitch everyone gonna blink (bling bling bling)"

now i dont have a date on when the song was created, but i can be sure that tupac died in 1996 so the song pre-dates the 1999 claim of wikipedia. The other thing i guess is whether or not u classify tupac as mainstream.

This is not a Neutral Article

Some of the wording is this article is very one-sided and perjorative:

"The culture of ostentation and vulgar display of wealth..."

and

"...as it shows that the source of their wealth or their personal prejudices prevent them from investing in more stable assets such as cash in the bank or property"

The wording of both of these phrases leads me to think that the author has some sort of agenda in posting this section. Also,

"....has been seen by some as manifestation of a deeper socioeconomic problem in the US, trivialised by mainstream media and hip hop."

needs a citation.

Deltafront 07:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

No Pimp Cup

I got redirected to this article upon searching for "Pimp Cup". Yet, there are no mentions of pimp cups whatsoever here.

Same here. 131.30.121.23 15:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Weasel words

I think the last part of this passage violates Wiki's Weasel words policy and compromises a NPOV. Is this section a criticism bling or is it a criticism of Missy Elliot?

"In a 2004 television interview, rapper Missy Elliot spoke out against 'bling bling' culture, saying that it encouraged young African American men and women to spend their money irresponsibly. Missy stated that she believed it was important for hip hop artists to act as role models in this respect, and encourage young people to invest responsibly and sensibly in stable, long term assets such as real estate. Some observers found this ironic in that she herself owns several expensive luxury cars, a gaudy-style decorated condo that was featured on MTV's Cribs, and has been seen with expensive luxury clothes."

Forget It(Please read)

Just so ya know, no one says bling-bling anymore.--Peace, Cute 1 4 u 08:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

O Rly?, lol --XdiabolicalX

Of course they don't...well not to be rasict but just sayin that some white ppl do...--Jibbs fan 05:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

But a lot of African Americans, like me, call it ice, icy, bling (rarely), or ice cream (well, Jibbs is the only one I heard say it but i'm gonna start using it). lol.75.34.181.60 22:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

"Just so ya know", people have learned to spell out their nouns. I believe it's "just so you know", and yes, bling-bling is alive and well. Check out songs by the Teriyaki Boys, a japanese rap group, if you don't believe me.

origins have nothing to do with rap

The word originates from the video game culture, if you could call it that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernham (talk • contribs) 08:39, December 1, 2006

Idiot picture

The picture on this article has NOTHING to do with the subject matter, it only looks cool. Can someone either take a picture of their ice (also slang for jewelry) or remove the picture altogether? Scott 110 18:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Ob-La-Di,Ob-La-Da

I removed the following from the origin section:

The term may also have it's roots in the Beatles song Ob-La-Di,Ob-La-Da from their White Album: "Desmond took a trolley to the jewelers store, bought a 20 carat diamond ring (bling)."

First of all, it's 'golden ring' not diamond, second, that the Beatles or the song reference have any relation to bling seems quite absurd. When the link is this tenuous, cite a reputable source. Leekohlbradley 02:14, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

And the word 'bling' isn't in the lyric either. Oinky 07:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

The word bling is quite audible and can be heard right after Paul sings the word "ring," you can hear perhaps John sing "bling" at that moment in the song. https://vimeo.com/92351315 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.140.10.190 (talk) 19:36, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Bling in White London

Bling and Blingin' are currently (June 2007) used extensively in London amongst white kids to denote any kind of flashy jewellery, including, given the income groups of the people concerned, perhaps especially, cheap costume jewellery, so long as there is plenty of it, and it looks flashy. The linkage with cost has been broken, and the look is very street. 160.83.32.14 07:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Ideaphone vs. Onomotopoeia

It's a little fatuous to claim that bling bling is not an example of onomotopoeia without providing some counter theory as to how the phrase suggests the shining of jewelry. Obviously it's by onomotopoeizing the sound of jewelry clinking together, as invariably happens when several necklaces are worn at the same time. Applejuicefool (talk) 18:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Bling is only used for african americans and not old white guys (makes no cents) LIL WAYNE HAS CLAIMED TO BE THE ONE WHO ORIGINATED THE WORD BLING BLING, SO EVEN THOUGH BG IS CREDITED WITH IT, IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT LIL WAYNE IS WIDELY POPULARLY KNOWN FOR ORIGINATING IT.

Well this article needs to be changed, but "bling bling" is more thAn a definition. It represents a gigantic, as yet unnamed, stylisitic shift that occoured in popular rap music starting with certain Bad Boy record releases and being crystalized with the albums of that rapper who did the song "its a hard knock life".

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Not sure what your point is here, please expand. 'That rapper' is Jay-Z == Deletions in article ==

I have deleted the reference to Urban Dictionary's statement about the origination of the word, as Urban Dictionary is not an appropriate reference to source, as anyone can write any definination at all to any word.

The deleted paragraph appears below.

According to the Urban Dictionary [1], the term originated as a Jamaican onomatopoeia for the chime sound in animated cartoons when light reflects off a diamond.

-- Vincentanton 20:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The following paragraph has also been deleted, as it does not conform to Wikipedia standards for an encyclopediac article, and would be better placed on sites such as UrbanDictionary (referenced above).

Miss Blingins The terms "Miss Bling", "Ms Blingin", "Ms Bling Bling", "Miss Blingin", "Miss Blingins" all characterise young single women who like to wear the latest jewelry and fashion accessories made popular by hip hop culture. Some people refer to this persona as The World of Miss Blingins.

Bling H2O

Is Bling H2O named for this, and if so, should it be mentioned under "See also" or elsewhere? Thanks in advance! --Kletta (talk) 23:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with brushing your teeth from the 1970's when you have diamonds and they shine in the light thats when there blinging jewelry on your neck and wrist don't make noise except a watch, but that ticks. Who cares who created it, CASH MONEY at the time was together so its a joint effort. Bird man was getting the money anyway, so for all ya young Ni&@$$ out there trippin y'all sound like fools get off Waynes D!(k. there is a difference facts, common since y'all living fairy tales continue to stay broke.