Talk:Black powder substitute

More punch

Pyrodex powder works great with my 50 Cal rifle. But is there nmore punch" in blackpowder?Dated/Decided! Sn.June28,2009 21st centDr.Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC>SWORDINHAND (talk) 01:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Does Pyrodex offer "more punch" than black powder. That depends. In one sense, a pound of Pyrodex makes more charges by volume equivalence than a pound of black powder. Otherwise:

 Lyman Black Powder Handbook & Loading Manual, Lyman Products Corp, 2001.
 .50 Caliber Muzzleloading Rifle with Barrel length: 28 inches; 
 .50 caliber sabot with .430" 240 grain bullet (common deer hunting projectile);
 Volume equivalent of 100 grains of FFg (common recommended deer hunting charge):
                            Muzzle        
 Powder type                Velocity      Pressure
 Black Powder Goex FFg      1563 fps       8,400 PSI 
 Black Powder Elephant FFg  1555 fps       9,500 PSI
 Substitute Pyrodex RS      1559 fps      11,200 PSI
 Substitute Pyrodex Select  1673 fps      10,000 PSI

Lyman makes bullets and tested the common brands of powder with their bullets with these results. They have no pony in the powder race, in other words. The book lists literally hundreds of load/bullet combinations, but this bullet and charge are commonly recommended for and by deer hunters, and makes a reasonable comparison for the four powders. The slightly higher velocity, but significantly lower pressure of the Goex BP and the Pyrdodex Select appear to be an anomoly; however, they reflect lower pressure but longer burn time. Naaman Brown (talk) 15:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

What about corrosion? After combustion, potassium perchlorate gives potassium chloride which is very corrosive to metals... --FK1954 (talk) 17:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The cleaning regimen for Pyrodex is similar to that for cartridge ammunition using the old-fashioned corrosive primers which also contained potassiium chlorate: water to dissolve and remove the chloride salts from the barrel and exposed metal surfaces of the action, followed by oiling (and periodic inspection). (This is also common practice when using traditional black powder.) Naaman Brown (talk) 15:43, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

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The article appears to focus on Pyrodex and may need to be changed to reflect this. otherwise, including more information on black powder substitutes other than Pyrodex may be needed Rotarypants (talk) 15:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

https://alliantpowder.com/products/powder/blackmz.aspx perhaps? GiggyMantis (talk) 12:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC)