Talk:Bicorn and Chichevache

Merger proposal

I propose that this article and Bicorn (monster) be merged into a combined article "Bicorn and Chichevache" (or "Bicorne and Chichevache"), similar to the superior French WP article Bigorne et Chicheface. For obvious reasons, the two creatures are seldom treated apart from each other; and as they stand, neither article treats fully what is obviously the locus classicus for the appearance of them in English literature—Lydgate's Bycorne and Chychevache. In addition, the Bicorn article has been the repository for much unsourced and dubious information (as well as dubious images), and combining the articles would allow for a sourced exposition that could more easily be monitored for the addition of unreliable material. Deor (talk) 14:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I am not seeing a resemblance between the Bicorn and the Chichevache. Some depictions of Bicorns have them as two-horned unicorns and we haven't found an official source for them yet. Rtkat3 (talk0 1:24, December 2 2013 (UTC)

I suggest that you read the French article, for a start. The topic here is not the modern pop-culture appearances of something that various creators have chosen to call a bicorn; it's the two "beasts" in medieval satire, which belong together, as they are mirror images of each other. Deor (talk) 18:56, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I'd not merge them. The difference is that a Chichevache is an actual mythological creature, while the bicorn was a variation of unicorn made up by J.K. Rowling. There is no evidence that I am aware of that Rowling intended these two creatures to be synonymous. --pluma♫ ♯ 05:44, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The bicorn that's the subject of our article was not "made up by J.K. Rowling". Have you read the French article or noted the reference to Lydgate's poem in my original post above? The two beasts are not "synonymous", but they do occur together in literature. Mention of Rowling's use of the term bicorn (apparently entirely unrelated to the traditional legendary beast) might be mentioned in a "popular culture" section or whatever, but it obviously shouldn't be the focus of Bicorn (monster) or of this discussion. Deor (talk) 08:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

• Support - Bicorn (monster) badly needs improvement either way. Johnbod (talk) 12:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Support ; Regardless of what's done, I'd suggest changing (monster) to something less crude, perhaps (Mythology) Luvere (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Chichevache's demise

I imagine it would go extinct quite fast if it's dietary preference is scarce. Booger-mike (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm also unsure what it's supposed to be. Booger-mike (talk) 18:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)