Talk:Battle of Appomattox Station/GA1

Latest comment: 15 years ago by H1nkles in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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I'll be happy to review this article for GAC. H1nkles (talk) 17:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

GA Review Philosophy edit

When I do an article review I like to provide a Heading-by-Heading breakdown of suggestions for how to make the article better. It is done in good faith as a means to improve the article. It does not necessarily mean that the article is not GA quality, or that the issues listed are keeping it from GA approval. I also undertake minor grammatical and prose edits. After I finish this part of the review I will look at the over arching quality of the article in light of the GA criteria and make my determination as to the overall quality of the article.

GA Checklist edit

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:  
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:  
    photo clean up tag was an MOS issue
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:  
    There was at least one unsourced reference.
    B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):  
    C. It contains no original research:  
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:  
    Also issues with comprehensiveness
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):  
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:  
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:  
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:  
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
    Please see GA review for all issues.


Regarding Lead edit

  • In your last paragraph you identify Custer's forces as the Army of the Potomac, this is an overstatement, it was a portion of the army but by no means the entire army. Consider clarifying.
  • There is a clean up tag on the photo requesting more information on the author of the painting. Please take a look at this.
  • You don't mention in the Lead the ultimate result of the battle, the surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia. H1nkles (talk) 17:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Background edit

  • Pretty thin, I don't see any connection between what is mentioned in the background and the events that lead to the battle in question. Please expand this section to include more information linking what is already mentioned in this section to the action at Appmoattox Station. H1nkles (talk) 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Prelude edit

  • The final paragraph is an actual description of the battle, it probably better belongs in the Battle section. H1nkles (talk) 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Preparations for battle edit

  • Do you know which general was ordered to set up the line south of Appomattox court house?
  • Per WP:ACCESS the photo is supposed to fit within the section it is referring to. Lee's photo is too big and spills over into the section before it. Consider resizing the photo to comply with MOS.
  • You mention only the Confederate preparations for battle, what about the Union side? H1nkles (talk) 18:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Battle and Retreat edit

  • You say perhaps 100 confederate soldiers died but before you indicate the number will never be known. Is the 100 dead conjecture? Your source (#15) does not mention any number of confederate dead. The context makes it sound like this number is a complete guess, please remove this or cite it.
  • this sentence doesn't make sense, "The Battle of Appomattox Station commenced four hours[18] after it had started and lasted until dusk with varying intensity". A battle can't commence four hours after it started. Commenced and started are synonymns. Please reword. H1nkles (talk) 18:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Aftermath edit

  • I note a [citation needed] template that will need to be addressed in this section.
  • It also is very sparse, did this battle have any career impact on Custer? Is there anything else that could be added here? H1nkles (talk) 18:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Notes and References edit

  • they look fine links check out ok.

Overall Review edit

  • You have some issues with comprehensiveness, there's more that can be added, which I've mentioned above.
  • Check the photo issues that I mentioned above w/ clean up tag and MOS compliance.
  • I'll put the article on hold for a week to let you have time to consider what I've said here. Thanks for your hard work. H1nkles (talk) 19:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

GA Fail edit

Since no work has been done in the time that the article has been on hold I am forced to fail it at this time. Please work on my suggestions and renominate. H1nkles (talk) 17:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Reply