Talk:Balderton
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History
editI have added brief details of two C14 petitions. Crococolana 15:04, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I have added some more information about Balderton from history and have started a bibliography.Crococolana 14:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Schools
editI have added more details about education in Balderton. Crococolana 15:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
== Balderton New Hall ==
I have added a section on the new hall/mental hospital.Crococolana 22:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Administration
editI have added a reference to the parish council and its website.Crococolana 21:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I have restored the pronunciation bollerton. This was how the name was said when I was a boy there and I still hear it in my family who live there. I have never heard the pronunciation bulderton but presumably this is a new development. The alternative for the first vowel rhymed with doll. A pronunciation rhyming it with or (borlderton) was heard little and was not local.Crococolana (talk) 23:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, unless you can source this verifiably beyond your own family, it fails WP:OR. Frickative (talk) 21:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC
See here where the use of bollerton is confirmed on a Lincolnshire genealogy site, 3 April 2004, in a discussion about Ramper http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ENG-LINCSGEN/2004-04/1081022374 Crococolana (talk) 13:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'd suggest reading WP:VER, which this source still doesn't meet by a long shot unfortunately. Forum posts, posts on blogs, that sort of thing, just aren't classed as verifiable sources by Wikipedia. Frickative (talk) 17:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Look at the wikipedia articles for Launceston, Cornwall; Ilkeston, Derbyshire; and Meopham, Kent. I have chosen them at random and all give pronunciations unattested in approved print. Consistency is required. Are all approved-print-unattested pronunciations to be removed from wikipedia? Crococolana (talk) 15:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is no argument for inclusion. It might be different were 'Bollerton' actually how the village name was pronounced, but I seem to recall mentioning in an edit summary that having lived there for 20 years, not a single person had ever pronounced it that way. Frickative (talk) 16:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The pronunciation of many places is not recorded in printed books and thus wikipedia by that standard must exclude much that is known. A printed book is not likely to be more accurate than the views of people on the ground. It is odd that a cyber encyclopedia should disvalue cyber knowledge over printed knowledge.
I lived in Balderton in the 40s and 50s, many of my family still do. bollerton is a pronunciation I am familiar with and heard and hear. You say "were 'bollerton' actually how the village name was pronounced": well, it was and is by some villagers, me included.Crococolana (talk) 22:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Look, I certainly didn't make the rules, I've just tried and tried again to explain them. Drop a message over at the talkpage of WP:OR and see what they have to say, because I can almost guarantee that it won't be in favour of inclusion. Frickative 14:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Subdivision
editThis whole article needs rewriting to take into account the creation of the new parish of Fernwood, effectively lopping the whole Balderton South Ward off the parishSkinsmoke (talk) 22:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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