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Spain

From years past I can vaguely remember something about foreign motorists driving in Spain, and perhaps other countries, being automatically detained by police in the event of a collision where there was the possibility that a driving offence had been committed (or something... I really don't remember the details) unless they could produce a bail bond, which was not a sum of money but something to do with a document issued by your insurance company... or something. I appreciate that this is vague, but since "bail bond" redirects to this article, can anyone who knows what I might be remembering add something about these bail bonds to the article, or elsewhere if appropriate (in which case bail bond might need to become a disambig)? Thanks. Old Man of Storr (talk) 22:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

It was the case - but no longer.[1]--Rumping (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Bail Bondsh

Is this Gregory Stevens? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.151.88 (talk) 01:30, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

If you're sentenced and you're in prison, you just have your time to do. Bail is something you can post while you're still fighting your case. Korisnik User Being (talk) 03:32, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

bail bond company

hi. i am trying to start a bail bonds company in Ga. I was wondering do i have to have money in the bank?or can i go through a insurance company. thank you

David Sommer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.142.36 (talk) 09:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

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Literally half of this article needs citations

Why is this article even public if it has no sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.200.33 (talk) 08:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hi - Bail.net seems to be a spam article, it should be removed

Hi - don't know much about the topic, but thought I'd flag a curio - the 'reference' section cites reference to a paper, but gives no indication of what the reference is about. If it's a reference to back up a statement, it should be a footnote type reference --Mortice 00:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi - As immediate past secretary of the Ohio Bail Agents Association (obaa.org) [2] & active member of Professional Bail Agents of the U.S. (pbus.com) [3] I am quite knowledgeable on the subject "bail bondsman". For instance in this article, this sentence is incorrect, "In jurisdictions where the 10% cash alternative is available, the deposit is usually returned if the case is concluded without violation of the conditions of bail." In every case, the courts take the majority of the 10% they charge to pay court costs & fines where levied. Some clerks of court require the 10% cash depositor to sign a form stating they waive their claim on their funds, which is an illegal document in Ohio. The courts that employ 10% cash alternatives expect the defendant to fail to appear before the court (FTA) & abscond [4]. The court may issue a FTA bench warrant for arrest for the defendant. Many courts use this as a means to accrue cash without administering justice. It has become a make work program for courts & "pretrial services". For instance, in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland Ohio) there are over 100K active FTA warrants. There would be more active FTA warrants, except they have expired due to the statute of limitations. An administrator sets the "pickup radius" for each FTA warrant. This means each FTA warrant has authority in an established radius. If the defendant is located: in this court on another charge, in this city, in this county, in this county & adjacent counties, in the entire state, in this state & surrounding states, in the U.S., in the world. No police officer, pretrial release person, sheriff, constable, etc. actively seeks any defendant on a FTA warrant associated with 10% cash alternatives. The court eventually nullifies the defendant's driver's license. The defendant doesn't necessarily realize their driver's license is invalid & may continue to drive & pay vehicle insurance premiums. If a defendant is stopped by a police officer for another moving vehicle violation, & the police officer discovers the existence of a FTA warrant, the defendant may be arrested for the FTA warrant. The defendant may also be cited for driving under suspension (DUS). If the defendant is outside the FTA warrant's pickup radius, the defendant is released from the FTA warrant at this time. If there is another valid driver in the vehicle, the vehicle may be released to that valid driver. If there isn't a valid driver in the vehicle, the vehicle will be impounded. The most interesting aspect of this is, the vehicle insurance is invalid when the driver is driving under suspension! In Cleveland Ohio, one in five drivers do not have valid driver's licenses & do not have valid vehicle insurance even if they have paid all the necessary vehicle insurance premiums! Although a novice editor, I will strive to provide appropriate supporting citations & correct the one sentence I cited at the beginning of this paragraph, if one or more of you experienced editors will communicate with me. Sponsion (talk) 15:53, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi - If no editor objects, I will soon modify the article:

In many cases, the courts take the majority of the 10% they charge to pay court costs & fines where levied. Some clerks of court require the 10% cash depositor to sign a form stating they waive their legal claim on their funds before the defendant is released.

Bail is to assure the defendant returns for all court ordered appearances, the defendant surrenders himself for incarceration if court ordered. Bail is not to enrich the court system.

I will identify and include viable references to the above sentences before I modify the article. --Sponsion (talk) 10:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi - The article states:

The use of surety bonds has increased over the last decade, even as various agencies have sought to find alternatives. The efficacy of both measures is controversial.[2]

However, the reference [2] states:

Compared to release on recognizance, defendants on financial release were more likely to make all scheduled court appearances. Defendants released on an unsecured bond or as part of an emergency release were most likely to have a bench warrant issued because they failed to appear in court.

Therefore, unless an editor objects, I will soon modify the article to include this further information from reference [2]. This should clarify the disparity in failure to appear rates (FTA) between defendants on financial release and defendants released on an unsecured bond. --Sponsion (talk) 10:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

.....For instance in this article, this sentence is incorrect, "In jurisdictions where the 10% cash alternative is available, the deposit is usually returned if the case is concluded without violation of the conditions of bail." In every case, the courts take the majority of the 10% they charge to pay court costs & fines where levied..... i'm afraid i don't really see how that sentence is incorrect. it seems the defendant does get all of his money back, but corrected for the amount he now owes to the court. (which to me seems like it saves a lot of money for the courts because they won't have to spent money trying to collect fines from the kind of people who think that not showing up in court means they won't have to pay for their misdeeds) but please correct me if i'm wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.34.218.126 (talk) 13:15, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

NPR series

NPR is running some stories about bail practices in the US. It would be interesting to incorporate some of the facts they have discovered. One thing that I found particularly interesting is that bondsmen don't typically pay the full bail to the court. In the case of Lubbock, I think they said it was like 5%. So the bondsman makes money whether or not the defendant shows up. Seemed notable to me, but I don't know how to work it into the article. --69.151.237.226 (talk) 01:43, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

if a bailbonds man revoke a bail do you still have to pay the rmaining balince if he has gotten his money back —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.71.101.110 (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)