Talk:Anti-clericalism/Archives/2010/February
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pov?
This article is just idiotic religious propagandistic shit. Wikipedia isn't great.
POV
This article is not balanced - it is Catholic propaganda that attempts to present all defenders of Clericism as martyrs and all critics of it as murderers. Anti-clericism was an integral part of the philosophy of the Age of Enlightenment and was a response to the abuse of religious institutions by monarchs and tyrants to protect their power and oppose the spread of human rights. A balanced article would contain references to the anti-clerical writings of Enlightenment philosophers (and religious denominations) in a range of nations including Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin in America, Denis Diderot, Baron d'Holbach and Voltaire in France and the Deists, Quakers and Congregationalists in Britain. --Tediouspedant (talk) 20:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
- Most of the persecutors had an axe to grind as well, Henry VIII, Robespierre, Marat, Danton, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, various Mexican tyrants. Enlightened? Proponents of "human rights?" France was a catastrophe, ultimately resulting in a world war (Napoleonic Wars).
- You mention the US, where colonists, who had governed themselves, fought to get that right back. But not in most other places. And the US did not scapegoat clerics.
- Pre-Keynes, busts were caused by whatever establishment was in power, collecting wealth to itself, which all government does normally. This resulted in a depression where sometimes, someone threw out the "bad guys" (people in power), then installed themselves, resulting in the same thing a few decades down the road. Most people murdered were guilty of nothing except existing and doing what they thought was right. Student7 (talk) 23:55, 23 February 2010 (UTC)