Talk:Ann Lee/Archive 1

Archive 1

Not persecuted "by Quakers"

I removed wording from a previous verison of this article that said Ann Lee and the Shakers emigrated from England due to persecution by Quakers. They were indeed persecuted: constables disrupted their meetings, fined and imprisoned them, but at that time, those officials would have been Anglicans, not Quakers. (Early Shakers, or "The Wardley Society") were a break-away group from Quakers. There was disagreement, and it is quite possible that Quakers censured John and Jane Wardley, but they did not have the power to persecute them in the ways that led to their emigration from England.) One of several sources: "Ann the Word: The Story of Ann Lee, Female Meessiah, Mother of the Shakers, the Woman Clothed with the Sun" by Richard Francis (New York: Arcade Publishing, 2001). Quakerinfo 17:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Ann Lee's 'Christ' claim?

Per the 'Question' section above, I think more research is needed before the Wiki-linked List for List of people who have claimed to be Jesus is added to this article. It is my understanding that Ann Lee did not actually claim that she was Jesus the Christ, her assertion seems to differ. According to Nardi Reeder Campion's book Mother Ann Lee: morning star of the Shakers Ann Lee's claims and the Shaker writings about her were as follows:

"Ann claimed that Jesus had conveyed to her astonishing information. He revealed that she was his anointed successor on earth."(Page 35)

"Ann Lee's mystical transformation did not cause her to lose touch with the real world, not did it alienate her from her true identity."(Page 36)

"Years later, that devout nineteenth-century Shaker Aurelia Mace explained why it was possible for the Shakers to accept Ann Lee's incredible title of female Christ: "To us God is Father and Mother and has been from the beginning. Jesus was an inspired man. Ann Lee was an inspired woman. Inasmuch as Jesus became the Christ, so may all be in possession of the same spirit."(Page 36)

"In other words, spiritual perfection is a possibility open to all seekers after God's truth. Ann Lee was not Christ, no did she claim to be. She was, rather, completely absorbed into his spirit and therefore became his female counterpart."(Pages 36-37)

I am not sure that reliable sources support the assertion that Ann Lee actually claimed to be Jesus of Nazareth. Shearonink (talk) 18:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Picture is NOT Ann Lee

She lived before photography. The picture is of Eldress Anna White. http://www.pinterest.com/pin/328129522820692811/ also: http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html (thanks to T.C. Quinn for this H/T) Jtbagwelljr (talk) 17:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, questioned that it looked like photography but found similar images also attributed to Ann Lee. Thanks for the clarification!--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:18, 28 March 2014 (UTC)