Talk:AmaBhungane

Latest comment: 2 years ago by DavidMCEddy in topic change capitalization?

What's in a name? edit

The founders of amaBhungane have claimed that the name means "dung beetle" in isiZulu. However, on 2018-08-21 Google Translate rendered it as "butterfly".

I see three possibilities:

  1. Google translate is wrong.
  2. The founders of amaBhungane are wrong.
  3. The same word is used for both "dung beetle" and "butterfly", perhaps in different local dialects of isiZulu.

What might be done to obtain a more authoritative rendering of this word in isiZulu? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 21:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Balance / Unbalanced edit

@Xevus11: @TAnthony: The discussion of Template:Unbalanced, which Xevus11 added to this article on 2018-08-21 as {{Balance|date=August 2018}} and which TAnthony changed to {{Unbalanced|date=August 2018}} on 2019-09-25T04:02 says, "Drive-by tagging is strongly discouraged. The editor who adds the tag should discuss concerns on the talk page, pointing to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies. In the absence of such a discussion, or where it remains unclear what the NPOV violation is, the tag may be removed by any editor."

Could you please explain what about this article in unbalanced?

Permit me to summarize my background in general and how I came to write the initial draft of this article:

  1. The only time I have spent in South Africa was attending Wikimania 2018 and staying for a couple of extra days, during which I found the offices of AmaBhungane and interviewed one of the founders, who allowed me to take the photo that accompanies this article and gave me the citations I included. I am a citizen of the United States, having spent most of my life there.
  2. I heard about AmaBhungane from a South African attending a conference organized by the Institute for Nonprofit News (INN) in June 2018.
  3. I had heard concerns expressed that Wikipedia focuses excessively on the developed world, and better coverage of developing countries (like South Africa) is needed.

Combining the information I got from the INN conference with the concern about uneven coverage of the developed world and the free time I had scheduled in Cape Town, I was inspired to do the research summarized in this article.

If you have information indicating the information in this article is not accurate or is not a balanced summary of who AmaBhungane is and what they have accomplished, please say so, preferably providing references to credible sources -- and please modify the article as seems appropriate.

Based on this I am removing the {{Unbalanced|date=August 2018}} flag. If you wish to restore it, please provide detailed rationale for restoring it. However, I would prefer -- and I believe readers would prefer -- that if you have evidence that this article is unbalanced, then it would seem that such evidence should be cited in the article with text written from a neutral point of view designed to at least partially correct the alleged lack of balance.

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 04:53, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi, AWB automatically changed the redirect {{Balance}} to the actual template name {{Unbalanced}} during my run correcting deprecated citation template parameters. I have no opinion about the validity of the tag in this article. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 15:29, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
@TAnthony: Thanks for developing and deploying that bot. DavidMCEddy (talk) 18:07, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

change capitalization? edit

The organization "AmaBhungane" actually spells their name WITHOUT an initial capital, as "amaBhugane".

Might anyone object if I changed the name to accord with their usage?

I should have done it when I created the article. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 22:43, 6 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I just tried it, and the software would NOT let me do it. DavidMCEddy (talk) 15:18, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply