Talk:1916–1917 northern Minnesota lumber strike/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mujinga (talk · contribs) 13:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi JJonahJackalope, I'll take this article for review as part of the August 2023 GAN Backlog Drive.

Thanks for nominating this article, I don't know as much about the Wobblies as I feel I should do and I thought somehow they were mainly an urban thing so it was fascinating to read about lumberjacks, miners and mill workers mobilising. @JJonahJackalope: I've left comments below and will put the article on hold for a week in order for you to make answers - if you need longer that's not a problem as long as we keep in communication about it. In fact, I'll probably be away most of next week although my plans haven't firmed up yet Mujinga (talk) 15:21, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

copyvio check

• earwig check throws up mainly names but there's a bit of close paraphrasing with the Witek source - "the union claimed a partial victory", "up to 1,000 of the mill's 1,200 workers went on strike" vs "an estimated 1000 of the 1200 workers went on strike", "a "flying squad" of about a dozen men to travel to the logging camps throughout the area to spread the word of the strike to the AWO job delegates" versus " “Flying squads” were organized to spread word of the strike to all the logging camps in the region", "an end to union suppression" - I think this can be resolved quite easily by rephrasing.
  • Rephrased several sentences.

spotchecks & referencing

• on this version

• spotcheck3: Despite the strike ending without a labor contract in place between the miners and the mining companies on the range, many of the companies began instituting changes to address the causes of the strike, such as increased pay and an eight-hour workday.[3] -ok

• spotcheck6: and in late 1916, a significant number of lumberjacks had been involved in the miners' strike and were subsequently blacklisted by those companies.[6] - pdf link doesn't work, jstor link still valid - ok

• spotcheck12: In 1914, two state investigators stated in a report after visiting a camp, "Both of us regretted that we did not have the authority to order all the men out of the camp and burn the place to the ground".[12] - ok

• spotcheck19: In one case, two of the men was given a $100 fine or 60 days of hard labor for calling strikebreakers "scabs".[19] - bit off - source says "One Wobbly, Leo Ahlgren, was sentenced to pay a fine of $100 or to serve 90 days on the work farm for "intimidating" an unidentified complainant with the statement, "You better not go to work." Two others were fined $100 or given 60 days for taking part "in a disturbance of the public peace by speaking . . . the following words (sic), to wit, 'Scab'.""
  • Edited this statement to more accurately reflect the charge.

• spotcheck1: While the lumberjacks demanded a $40 per month minimum wage, the companies instead instituted a $45 minimum monthly wage.[1]

images

• images are appropriately licensed and relevant
• would be great if you could add alt descriptions per MOS:ACCIM
• some images have fixed sizes eg "309x309px" - a better default would be to use "thumb", but if you want to keep a pic a certain size that's also fine

article status

• article is broad, neutral and focused. it is stable. references are well laid out and from reliable sources.

prose

• "and at its peak it involved about several thousand miners," - "about" seems redundant
  • Removed "about".
• " and many worked only 6 days per week" - what's "only" doing here? as in it makes me not sure what the sentence is trying to say
  • Previously, it was stated that many of the Minnesota workers worked 7-day weeks, so the "only" was used to highlight the difference between the two work-weeks. I have removed it, though, since it seems a bit superfluous.
• "Additionally, Sheriff Meining deputized Rogers and placed him in charge of the deputized group.[19]" - reads a bit funny becuase of 2xdeputized
  • Rephrased to make it sound better.
• "several hundred strikers began to picket outside that main gates to the Virginia and Rainy Lake Lumber Company plant" - I think "that" is a typo
  • Yeah, my bad, changed it to "the".
• "over 1,000 came from 6 camps operated by the Virginia and Rainy Lake Lumber Company, while another thousand came from 9 camps " - to be consistent, "thousand" should be 1,000
  • Done.
• " the industry in central Minnesota was relatively unfazed by the strike" - unfazed seems a strange word choice?
  • Changed to "untroubled".
• "In one case, two of the men was given a $100 fine or 60 days of hard labor for calling strikebreakers "scabs" " - this has got a bit garbled per mention above
  • Edited it as noted above.
• note1 needs a citation
  • Added references to Note 1.
• lead - good job

Mujinga, I wanted to reach out to let you know that I have made some edits to the article to address some of the points you made in your review. Sorry for the late reply, but thanks again for initiating this review, and if you have any further questions, comments, or concerns, please let me know. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 20:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Great will take a look in couple of days, cheers Mujinga (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

I'd still suggest the image edits but that's not a pass/fail issue. Congrats on the good article and keep 'em coming! Mujinga (talk) 11:52, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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