Hermesmann v. Seyer

Hermesmann v. Seyer (State of Kansas ex rel. Hermesmann v. Seyer, 847 P.2d 1273 (Kan. 1993)),[1] was a precedent-setting Kansas, United States, case in which Colleen Hermesmann successfully argued that a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act committed by the woman.[2][3] The case was brought in her name by the then Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services.

Hermesmann v. Seyer
CourtSupreme Court of Kansas
Full case nameState of Kansas, ex rel., Colleen Hermesmann v. Shane Seyer, a minor, and Dan and Mary Seyer, his parents
Decided5 March 1993 (1993-03-05)
Citation(s)252 Kan. 646, 847 P.2d 1273 (Kan. 1993)
Case history
Prior action(s)State ex rel. Hermesmann v. Seyer (Kan. Dist. Ct. Shawnee County 1992)
Case opinions
Decision byRichard Winn Holmes


Hermesmann was a babysitter for Shane Seyer during 1987 and 1988. When Hermesmann was 16, she began a sexual relationship with Seyer who was 12 years old. When she was 17 and Seyer was 13, she became pregnant and their daughter was born in 1989. Criminal charges had been brought against Hermesmann by Shawnee County, Kansas, accusing her of "engaging in the act of sexual intercourse with a child under sixteen" whilst she herself was a juvenile.[2]: 448  In the event she stipulated as a juvenile offender to "contributing to a child's misconduct" which is not a sexual offense.[2]: 448 

In 1991, the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services, in Hermesmann's name, took Seyer to court seeking child support. Hermesmann's criminal culpability was not addressed in this trial, as this was purely a civil court case. The Department also sought and was awarded $7,000, equivalent to $13,900 in 2021,[4] for its own costs.[5] However, in the later Supreme Court hearing, the Department stated it never had any intention of collecting its award.[6]

Kansas Supreme Court caseEdit

In 1993, the Kansas Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Seyer that he was not liable to pay for child support.[3] The court held that the admitted facts established that, because being under 16 he had been legally unable to consent to sex, a crime against him had been committed under statutory rape law, but that Seyer had actually given consent to the acts under civil law.[2][7] The court ruled that "at no time did Shane register any complaint to his parents about the sexual liaison with Colleen".[2] The court also ruled that a mother's potential culpability under criminal statutes was of no relevance in determining the father's child support liability in a civil action.[7][8] The court stated "The State's interest in requiring minor parents to support their children overrides the State's competing interest in protecting juveniles from improvident acts, even when such acts may include criminal activity on the part of the other parent".[9]

Precedents setEdit

The case established a precedent which has subsequently been used in the Kansas courts.[10] It is one of the earlier cases now cited in U.S. child-support guidelines which say that in every case that has addressed the issue the court has decided that an underage boy is liable for the support of his child even when the conception was the result of criminal conduct by the mother.[11]

In a 1997 case before the Florida District Court of Appeal, the court's decision cited Hermesmann, saying that the Kansas decision was taken even though the Kansas statute states "a person under 15 years of age is incapable of consent as a matter of law".[12] The court also remarked that "the Kansas court did not address the question of whether lack of actual consent (apart from the statutory definition) could form the basis of a defense to an action to establish paternity".[12] In this case also the question of whether actual non-consent might be a defense was not before the court.[12]


  1. ^ Hermesmann v. Seyer, 847 P.2d 1273 (Kan. 1993).
  2. ^ a b c d e Rowland, Debran (2004). The Boundaries of Her Body: The Troubling History of Women's Rights in America. Naperville, Illinois: Sphinx Publishing. pp. 448–449. ISBN 978-1-57248-368-2.
  3. ^ a b "Court Tells Youth to Support Child He Fathered at Age 13". The New York Times. 6 March 1993. Retrieved 9 June 2013.
  4. ^ 1634–1699: McCusker, J. J. (1997). How Much Is That in Real Money? A Historical Price Index for Use as a Deflator of Money Values in the Economy of the United States: Addenda et Corrigenda (PDF). American Antiquarian Society. 1700–1799: McCusker, J. J. (1992). How Much Is That in Real Money? A Historical Price Index for Use as a Deflator of Money Values in the Economy of the United States (PDF). American Antiquarian Society. 1800–present: Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. "Consumer Price Index (estimate) 1800–". Retrieved 16 April 2022.
  5. ^ "Court asked to rule whether 13-year-old owes child support". Lawrence Journal-World. Associated Press. 24 January 1993. Retrieved 21 July 2018.
  6. ^ Lewis, Myrisha S. (25 October 2012). "Making Sex the Same: Ending the Unfair Treatment of Males in Family Law" (PDF). Wisconsin Journal of Law, Gender & Society. 27: 257–280. Retrieved 9 June 2013.
  7. ^ a b "Teen Must Pay For Getting Sitter Pregnant". Deseret News. Associated Press. 6 March 1993.
  8. ^ "13-year-old is responsible for child support – Court". Lawrence Journal-World. 5 March 1993.
  9. ^ Cocca, Carolyn (2004). Jailbait: The Politics of Statutory Rape Laws in the United States. Albany: State University of New York Press. p. 88. ISBN 978-0-7914-5906-5.
  10. ^ "24 Kan. App. 2d 324 No. 76,971". Kansas Court of Appeal. Archived from the original on 9 March 2005.
  11. ^ Morgan, Laura W. (2012). Child Support Guidelines: Interpretation and Application (2nd ed.). New York: Wolters Kluwer. p. 8-130. ISBN 978-1-4548-0113-9.
  12. ^ a b c "DEPT. OF REV., BENNETT v. MILLER". Leagle, Inc. Retrieved 17 June 2013.