Talk:La Carcacha
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 8, 2023. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after seeing a broken car, A.B. Quintanilla proclaimed his desire to make the song "La Carcacha" about it? |
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 17:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a. (reference section):
- b. (citations to reliable sources):
- c. (OR):
- d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a. (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a. (major aspects):
- b. (focused):
- a. (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
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(Criteria marked are unassessed)
I will crack on with this today! --K. Peake 17:12, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
Infobox and lead edit
- Pipe EMI Latin to Capitol Latin in the infobox
- Replace hlist with bullet points per Template:Infobox song
- "a song that was recorded by American singer Selena for her third studio album" → "a song recorded by American singer Selena for her third studio album,"
- "It was written by" → "The song was written by"
- A. B. Quintanilla → A.B. Quintanilla with the wikilink
- Pipe melodies to Melody
- Reword the emphasized part per it being too repetitive with the body's wording
- ""La Carcacha" is a Tejano cumbia song that is emblematic of Selena's style," → "It is a Tejano cumbia song that is emblematic of Selena's typical style,"
- Pipe music critics to Music journalism
- Remove the release year of the song since that is not needed in the lead
- ""La Carcacha" has continued to receive" → "it has received" and mention ones this includes
- "in the Broadway musical" → "in the Broadway musical,"
- ""La Carcacha" triple platinum," → "it triple platinum," and make this the second sentence of the second para instead
Background and inspiration edit
- Change all mentions to A.B. and wikilink on the first instance
- Remove commas around Joe Ojeda
- Maybe the musical piece part could be simplified to him proclaiming he was inspired to compose by it?
- "he would pursue" → "he would pursue with"
- "A month later," → "A month after the hotel incident," or something similar per this being a new para
- I think a word more encyclopedic than "chagrin" should be used here
- Remove comma before Pete Astudillo
- "yet she remains unperturbed by" → "However, she lacks concern with" as a new sentence to avoid a run-on
Music and lyrics edit
- Audio sample looks good!
- The first para is slightly out of order; the introduction and countdown parts should be at the end instead
- "It features the characteristic hip-swaying" → "It features the characteristic danceable"
- Wikilink tempo to itself
- The melodies are not mentioned by the source
- Remove or replace Newsweek per WP:NEWSWEEK
- "The track bears a" → ""La Carcacha" harbors a"
- "for the Del Rio News Herald," → "for the Del Rio News-Herald," with the wikilink
- "melodic hook" which he believed" → "melodic hook", which he believed"
- The Burr ref needs to be re-invoked for the second sentence if that is from [14] instead of [15]
- Pipe melodies to Melody
- Remove the usage of ultimately because this adds nothing here
- Remove the Roiz lyrics praise since this is trivia
- "on "a junk car"" → "on "a clunker car"" per the source
- Remove the internal qualities sentence, as this is repetitive and adds nothing
- "or lack thereof. The song's lyrics championed the joys" → "or lack thereof, championing the joys"
- "and defends her partner" → "and defending her partner"
- "with billowing tailpipe smoke" start a new sentence here to avoid a run-on
- "Tejano music often suffered" → "Tejano music had often suffered"
- "writing for the Austin American-Statesman, compared its" → "for the Austin American-Statesman, compared the song's"
- Remove song after the year because speech marks imply this
- Wikilink Austin American-Statesman on the first instance instead
- "creates an auditory landscape" → "create an auditory landscape"
- "Selena's biographer, Joe Nick Patoski, noted that" → "Selena biographer Joe Nick Patoski noted that"
- Pipe call-and-response to Call and response
Commercial and critical performance edit
- Retitle to Reception per that being what both of these are types of
- "It made its debut on" → "It debuted on"
- "peaked at number sixteen on the" → "peaked at number 16 on the US" per MOS:NUM and to specify this is not Mexico
- "The song peaked at number 21" → "It peaked at number 21"
- Mention the date the certification was awarded and remove the "has", also should platinum really be capitalized?
- Pipe Houston Astrodome to Astrodome
- Pipe San Antonio Alamodome to Alamodome
- Remove overly obvious wikilinks on Miami and the Carribean
- "which compelled people to dance," → "which compelled them to dance,"
- "the closing number for her" → "the closing number for Selena's"
- "engaged from start to finish and" → "engaged throughout and"
- The source mentions "washing machine", but not the 1995 concert
- Add "the" before Los Dinos
- "of the planet.", according to" → "of the planet", according to" and re-invoke the ref because this sentence uses a direct quote
- "squeezebox instrumental break."" → "squeezebox instrumental break"." per MOS:QUOTE
- Pipe Monterrey, Mexico to Monterrey
Legacy and impact edit
- ""La Carcacha" helped increased" → "The song helped increase"
- ""La Carcacha" helped opened" → "The latter helped open"
- Start a new sentence at Michael Clark
- ""La Carcacha" was the inaugural song" → "the former was the inaugural song"
- Instead change the live medley sentence to writing that it was identified as a great offering for fans by Fernando Zamora of El Norte since it is jumbled at the moment
- Wikilink Chevrolet
- Pipe Los Angles Auto Show to LA Auto Show
- Add a comma after Selena Forever
- "deeming "La Carcacha" the quintessential" → "deeming it the quintessential"
- "Ana Barbara performed "La Carcacha" at the Selena ¡VIVE!" → "Ana Bárbara performed "La Carcacha" at the Selena ¡Vive!" with the wikilinks
- "writing for the Tuscon Citizen," → "writing for the Tucson Citizen," with the wikilink
- Remove the comma after Cuco
- None of the plagiarism info is sourced
Credits and personnel edit
- Chris Perez → Chris Pérez with the wikilink
Chart performance edit
- Retitle to Charts
- EFE should not be italicised
- Why are Latin Pop Digital Song Sales and the Mexico chart linked to a section here but neither are in prose?
Certifications edit
- Good
References edit
- Copyvio score looks fine at 38.3%!!!
Works cited edit
- Wikilink Austin American-Statesman on the first instance
- Wikilink El Siglo de Terron
- Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on the first instance instead
- Pipe The Odessa American to Odessa American
- Pipe The Star Tribune to Star Tribune
- Wikilink Fort Worth Star-Telegram
- La Nacion → La Nación with the wikilink
- Remove or replace Newsweek per WP:NEWSWEEK
- Pipe Scholastic Library Publishing to Scholastic Corporation
- Pipe Gale Research to Gale (publisher)
- Wikilink Corpus Christi Caller-Times
- Pipe The Monitor to The Monitor (Texas)
- Pipe The Chicago Sun-Times to Chicago Sun-Times
- Wikilink Del Rio News-Herald
- CNN en Espanol → CNN en Español with the wikilink
- Wikilink Tuscan Citizen
- Pipe Little Brown and Company to Little, Brown and Company
- Pipe EMI Latin to Capitol Latin
- Wikilink San Antonio Current
- Abilene Reporter News → Abilene Reporter-News with the wikilink
- Wikilink University of Minnesota Press
Final comments and verdict edit
- On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that went at a decent pace! --K. Peake 08:16, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Did you know nomination edit
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 22:33, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- ... that after seeing a broken car, A.B. Quintanilla proclaimed his desire to make the song "La Carcacha" about it? Source: Quintanilla, Selena (2002). Entre a Mi Mundo (Media notes). A.B. Quintanilla (producer), Suzette Quintanilla (spoken liner notes producer). EMI Latin.
ALT1: ... that the song "La Carcacha" played a pivotal role in making Selena popular in both the Tejano and Mexican music industry? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/813129941/? , San-Juan, Rocio (December 1992). "Selena y Los Dinos: La Revelacion del '92". Norteña Musical (23). Entro fuerte y con el pie derecho cantando su "Carcacha", cancion que le dio el exito definintivo entre el publico Mexicano.- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of British parliamentarians who died in the First World War
Improved to Good Article status by AJona1992 (talk) and Kyle Peake (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 19:10, 24 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/La Carcacha; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Article was promoted to GA within a week of promotion. Long enough and plenty well-cited, no close paraphrasing detected. Approve ALT0 as more interesting; ALT1 is also interesting but I think a fact like that needs a citation with more retrospective distance than 1992. DigitalIceAge (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2023 (UTC)