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• The coverage of Bahamut0013 is rather abrupt. Per WT:AC/N, he has already provided valuable service to the subcommittee, and is not flippantly absent. Re the automated message on my talk: no objections to the coverage of me, obviously. AGK [•] 21:01, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
  • I hurriedly expanded it (because it was mea culpa), although that led to the comments below. - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 09:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
    • Damned either way: it's a sign that you did a good job, or a very bad one. AGK [•] 10:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
• "It is not known when Bahamut, a former US marine who began his term serving on the subcommittee in April, might return to regular editing." This is in fact hideously incorrect: there is no such thing as a "former" Marine! It is one of the ten commandments of the US Marine Corps: "Once a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine." I have taken the liberty of fixing the mistake, but in future please, PLEASE make a greater effort to check these little facts before publishing. :) TomStar81 (Talk) 04:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

• I agree that "former US marine" is incorrect, but changing it to "a US marine" implies to the general public unfamiliar with USMC traditions that he is still on active duty. I changed it to "formerly active US marine." Is that acceptable wording? Guy Macon (talk) 05:06, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

• An active marine until 2009? (or whenever it was) Tony (talk) 05:07, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks all. Fact checking priority is given to Wikipedia-related facts, rather than tangential factoids. Nonetheless, it would be nice to get these things right (I will remember this forever!). - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 09:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not sure to what extent 'real life stress' has to do with Bahamut's inactivity, and it should be noted that only checkuser and oversight permissions were removed - he remains an administrator. And keep in mind that he held these permissions only by virtue of his being a sitting member of the Audit Subcommittee, and it is standard operating procedure to withdraw any advanced permissions that were not previously held upon the conclusion of community members' term on the subcommittee. –xeno^talk 13:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

• I'd prefer that none of the information relating to Bahamut13's personal circumstances were included in the article, given that this page is linked to hundreds of others. The statement that Bahamut was replaced on the Audit Subcommittee because of inactivity on the project, and that his associated checkuser and oversight rights were withdrawn, should be sufficient. I'd still like to see the change made, actually, though I won't do it myself. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done. I hope Jarry thinks it's ok; left him a note. Tony (talk) 04:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
    • I should point out that the information on his life was drawn directly from his public blog, which is linked from his userpage. However, as I said to Tony when he queried this after NYB's message, there was probably a differing of opinion over the meaning of the word "stress" which gave the impression that the report writer knew more than was included on the blog (which he did not). If in doubt, cut, I guess. - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 09:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Editing one's own Signpost article?

I noticed on User:Cirt's talk page a statement that he should only edit the Signpost article about him in case of "grievous factual errors". Looking here I see that User:Jayen466, also a party to that case, edited somewhat more substantially: [1] I don't see any edit notice when I go to edit the page, nor any clear warning here. Is the bot right, or is it overwrought? Wnt (talk) 06:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Tony has set up a thread at WT:SIGNPOST. I shall reply there. - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 09:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Look at the diffs and somebody tell me again that this wasn't a dirty deal done to Cirt by a small circle of axe-grinders. Complete bullshit. Carrite (talk) 21:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Messed up if true. jp×g 21:04, 1 November 2021 (UTC)