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New Democratic Party of Canada former leader Audrey McLaughlin

New Democratic Party of Canada former leader Audrey McLaughlin is missing a photo, anyone have one? 65.92.180.131 (talk) 03:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Polish Socialism

Anyone available and willing to help me put together an article on socialism in Poland? I think a better title, however, would be Polish Socialism. Better captures the idea of socialism with a Polish inflexion (if you know a few bits about Polish nationalism/socialism, I think you'll agree).
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 18:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hoover Institution?

Why is the Hoover Institution a member of this project? It may make sense that the Hoover Institution Library and Archives is included, since it contains a lot of historical information about the Socialist and Communist movements, but I can't see any rationale for including the conservative Hoover Institution. Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 03:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The article "Socialism (Marxism)" is entirely based on an orthodox Marxist perspective of socialism

The Socialism (Marxism) article is entirely based upon an orthodox Marxist interpretation of socialism, it does not include revisionist Marxist perspective - specifically the revisionist interpretation of Marxism and Marxian socialism by Eduard Bernstein. I am concerned that the reason for this exclusive orthodox Marxist POV is either because of anti-revisionist Marxist and anti-Bernstein tendencies amongst those who developed that article; or because of ignorance of the revisionist Marxist perspective of Bernstein.--R-41 (talk) 00:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Social market economy

There is interest to expand the article. Anyone interested in sharing that project? --Pass3456 (talk) 10:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

2012 Third party Asian American infobox representatives open nomination period

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Third party Asian American infobox representative nominees. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:42, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

2012 Asian American representative approval period (Now until 18 December)

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Family Economics Wikipedia:USEP/Courses/Labor/Gender II: Economics of Gender (Gunseli Berik)

I have recently revise the family economics article. As a subject it has connections to the theories and ideas to Marx and Engels, it is also connected to their views on the structure of family under socialism. I have tried to include those subjects as much as possible, but I must admit I was only partially successful in finding contemporary Marxist literature. So I propose to include the subject to the wikiproject socialism. I also welcome any further revisions of the article by adding additional information on Marxist perspective of Family economicsKeremcantekin (talk) 20:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC) Kerem Cantekin (talk)

Jessie Stephen

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Jessie Stephen#Request for verification of a few points. -- Trevj (talk) 09:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Problems at Socialism article: definition of the term socialism and the use of the term "socialism" by the Third Way faction of social democrats

Problems with the definition of socialism and the use of the term "socialism" by Third Way social democrats that essentially involves the complete acceptance of capitalism while viewing "socialism" as delivering social welfare and social justice, is causing difficulties at the article Socialism. This definition of socialism cannot be identified as completely autonomous from the conventional socialism, because the principal Third Way ideologist Anthony Giddens has claimed that the Third Way is an extension of the social democratic revisionism of Eduard Bernstein and Karl Kautsky who were both recognized socialists in the conventional use of the term.

I have opened up an RfC there, and I believe that this specific issue of the Third Way deserves the attention of WikiProject Socialism. But also efforts to create a balanced and NPOV description of socialism in the intro are desperately needed. This will be highly difficult given the various factions of people identifying as socialists who have often disagreed with each other. But something needs to be done.--R-41 (talk) 05:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

The fact is that there are simply no countries which call themselves socialist which adhere to the rejection of individual ownership of corporate equity, and there haven't been for decades. Trying to maintain a purist definition in the Socialism introduction is why that article has overwhelmingly negative feedback from people who can't understand it. My attempt at simplification to reflect actual reality was rejected but discussion is ongoing. Neo Poz (talk) 20:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Adding "women's cooperatives in the developing world to the Cooperatives page

Hello all! I'm working on a class project to integrate the topic of women's cooperatives in the developing world into the existing Cooperatives page on Wikipedia. I am interested in adding it to the existing cooperatives page, as this will allow it to get the most traffic. My focus will be on the development of women's cooperatives, how they differ from the status quo, and how this trend has shifted over time. I was hoping to also highlight certain cooperatives that are doing well in specific countries, but wanted to integrate this instead of listing it out as a country-by-country list (which will never be fully exhausted). Since the Wikipedia Cooperatives Project falls within the Socialism Project, I wanted to get further views on my proposed expansion. I will draw sources from the International Labour Organization, the United Nations year of the Cooperative (2012), journals such as Gender and Development, as well as several books I have found on the topic. Any and all suggestions are welcome as I attempt to bring some attention to the importance and development of women's only cooperatives. Emmyloumanwill (talk) 06:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Need help at Law of value

Law of value needs some serious help. The article is composed mostly of original research, has trouble maintaining a neutral POV, and is way too long. We need some volunteers to help out with cleaning it up. I've gone through and tagged a lot of the original research, but the article is too overwhelming to work on alone. Also, we need some experts to come in, for help in highlighting trivial information that can be removed. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Updating and expanding article on Socialist Party USA

The article on the Socialist Party USA is fairly good article. It covers the basics of the history of the party, and it's presidential campaigns, but it explains very little of the party's platform and ideology. Obviously, this party is of very little importance due to it's size, and a hugely detailed description of its platform would be idiotic. However I am very concerned that to average American reader who is unfamiliar with socialism, the article doesn't much help. So I'm going to add some bare basics of the party's platform and where it stands on various issues.

Also, the "History" and "Founding" need to be fixed and merged together. The "History" section does not cover the party's history, rather it covers the development of the future party within the Socialist Party of America, so the title of the section is misleading. Furthermore, the section "Founding" covers all of the subsequent history of the party, not just on its creation. So I will merge the two into one section called "History" and divide it into subsections such as "Founding", and "1976-present" or something like that. Just basic improvements, cleaning up, and a slight amount of expansion. Also, I will likely create articles on their notable members, and attempt to expand the articles on members that already exist. If anyone would like to contribute to this project, help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all and have a great day!

Sbrianhicks (talk) 05:43, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Need help in clarifying which was the first democratically elected communist government

Another user had brought this up in the Kerala state article talk page. I've found some good sources (like this, and this) saying that the country San Marino had the first elected communist government in 1945 but at the same time, some others (like this one) say that the state of Kerala had the first in 1957. I'm convinced that the user is right and San Marino, not Kerala, was the first. I was planning to add this to all related articles, but thought I'll first ask other editor's views on this. Hope this is right and any replies will be much appreciated, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:06, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, apart from discussion what constitutes a truely democratic election, the problem is that the difference is that Kerala is not a sovereign state, which San Marino is. Communists had won other local or regional elections before Kerala 1957 (for example some regions in Italy directly after the war). The other issue is that in both the Kerala 1957 and San Marino cases the communists formed governments in coalition with other forces. It could be said that it was a 'communist-led' government, though. --Soman (talk) 11:44, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

"socialist elements" in nazism lead

There is an effort ongoing to put statement that Nazism had "socialist" elements to the lead of the Nazism article. Comments of fellow editors are welcome. Mpov (talk) 20:35, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

One Nation Labour

Hi, just wondering if someone would check this article for neutrality. It was created today by an anonymous user, and I have one or two small concerns about whether it's balanced. Here seems a good place to ask. Thanks. Paul MacDermott (talk) 22:17, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:History of the socialist movement in the United States#Requested move

A discussion for moving "History of the socialist movement in X" to "Socialism in X" , X = USA, Brazil, Canada, UK.

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UK Independence Party

Please see the discussion at Talk:UK Independence Party#Request for comment about whether academic sources describing the UK Independence Party as far-right are reliable. LordFixit (talk) 07:10, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Merge Marxist state theory articles

Should Marx's theory of the state (which would be moved to Marxist theory of the state to include Lenin's thought etc. from the other articles), dictatorship of the proletariat and dictatorship of the bourgeoisie be merged?

The discussion is here:Talk:Marx's theory of the state#Merge. Zozs (talk) 03:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Maoism

Maoism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is proposed to be renamed to Mao Zedong Thought, for the discussion, see Talk:Maoism -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:15, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Dialectical Materialism

I am wondering why the article on dialectical materialism has only been marked as being middle level importance in the socialism portal? This seems to me to be a high level importance in regards to socialism. Any thoughts? --xcuref1endx (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention

This is a notice about Category:Marxism articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 16:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Notability of socialist parties

Could I have some help at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Socialist Alternative (Malaysia). Another editor has said that socialist sources are not reliable for the purposes of this article and that it is not notable. Are national sections of socialist internationals notable in themselves and if so how do I justify this. Vahvistus (talk) 09:38, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

American Left

There is a discussion about whether to include the Green Party as part of the American Left, an article about socialism, communism, anarchism and syndicalism in the U.S. Contributions would be appreciated. (See: Talk:American Left#Green Party.) TFD (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Socialism in the United States sidebar

. There is confusion here about who should and should not be included in the people section. The criteria is largely based upon individual editors perspectives. Is there anyway to start getting some outside opinions on who should and should not be included? -Xcuref1endx (talk) 23:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

There are too many people to make it workable. Usually too it is best when using a well-defined set, such as presidents of the U.S. TFD (talk) 23:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

It has been proposed in the talk page that the section should be removed entirely. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 00:14, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Criticisms of Marxism

The Criticisms of Marxism page needs a heavy make-over. Its confusing and disoriented. Because of the complexity of the subject and the vastness of work dedicated to the topic, every POV pusher drops by and a inserts a quote that they had read from a questionable secondary source or drops large quotes from primary sources. The article is a quotefarm as of now, if anyone has the time to take a look at it, offer suggestions, or do a heavy make over. Please come on over and do it. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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Mike Jones (artist)

Draft:Mike Jones (artist) is about the creator of a wide variety of banners, murals, stained glass and other commemorative material for the Trades Unions movement in the UK, and other socialist organisations and museums. Son of the notable Jack Jones (trade unionist). The referencing is rather a mess, but I think there may be enough to establish notability, including an obituary on the website of The Guardian. Please take a look at the Draft and see if you can improve it. If unimproved, the Draft will be deleted in a few months. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

No takers? How about a Canadian-Ukrainian Jewish communist, socialist political cartoonist, photographer and landscape painter then? Draft:Josh Silburt

Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:00, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Éditions de l'Atelier

Feel free to expand this page with referenced info. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion of proposed merger of Cooperative Stock Market into Cooperative

The discussion for the proposed merger of the Cooperative Stock Market article into the Cooperative article is at Talk:Cooperative#Merge from Cooperative Stock Market. --Bejnar (talk) 21:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Help with linking

Greetings. I just created an article about Mary Docherty, a communist organizer in Scotland. I would prefer for the page not to remain an orphan for long, so any help with linking to it in relevant locations would be much appreciated. Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:06, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

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Revolutions of 1917–23

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Shall we create Category:Critics of socialism?

I don't see Category:Critics of socialism over at Category:Socialism. Should we not create it?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:05, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Not a good idea to have a category with 10s of thousands of possible entries. The whole purpose of categories is to enable navigation. TFD (talk) 22:51, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

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I've proposed splitting State-owned enterprise out into List of state-owned enterprises, as a significant bulk of the article simply lists SOEs by country. I would suggest that it is better to have the separate list article for companies, and then maintain this article as a prose discussion of SOEs, mentioning companies when relevant to the prose.

Please see discussion at State-owned enterprise#Split into list article. — Sasuke Sarutobi (talk) 11:27, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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State ownership isn't always social ownership

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Communism is not socialism

When I try to add WikiProject Communism to talkpages, it says, WikiProject Socialism. They are not the same thing at all. Communism is a totalitarian ideology; socialism is a bourgeois political compromise. One might argue that any implementation of communism in the political realm leads to bourgeois socialism, but still--I feel the redirect is not helpful, especially because of the difference between politics and intellectualism. Is there a way to fix this--would anyone like to split the projects? Please ping me when you reply. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:54, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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altleft

coined in 2015!!! coiner >>> https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/proposal-for-an-alternative-left/ https://altleft.com/ https://www.facebook.com/alternativeleft/ https://altleftjournal.wordpress.com/ reddit! >>> https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeLeft/ http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.co.il/2016/09/a-proposal-for-alt-left-political.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:117E:6D00:A0C4:8FED:ECAD:1157 (talk) 13:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Merge proposal

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RfC at Karl Marx

Should the categories Ashkenazi Jews, German people of Jewish descent, Jewish atheists, Jewish philosophers, Jewish socialists, Jewish sociologists be added to this article?Talk:Karl_Marx#RfC RolandR (talk) 11:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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Additional input needed...

...here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:27, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Help with a draft?

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to give some feedback on the article User:Jasonwujiaxi /Maoist Theory of National Struggle, which is currently in a student's userspace. One of my main concerns is that it's written in too much of an essay style, however I do want to make sure that this is a topic that could stand on its own apart from other Maoism related articles. Is anyone willing to give the student some feedback on the article's talk page? Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:25, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Maoist Theory of National Struggle

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Re-write of Socialist state

An editor is completely re-writing Socialist state... even the new first sentence changes the term's meaning. I want the guy to create a draft first so that others can make changes and comments before such a massive change, and I have stated as such on the talk page. He disagrees. I thought I'd bring this up here. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Everyone, if you have any questions at all, please ask me or write a question on the article talk page. I promise you I'll heed you're advice.. However, this is clearly the superior version; it has close to 100 references (they are all third party sources), the other one had around 30 (and most of them were primary sources).. --TIAYN (talk) 22:05, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

• Related to the above, an editor has suggested that socialist state and communist state should be merged. As this is a rehash of an old discussion it would benefit from attention from interested editors who haven't participated before. If you would like to contribute, please see the discussion. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 11:37, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

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All Havana Declaration, First Declaration of Havana, etc. references to them are redlinks, and this should be fixed.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:11, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

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Percy Glading

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There's a somewhat entrenched RfC ongoing at Talk:Council of People's Commissars of the Soviet Union, which shows signs of devolving into name-calling. A few more comments by people conversant with the general area would be welcome. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Lee J. Carter

Can someone take a look at the editing happening at Lee J. Carter? Looks like it's being targeted for white-washing his opponents' views. --98.113.56.97 (talk) 14:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Notice of RfC -- Veneuzlan politics

FYI. RfC available for comment:

Talk:Fabiana_Rosales#RfC_on_Juan_Guaido's_wife

This is related to Venezuelan politics.

--David Tornheim (talk) 09:56, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion about excessive use of red in templates

There is an ongoing discussion about excessive use of red in templates (Template:Communist parties, Template:Marxism–Leninism sidebar) at Portal talk:Communism#Template color discussion. --MarioGom (talk) 22:19, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

RfC of interest

The following RfC may be of interest to members of this group: [1]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:18, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

New project page

Ping to project members

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Hello! I'm working on an updated page for WikiProject Socialism. You can check it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/sandbox. It's still work in progress, but any feedback about both content and form would be great. Note the following:

• The design uses the new UI prototype for wikiprojects developed by WikiProject X. You can see some other examples here: WikiProject Medicine, WikiProject Molecular Biology, more.
• There is, at least, three missing sections: auto-generated task list (example), discussions summary (example) and a new-style members page (example).
• Wikiproject resources (templates, userbox) are still missing from the new design.
• Also changed the red flag image to the newer one, which was already used in Portal:Socialism. Unless there is any objection, this could be changed in the project template too.
• We now have a section for article alerts: Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Article alerts. This means that alerts will be delivered by a bot there, and not to this talk page. So you should watch the article alerts page too.

Best, --MarioGom (talk) 19:02, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

The new page is now ready to go live. A summary of changes:

• The introduction is now much shorter. Copied from WikiProject Medicine.
• The Participants page is deprecated in favor of the Members. This page is autogenerated. Anyone can join the project clicking on the blue Join WikiProject button on the right side.
• The old Tasks section is now completely gone, there are full alerts and resources sections. Both contain specific issues and are up to date.
• The old Announcements is replaced by Article alerts.
• There is a new Discussions section with a summary of recent discussions in any article related to the project.
• Guidelines and Templates are both summarized in the resources section.
• The new Statistics section includes tentative goals for article quality. These are based on WikiProject Video games.
• Recent changes and Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Showcase (Recognized content) sections are still present.
• Related Project includes links to sister projects in other languages, as well as an auto-generated list of overlapping projects.

--MarioGom (talk) 00:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done The new page is now live. --MarioGom (talk) 16:36, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Importance assessment of ideologies and currents

Hello! I have been reviewing importance assessments on various topics and I noticed that consistency of importance assessment could be improved for ideologies and currents related to the project. I'd like to propose a refinement of the criteria and a reassessment according to it:

• Top: Socialism and wide currents of particular historic importance (e.g. Utopian socialism, Social democracy, Communism and Marxism, Libertarian socialism).
• High: Most notable variants, such as Left communism, Marxism–Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism, Liberal socialism, Third Way, Arab socialism and Ba'athism or Juche.
• Mid: Less notable variants (e.g. Council communism, Libertarian Marxism) and variants that either refer to the set of policies of a specific Government or relevant only in a specific country and period of time (e.g. Stalinism, Titoism, Blairism, Deng Xiaoping Theory).
• Low Everything else.

Here's an outline of how this could be applied (omitting the first level, Socialism). Those that would be changed are in bold, with current importance grade on the left side and the new grade on the right side:

Outline

• Arab socialism High
  • Ba'athism Top ⇊ High
• Bundism Top ⇊ High
• Communism / Marxism Top
• Eco-socialism High
  • Left communism Top ⇊ High
    • Council communism High ⇊ Mid
  • Leninism High
    • Maoism High
      • Marxism–Leninism–Maoism High ⇊ Mid
    • Marxism–Leninism High
      • Stalinism Top ⇊ Mid
      • Socialism with Chinese characteristics High
        • Deng Xiaoping Theory Top ⇊ Mid
        • Xi Jinping Thought Top ⇊ Mid
    • Trotskyism Top ⇊ High
• Juche Mid ⇈ High
• Libertarian socialism Top
  • Libertarian Marxism Mid
  • Social anarchism Mid
• Social democracy Top
  • Third Way High
    • Blairism High ⇊ Mid
  • Liberal socialism Top ⇊ High
• Utopian socialism Mid ⇈ Top
  • Fourierism Mid
• Democratic socialism Top ⇊ High

For brevity, I just omitted lower importance articles such as Khrushchevism or Titoism. While Nikita Khrushchev or Josip Broz Tito articles are definitely high/top importance as biographies, the specific article on their political line probably isn't.

Any thoughts? Best, --MarioGom (talk) 20:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done for the listed articles. --MarioGom (talk) 17:15, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

RfC

Invitation to participate in an RfC at Talk:Antifa_(United_States)#RfC to add a new section ^Atsme _Talk 📧 04:21, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

New WikiProject Socialism invite template

I have created a new {{Socialism invite}} template to invite users to the project (thanks Enwebb for the advice). You can use it to invite users who are still not part of the project and have made recent contributions to articles within the project scope. Before doing so, please check that the user didn't receive an invitation already in their talk page. The invitation can be sent by adding a new section in the user talk page and adding {{subst:Socialism invite|~~~~}} Best, --MarioGom (talk) 10:54, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

New Barnstar

Hello, I've made a new Barnstar for this project. I didn't like the current one in use via The Workers' Barnstar since it's being shared with Communism, but I hope everyone likes the Socialist Barnstar. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 16:38, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you JudeccaXIII! I have added it to the resources section. I think it makes sense to have an alternative, non-communist, generic barnstar. Although I personally like the Workers' Barnstar ;-) --MarioGom (talk) 17:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

MarioGom, Glad you like it. I also made the Communist Barnstar. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 20:08, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Never mind, I'll have the communist Barnstar deleted since there isn't really a need/want for it. The Workers Barnstar seems efficient enough. Just message me if anyone wants to see the communist Barnstar return after deletion. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 03:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Socialism in Poland / Communism in Poland

There is an open discussion at Talk:Communism in Poland#Socialism in Poland that may be of interest for members of this project. The main question being whether the article Communism in Poland should be expanded to cover, more generally, Socialism in Poland. --MarioGom (talk) 15:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Reassessment: Serve the People (Norway)

User:AndersLeo: I have reassessed the Serve the People (Norway) article as requested ([2]). Rated it as C-Class. However, the article relies excessively on sources closely associated with the subject (tjen-folket.no). See Wikipedia:Identifying and using independent sources. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 20:48, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

User:MarioGom: Thanks for your feedback! It is difficult to include more varied sources when the citations refer to the official positions of the subject. There honestly aren't many relevant sources to cite when it comes to that... 19 of 39 citations are from Tjen Folket or SOS Rasisme official pages, and of those some are duplicates, meaning that fewer than 50% of the citations are from sources closely associated with the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndersLeo (talk • contribs) 15:15, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

New draft under construction

I've started a skeleton but it's not ready for primetime yet. Please consider pitching in at Draft of Anti-Communist Propaganda Simonm223 (talk) 15:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Tried to join the Project, without success

I click the button and get a set of pale blue squares which march across a white rectangle, over and over, without resolving anything. I'm running Vivaldi on a Mac (OSX 10.10.5 [Yosemite]) if that matters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangemike (talk • contribs) 00:56, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Orangemike! Indeed, there is a problem with the form. Hopefully it will be fixed soon. In the mean time, I have manually added you to the project. You can edit your membership details at User:Orangemike/WikiProjectCards/WikiProject Socialism. Any change will be reflected on Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Members. Sorry for the inconvenience and welcome to the project! --MarioGom (talk) 17:00, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

I thought I was a member of this wikiproject but I'm not on the list. Please add me. Simonm223 (talk) 15:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Simonm223:  Done Maybe you were a member and I might have missed you during the migration to the new membership system. Anyway, I've just added you. You can edit your profile here: User:Simonm223/WikiProjectCards/WikiProject Socialism. --MarioGom (talk) 15:42, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

The button should work now. Thanks to Galobtter for the fix! --MarioGom (talk) 08:09, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Hot articles: August 4th-10th

Now we have a hot articles section at Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Hot articles. You can watch that page for a weekly update of the top 10 most edited articles in the project. Here's this week report:

96 edits	Antifa (Germany)
61 edits	Antifa (United States)
60 edits	Republics of the Soviet Union
49 edits	Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party
46 edits	Noam Chomsky
41 edits	Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam
40 edits	Tuvan People's Republic
28 edits	All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam
27 edits	Anti-communism
26 edits	Pol Pot

--MarioGom (talk) 08:16, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Multiple requests and discussions of interest

There are multiple requests for move and other discussions open about naming of some articles about communism that might be of interest to members of this project:

• The discussion is somewhat centralizing at: Portal talk:Communism#Marxism–Leninism called Communism
• Previous and parallel discussions are, in creation order:
  • Talk:Communist state#Requested move 31 July 2019 (31 July, closed)
  • Talk:Crimes against humanity under Communist regimes#Requested move 31 July 2019 (31 July, closed)
  • Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#Requested move 31 July 2019 (31 July, closed)
  • Talk:History of communism#Marxism–Leninism called communism (August 3, open)
  • Talk:Crimes against humanity under Communist regimes#Requested move 14 August 2019 (14 August, open)
  • Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes#Requested move 14 August 2019 (14 August, open)
  • Talk:Communist state#Scope of the article (14 August, open)

Thanks. --MarioGom (talk) 13:18, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Automated tagging of communists and communist organizations

I have requested a bot to automate tagging of communists and communist organizations with {{WikiProject Socialism}}. The request is here: Wikipedia:Bot requests#Tag communists and communist organizations with Wikiproject Socialism. --MarioGom (talk) 19:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Here is the list of categories that would be used for tagging? Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Categories. Could anyone help reviewing it to check if they are appropriate of automated tagging? --MarioGom (talk) 09:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Project Newsletter

I started a draft for a Project Newsletter at Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Newsletter/Next issue. Sections are loosely inspired by The Signpost and The Right Stuff. If you have any feedback, proposals or want to contribute a section, please get in touch here. --MarioGom (talk) 14:08, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

I'll propose a more modest version with minimal content. That should be easier to get started and maintain periodicity. --MarioGom (talk) 09:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Given that I never got to publish it, I moved it to my user space: User:MarioGom/WikiProject Socialism Newsletter Draft. Hopefully we can resume this at some point. --MarioGom (talk) 14:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

New list of redlinks

I think a new list of redlinks should be created with all the concepts that still do not exist in the English Wikipedia.

It could be started with redwashing (es) or organic crisis (es).

Wikipedia:WikiProject Socialism/Redlinks/Concepts

--94.73.52.182 (talk) 18:20, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

DaddyCell: Thank you! Note that the list lacked a Wikidata query to generate it automatically. I have removed the Wikidata templates from the list, but I'll try to write a Wikidata query for it. It might be hard, since Wikidata properties are not really good in the space of political theory. --MarioGom (talk) 08:07, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Red Women in Red: September

Women in Red (WiR) is a wikiproject focused on reducing gender bias on Wikipedia by creating articles about notable women. During September will hold four month-long events: Law, Military history (World War II), writers and defunct countries. The Military history and defunct countries events might be of particular interest for members of WikiProject Socialism. The former includes socialist women who participated in World War II and resistance to Nazism, while the later includes special focus on the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, etc. I will be participating in all of them with an eye of the interest intersection between WiR and Socialism projects, and I invite other members to do the same. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 18:08, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Women in Red is hosting a three-month contest to create new stubs and de-stub current stubs about women. In our redlinks section you can find a list of missing articles for communist women, as well as a reduced version with women likely to be the most notable. If you are interested in a list of missing articles for different socialist currents or socialism in general, feel free to request it. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 09:07, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for Peer Review of article

I made extensive changes to the article on Marxist humanism today and would like a review if anyone has time. -- Hanshans23 (talk) 17:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for Peer Review of article

I requested a peer review of this article on Western Marxism in the Philosophy portal 18 months ago. It hasn't been reviewed since. I'd like to request a review in the Socialism portal. -- Hanshans23 (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Hanshans23, I posted a brief review at Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Peer review/Western Marxism. MarioGom (talk) 13:19, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

RE: Debate on creating a Chris Mullin disambiguation page (now it automatically leads to the basketball player)

Right now, the Chris Mullin page automatically leads to the basketball player - at the same time, there is a Chris Mullin (politician) - the one who led the fight to release the Birmingham Six and vote A Very British Coup (which was adapted to a TV series).

I've started a discussion on the talk page there, requesting to rename the basketball player page to Chris Mullin (basketball), and make the Chris Mullin page a disambiguation page with equal representation to both of them.

Arguments raised against my proposal:

• The basketball player has more views.

My main argument for the move:

• The basketball player gets most of his views from the US, while outside the US he's hardly known, and in Britain itself the politician-author Chris Mullin is much better known.

I invite you guys to take part in the discussion.

The link: Talk:Chris Mullin#Requested move 22 August_2020.

Thank you! Maxim.il89 (talk) 19:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

State units of BJP

Why is State units of the Bharatiya Janata Party listed as a top-importance article? The BJP doesn't seem to be particularly related to socialism. -Sophia (talk) 22:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Sophia wisdom, I've removed the banner. It doesn't seem to make sense. MarioGom (talk) 10:50, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Notice of RFC at Category:Communism

Your participation is invited at Category talk:Communism § Categorization of Communism, Totalitarianism, Authoritarianism. Thanks, Lev!vich 03:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Contributions needed

Contributors are needed at Draft:Mass_killings_under_capitalist_regimes.

Your help is urgently needed! Excutient^Talk 08:56, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Excutient: The creation of that article has been discussed repeatedly at Talk:Mass killings under communist regimes. I think the general consensus is that it would be considered original research. --MarioGom (talk) 14:11, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Kalaripayattu

Religious fanatics are taking ownership at Kalaripayattu and not allowing any edits deviating from their agenda. The worst part is it is pending-changes protected and they all are confirmed accounts who can make changes without scrutiny. None of them give proper explanation for reverting, and sometimes blatantly reverts multiple edits (edited with proper edit summary) without explanation. Two of them have COI as evident from their usernames (Kalari). Their main business is promoting their POV and highlighting Hinduism part, though Kalaripayattu do have rituals based on Hinduism, the art itself is not a "Hindu art", it just happened to have originated when only Hindu "religion" was prevalent in Kerala. It is a martial art practised by all religious communities, many of the masters are Muslims, the Christians even have a folk dance derived from Kalaripayattu. Some Hindu extremists are "making statements" by projecting Hinduism on an otherwise communally harmonious martial art. BTW, I am also a Hindu, but this is too much.

The first time my edit got reverted (see history here onward), I never thought it was religious agenda, but now it's becoming clearer, as User:Kalariwarrior changed "Indian mythology" to "Hindu mythology" (source says former), and User:Kalari Poothara's recent Hinduism promotion in lead, and as Outlander07 is now trying to re-insert Hinduism claims (not in the source) in lead which I had removed; he had also removed a sourced mention about a Hindu lower-caste community – Thiyya. There are multiple legends on the creator - Parashurama, Shiva, Agasthya; they want Parashurama, not only that, they don't want to attribute it as "legend" (I agree with [3]). I suspect Outlander07 and Kalariwarrior to be the same person, all three are incompetent in editing. The article requires serious cleanup for sourcing and NPOV. Should I report this activity to WP:ANI, or somewhere else, or what? Please help. 2409:4073:103:B264:4177:62E9:8313:1743 (talk) 08:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

On Wikiquote, article about "Left-wing politics" could use attention

FYI, on Wikiquote, it looks like all or almost all the quotes about "Left-wing politics" are criticism of the Left.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

- 2804:14D:5C59:8833:E5AF:9B7A:1B77:B9B4 (talk) 01:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi User talk:2804:14D:5C59:8833:E5AF:9B7A:1B77:B9B4, I think the whole article is unnecessary. 'Left' is a very much as i understand it to wide encompassing a term to justify a list of 'for or against' quotes. Maybe it should be split into 'Communism', Anarchism' (these seem to exist), etc. And deleted? W1tchkr4ft 00 (talk) 16:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Capitalism: A Journal of History and Economics

Hello, the article for the Capitalism: A Journal of History and Economics was recently nominated for deletion. Perhaps the members of this project would like to comment? It seems to be a KEEP in my opinion. Thriley (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1st Central Committee of the Workers' Party of North Korea/archive1

Hi

The list 1st Central Committee of the Workers' Party of North Korea is currently a FL nominee. If you're interested in reviewing the FL please give comments. --Ruling party (talk) 11:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Roscoe Fillmore

An article under this WikiProject's jurisdiction, Roscoe Fillmore, has been nominated for deletion. You can comment here.--User:Namiba 19:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory has an RFC

Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:00, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Marxism articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion

Category:Marxism articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 00:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Fourth International

I have nominated Fourth International for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 03:43, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

University student editing a stub

Hi there, I am a university student editing the following stub for my final assignment Australian People for Health, Education and Development Abroad. I felt as this Wikiproject was aligned with the motives behind this organisation, therefore I am seeking anyone's review of this stub and/or any further advice on how I could elevate this to the next level, ie a B or C article. Any feedback and help would be very much appreciated! Thank you so much LMJ050100 (talk) 07:24, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Active project

Hi all!

I feel like, with the activity in discussions/ other articles, that this project is active. Thought I'd put something on here to see if anyone comments so that this can be changed :D Jamzze (talk) 21:46, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Jamzze: it's somewhat active. As you see in this talk page, it's not fully active, but not defunct either. MarioGom (talk) 09:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Assessment of James Larkin

Substantially edited since last assessment. Best Regards, Grosseteste (talk) 19:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Someone already updated all assessments. MarioGom (talk) 09:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Splitting discussion for People's Socialist Party, Nepal

An article that been involved with (People's Socialist Party, Nepal ) has content that is proposed to be removed and moved to another article (2021 split of the People's Socialist Party, Nepal). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:24, 26 July 2021 (UTC). AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:24, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Merging discussion for Labor notes (currency)

Labor notes (currency) has content that is proposed to be merged into to another article (Labour voucher). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. BeŻet (talk) 12:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Notice of Featured Article Review

I have nominated Hungarian Revolution of 1956 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Bumbubookworm (talk) 12:49, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Why Marx Was Right

I've created Why Marx Was Right and nominated it for DYK and GA status. Any feedback or improvements inside or outside these processes would be very welcome. — Bilorv (talk) 00:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks really good! BeŻet (talk) 14:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Communism is redirecting to WikiProject Socialism

Hello,

I would like to understand why WikiProject Communism is redirecting to WikiProject Socialism. Both ideologies have their respective Portals. There are significant differences between those two ideologies, both in history and practice. --WalterMccan (talk) 16:04, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Communism has its own portal (Portal:Communism), but since communism is simply one of the tendencies within the socialist movement (or, if understanding it as "communist society", a goal of socialism) there is no point in creating separate WikiProjects. BeŻet (talk) 16:45, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Importance and Quality review for two articles.

Hi all, I've recently done a total rewrite of the stub article "Theory of imperialism" to fully reflect the diversity of opinion on this subject. This article has neither a quality nor an importance rating yet. I would appreciate advice on how to improve this article as it is my own area of academic research.

I've also recently rewritten the majority of the top-importance article on the "Second International." I think it is now of better quality than start quality, though I'm not an expert on the subject so I doubt it is higher than C or B status. Mirkyton (talk) 11:14, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Mona Sahlin, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:06, 30 August 2021 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team

Requested move at Talk:Theory of imperialism#Requested move 22 August 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Theory of imperialism#Requested move 22 August 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 19:12, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

FAR for James Joyce

User:Buidhe has nominated James Joyce for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 21:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Left Communism's Relationship to Leninism

I propose to make an amendment to the section of Left Communism to fix its' accuracy error in which it states that all currents of Left Communism criticize Leninism or are not Leninist in nature. The third paragraph discusses Bordiga and the ICP which was thoroughly Leninist which adds to the confusion of Left Communism being entirely anti-Leninism.

80.42.224.165 (talk) 22:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

You should probably take the discussion to Talk:Left communism. CentreLeftRight ✉ 03:57, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Unsourced additions to Category:Members of the Democratic Socialists of America

An IP vandal has been making unsourced additions to BLP articles, adding them to Category:Members of the Democratic Socialists of America. I reverted most or all of the recent ones, but there are still a bunch of articles in the category that should not be there. Some attention from someone familiar with the names would be helpful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Critique of political economy

Would a member of this WP care to review Critique of political economy and decide whether the quality and importance ratings for this Wikioproject (as given at talk:Critique of political economy) merit changing? I have just now reverted it to 'Mid' after the major contributing editor (who is fairly new) uprated it to 'High' – they may well be right but that judgement needs independent assessment.

Also, I suspect that it can come off 'Start class' but it still has significant sourcing and NPOV phrasing issues so I suspect it is no more than 'C'. Of course that could be improved with the help of some more contributors... --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 10:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Template:Socialism in the UK

Hi all,

It would be great to have some community input into this template for socialism in the UK. I have used the socialism in the United States template as a guide for what parties should be included. Template:Socialism in the UK

The US one takes a broad church view of socialism, which I have taken as what the UK one should also present including more centre-left to far-left parties. Including socialist, communisti, green parties, etc. It would be great to have further discussion on the scope of the UK one as another user editing it seems headstrong on what should/ should not be included.

Please do discuss on the page's talk page and edit as you see fit! Jamzze (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Croatian Spring at FAC

Hello all! There is a FAC at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Croatian Spring/archive1 I have recently nominated. Since the article is within the scope of this WikiProject, I thought to post here to attract more interest from editors who might post comments at the review page. Cheers --Tomobe03 (talk) 22:48, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Why Marx Was Right at FAC

Hi all, Why Marx Was Right is now at FAC, where you can leave a review here. All constructive criticism is welcome. — Bilorv (talk) 14:36, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Discussion about article "Liberation theology"

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Liberation theology#Missing_information_template_discussion, which is about an article that is within the scope of this WikiProject. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:37, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguation links to Committee for a Workers' International (disambiguation)

Could you help to fix links to Committee for a Workers' International (disambiguation) shown in Disambig fix list for Committee for a Workers' International (disambiguation)? There are about 30 of these disambiguation links, which are unhelpful to readers, and I do not have the knowledge to fix them.— Rod ^talk 15:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Rodw: I did not account for the number of disambiguations that would have to be remedied when I changed the redirect of Committee for a Workers' International from Committee for a Workers' International (1974) to Committee for a Workers' International (disambiguation). I reverted my change and that should get rid of the need to remedy most of these disambiguations. CentreLeftRight ✉ 19:31, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Sanewashing

Has the concept of sanewashing sufficient coverage to be notable enough for an article? //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 15:13, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Probably not since a quick Google search only returns unreliable sources. You can establish notability yourself by creating the article and providing reliable sources. CentreLeftRight ✉ 20:23, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi! If anyone wants to help I'd like some assistance with the article Critique of political economy

I think people here probably especially could help with Marx critique of political economy.

Kind regards,

Pauloroboto (talk) 12:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Gladly! I just finished that book and have pretty exhaustive page-by-page notes. Reaching out now

Futurefirst (talk) 02:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

"Full Communism"

FYI, the usage of Full Communism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Full Communism (album) -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:21, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Movement to reactivate Wikiproject Cooperatives

I'm leading a movement to reactive WikiProject Cooperatives. To get this started, I've opened an RFC to clarify the scope of the Cooperative article. If you have any interest in cooperative economics, please join us either at the RFC or the Wikiproject homepage. IohannesChicaginiensis (talk) 21:14, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Good idea! . Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:30, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Good Article Editathon event in October 2022

Hello WikiProject Socialism:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Editathon event in October 2022!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2022, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event – Wildcard Edition! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to any and all women and women's works during the event period. Want to improve an article about a Bollywood actress? Go for it. A pioneering female scientist? Absolutely. An award-winning autobiography by a woman? Yes! GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Goldsztajn (talk) 01:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Movement for Socialism#Requested move 8 November 2022

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Movement for Socialism#Requested move 8 November 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:50, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Discussion of interest

Members of this project may be interested in this discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:26, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Red-and-gold colored navboxes

These are commonplace for communist party navboxes, and while they are appealing, links in the group titles (golden yellow or white text on red background) are impossible to find unless hovered over. How could this issue be solved without resorting to removal of styling? WP:NAVCOLOR is a relevant guideline. -Vipz (talk) 13:56, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Inner German border

User:Buidhe has nominated Inner German border for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

WP:LABOR edit-a-thon

Please consider joining the closely related WikiProject WP:LABOR Edit-a-thon Wikipedia:WikiProject Organized Labour/Online edit-a-thon February 2023. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 21:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional Puertorriqueña

Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional Puertorriqueña has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Kenafick

There is an article being considered for deletion that is relevant to this project. CT55555(talk) 03:44, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Eddie Izzard

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Eddie Izzard#Requested move 15 March 2023 , which is within the scope of this WikiProject. The topic of the discussion is on moving the article due to Izzard's recent name change. Note, I'm making this notification manually as the RM doesn't seem to have been added to the alert list by the bot. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:49, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Need your input

A discussion is going on which pertains to Democratic Socialists of America. You are invited to participate here.--User:Namiba 23:15, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Help with '2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt'

Hey, Is there anyone that can help with this? I know this WP is pretty dead but it seemed like a place worth asking. the article: 2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt is very very broken, it is extremely NPOV and very large. I think this is an important piece of history that should be strictly NPOV, yet it almost exclusively cites american/reactionary interests. I would appreciate any help or tips on this article. thanks.SP00KYtalk 16:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Angolan Civil War

Angolan Civil War has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:21, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Just a note that this WikiProject uses standard quality assessments, so it should be no action required and an "opt-in". — Bilorv (talk) 06:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Soviet Empire#Requested move 26 April 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Soviet Empire#Requested move 26 April 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – MaterialWorks 16:20, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:American Popular Revolutionary Alliance#Requested move 28 April 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:American Popular Revolutionary Alliance#Requested move 28 April 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – MaterialWorks 19:41, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

• Support it is the official name of the organization Completely Random Guy (talk) 00:33, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

British cultural Marxism redirect

Need your input on where British cultural Marxism should redirect. Please discuss at Talk:Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. Thanks! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

I've made this an RFD Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_May_17#British_cultural_Marxism AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

2022 Peruvian political crisis relisting

An editor has requested for 2022 Peruvian political crisis to be moved to another page. Since you had some involvement with 2022 Peruvian political crisis, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). WMrapids (talk) 00:55, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Merger proposal

There is currently a discussion on whether to merge Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (Mensheviks) into Mensheviks underway here, for which input from members of the WikiProject would be very valuable. Felix QW (talk) 17:24, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Cornel West 2024 presidential campaign

I recently created a draft for the Cornel West 2024 presidential campaign. It may be of interest to members of this project. Thriley (talk) 20:09, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

New article at Left Bolsheviks

I am requesting some help in wikilinking to the new article I created at Left Bolsheviks, about a 1918 faction of the Russian Communist Party. Most mentions of the faction are currently linked to Left communism or its redirects, and should be changed to link here. More sources and/or expansion would also be appreciated. — Goszei (talk) 07:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Credibility bot

I am contacting this project as it uses {{Load WikiProject Modules}}. I am working on a new project to make it easier to set up WikiProjects with built-in bot reports. As a proof of concept, see Wikipedia:Vaccine safety/Sources. If this is something you might find useful, your support at User:Credibility bot would be appreciated. Thank you. Harej (talk) 21:18, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Left-wing terrorism and related AfDs

It would be very helpful if members of this Wikiproject would have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#List_of_left-wing_terrorist_attacks and the related AfDs that have been started over the past day or so. I want to be clear that this is not an attempt to canvass !voters for any particular outcome (actually, I expect members of this wikiproject are probably divided on whether any of these articles should exist or not). It's a plea to get some editors who are familiar with left-wing politics into the discussion, since so far it appears to be dominated by people who think (of course) no one thinks that their viewpoints are out on the wings, "Left-wing" exists more as a pejorative than as a viable description of political movements, people who think nationalist movements are right-wing by definition, etc. -- asilvering (talk) 21:53, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Korenizatsiia#Requested move 21 August 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Korenizatsiia#Requested move 21 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Premier of the Soviet Union#Merge proposal

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Premier of the Soviet Union#Merge proposal that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Skjoldbro (talk) 09:55, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Miscategorization?

Why is Taiping Heavenly Kingdom considered a High-importance part of this WikiProject? The Heavenly Kingdom has almost nothing to do with the history of socialism. Considering its marginal provenance, it should be Low-importance if it is included at all. — Remsense聊 15:51, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

I removed the article from the WikiProject. There is no mention of anything even close to socialism in that article, obviously, because the rebellion had nothing to do with socialism. Yue🌙 00:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Colectivo (Venezuela)

A current discussion is taking place regarding the neutrality of the article Colectivo (Venezuela). Feel free to take a look and participate!--WMrapids (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for McCarthyism

McCarthyism has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Marcia Falkender, Baroness Falkender#Requested move 3 January 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Marcia Falkender, Baroness Falkender#Requested move 3 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:26, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Request for input on merge proposal

I have made a proposal that Marxism-Leninism-Maoism be merged into Maoism.

Currently, I've only received feedback from three other people, one pro merge, two against. Only one of those against the merge has given significant feedback and currently I think the discussion is at an impasse. This is so as neither of us have budged from our original positions and the person has stated that they no longer wish to restate their arguments. So, in the interest of not tagging them when they feel that they have said all that they can say, I hope someone here can help tip the scales either way.

The discussion page is here: Talk:Maoism#Merge proposal

My argument could be summarised as the following:

• Modern groups and individuals who refer to themselves as 'Maoists' tend to use the terms 'Mao Zedong Thought', 'Maoism' and 'Marxism-Leninism-Maoism' interchangeably. This is not limited to the west.
• The only sources that have been provided that describe a difference between 'Maoism' and 'Marxism-Leninism-Maoism' are quite old.
• What differences there are with modern Maoism and 'the thought of Mao Zedong' are minimal at best (imo) and (imo) these differences are vague and often border on sophistry.
• Currently, nearly everything covered by Marxism-Leninism-Maoism is covered in Maoism, and Maoism covers a greater range of content. I'd argue this is due to the two terms being largely interchangeable, not due to editors getting things wrong.

The argument against merging (obviously I'm biased here so please read the discussion yourself):

• Maoism and Marxism-Leninism-Maoism are different, the former meaning 'the thought of Mao Zedong' and the latter being an ideology developed after the death of Mao.
• Currently, the article on 'Maoism' is actually about 'Mao Zedong Thought' and the article on 'Marxism-Leninism-Maoism' is low quality but could be developed to include information which would differentiate it from 'Maoism'.

FropFrop (talk) 07:32, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Dahua Technology's minority state ownership

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Talk:Dahua Technology#Incorrect terminology in infobox and lead - Additional input requested from editors on how to refer to a Chinese company with 11.67% state ownership. This has been a two-party dispute, in which I offered a third opinion, but both parties think additional voices would help settle the question.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:26, 11 January 2024 (UTC)