Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Graphic design/Archive 1

Archive 1

Too narrow?

I'm not sure that a focus as narrow as graphic design will get as much attention as it needs without it being tied to a broader focus such as design, visual communications or media studies. Graphic design is only one interdependent discipline among many others in art and media development. Other disciplines include marketing communications, creative direction, art direction, copywriting, technical writing, instructional design, engineering, multimedia development, image development, and production. A broader focus would attract more cooperation from professionals on the cutting edge of graphic design working in advertising agencies and the film industry. Artsmartconsulting 19:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

There's no reason we can't focus on all those things seperately while also addressing their interdependency. There's room for everyone. This particular project concerns graphic design and is centered on Wikipedia's graphic design page - which is sorely in need of improvement. But that hub is just part of the project; we'll also deal with articles linking to and from that page, specifically their relation to graphic design.

If you're saying graphic design shouldn't even be it's own project, and that it only exists as a subset of other things, then I think you're drastically underestimating the scope and complexity of design as a process, a form, and a career.Rasi2290

Graphic design should be it's own project. The page does need much improvement. I'm just guessing that there would be more professional participation on the graphic design page if the WikiProject had a broader focus. The people who know the most about graphic design, most-likely started their careers with graphic design and have since been promoted to positions of broader concerns, like advertising business management, creative direction, marketing communications, art direction, copywriting, project management, production management, ect. Those people may be willing to add professionalism to the graphic design page, but may not come across it unless it were tied to a WikiProject with a broader focus like marketing, visual communications or media studies. Artsmartconsulting 17:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why it's necessary to have a wikiproject to fix just one article (Graphic design). Just work on the talk page there. If you're going to start a wikiproject, have it look at the whole graphic arts community: printing, design, computer graphics, etc. Sbwoodside 05:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Graphic design is a distinct discipline and profession, with a well-developed body of ideas, and a distinct history. Lump it in with areas like computer graphics and illustration, and you lose that essential connection to ideas behind graphic design. To understand its scope, look at the number of graphic design schools -- just in the US, the National Association of Schools of Design lists about 140 accredited undergraduate graphic design programs, and roughly two dozen graduate programs. There's material here for an entire project. It's not as if one page covers the breadth and depth of the subject. Chelt 15:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Graphic Design is definitely its own project and one that's had a dynamic history for more than 5,000 years. I believe that Graphic Design is more than a discipline or profession. Its theory, history, science, communication, debate, art, and nature all rolled in one. To begin this project we need to think about Graphic Design as more of an entity (whatever that means) than a specific job title or profession. One thing I find intriguing about the idea of going forward with a graphic design project is to see how this thing could blossom globally. Communication is a global concept thats an essential part of every society. As we move forward to a more globalized society it will be interesting to discuss and document the differences and similarities of our histories and concepts and to see where they lead us into the future. Sh0wnpc 14:50, 1 October 2006

Actually I'm for the broader view. Graphic design certainly one day needs to be its own project, but as long as we don't have a fluently working wikiproject for design in general and need more manpower I'd go for that one instead. Prove me wrong by showing that together we can get this project going without a parent ,) –Zinjixmaggir 06:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

It's been 2 years. I've made some Wikipedia:Bold strides. But I have yet to prove you wrong. And I'm getting tired of the resistance. Oicumayberight (talk) 17:11, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a note-

I am a third year graphic design major at a small liberal arts college. As a student of this discipline, I must agree with user ShOwnpc on this article. Graphic design is an "entity," in and of itself; to "lump it in" with illustration, printing, etc., as some have suggested, is incorrect. Just as you would not call an interior designer a "painter," a "builder," an "art framer," a "sewer," or a "shopper," though his/her job may involve some or all of these, a graphic designer is not simply an "illustrator;" aspects of illustration, marketing, printing, etc. are parts of the graphic design process. This, anyway, is the way in which we study graphic design at my college and the way the subject is represented in our texts.

Also, Paul Rand is an extremely influential modern graphic designer who is not on your graphic designer list.

Thank you for your time. Wikipedia is a wonderful resource. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.38.254.2 (talk) 22:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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GA reassessment of Paul Rand

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Being deleted: Template:WikiProject_Graphic_design_invite

has been requested for speedy deletion, I am not sure I understand why Ikip (talk) 16:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Invitation for the Typeface collaboration

Requesting editors' help There is currently an oppened collaboration which aims in improving articles related to typefaces and font categorization. If you´re interested in this subject, please visit the collaboration page, add your self and see how you can help.

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New face & help with articles & userbox/banner

Hey there fellow designers! I'm a Finnish industrial/graphic designer interested in taking Wikipedia further in this area. I just finished creating the pages Lo-Type and Louis Oppenheim. The latter's importance however was questioned right from the beginning so I was wondering if you could help me expand the articles or point me to more sources on the topic.

Oh and is there a banner or a userbox a project participant could add to their user page? –Zinjixmaggir 07:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I added a userbox for this wikiproject and put it on the page – feel free to use it =) –Zinjixmaggir 06:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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WikiGFX

there is a Wiki dedicated totally to graphics at http://www.wikigfx.com that needs help if you want to add some in-depth articles about GFX stuff there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harrisale (talk • contribs) 04:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

Categorization of typefaces

I have proposed that Category:Programming typefaces be deleted, because the usage of a typeface such as in programming environments is not a notable feature and is not listed in any type classification that I have ever come across. Here are some of my thoughts/proposals. I'd like to remove the Category:Typefaces from most of the typeface articles, because it is a parent cat and redundant with various other subcats. We should use List of typefaces as the place to group all of the typefaces together in one bunch, and allow the categorization system to group them by various characteristics. I think that all typeface articles should have at least one style category, then if possible, a foundry category, and a date category. I also think we should group all of the style subcats in their own parent cat called Category:Typefaces by style. I'm not sure if we have enough typefaces to fill each subcat, but I would like to see a style categorization tree similar to the following: Category:Typefaces by style

• Category:Serif typefaces
  • Category:Old style typefaces
  • Category:Transitional typefaces
  • Category:Modern typefaces
  • Category:Slab-serif typefaces
• Category:Sans-serif typefaces
  • Category:Grotesque typefaces
  • Category:Geometric typefaces
  • Category:Humanist typefaces
• Category:Script typefaces
• Category:Blackletter typefaces
• Category:Symbol typefaces

I'm not sure how we should break up the scripts (formal? semi-formal? casual? calligraphic? handwriting? brush?), and I do not believe we have enough blackletter to worry about textura vs. fraktur vs. rotunda vs. schwabacher. Not sure where we'd place uncial.

We then could have further optional stylistic categories that don't fit into the above tree:

• Category:Non-latin typefaces (Cyrilic, Japanese, Arabic, etc. they could be serif or sans)
• Category:Display typefaces
• Category:Incised typefaces (such as the serif Trajan and Copperplate and the san-serif Lithos)
• Category:Monospace typefaces

Anyway, what do others think of filling out the classification like this? Good idea or bad? Anything you would change to make things better?-Andrew c 17:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

This is—as I understand it—the most often used categorization and appropriate. Lets do it! --Parhamr 19:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Let me note that I used a number of sources to come up with the tree, namely Type Classification, Typographic Design: Form and Communication by Rob Carter, Ben Day, and Philip B. Meggs, and The Thames and Hudson Manual of Typography by Ruari McLean. -Andrew c 20:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Aviary (application suite)

I've created Aviary (application suite), mainly because it wasn't there. I have absolutely no knowledge of the subject, but I had been seeing it around the internet, so there you go. It is currently a bit crap. I would very much like it if people who are actually good at doing things would fix it up a bit. Thanks. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 06:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Black rectangles in SVG images

Why do these black boxes appear: Image:Hmac.svg? =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

to anyone with an interest in how the practice of photo editing is portrayed

There is a small group of article manipulators who seem to think that photo manipulation better describes photo editing than image editing. I don't have to tell you the negative implications that are associated with the word manipulation. By directing the term "photo editing" to that article, it implies that every form of photo editing is a form of manipulation. So if you don't want to feel guilty for using photoshop, I encourage you to join the debate. Oicumayberight 21:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Photo editing does not redirect anywhere, it actually points to a disambig page for Image editing and Photo manipulation – two very different articles. Someone way back decided, without any consensus at all, to re-name the latter Photo editing which has now finally been reverted. As the disambig page clearly points out Photo manipulation is (and has always been) about the ethics of photo editing, including political uses, through to the cultural impact that the proliferation of image editing software has had, concerned with historical statements of fact. It's clearly NOT concerned with POV judgments of a profession, as you imply. Far from involving a "small group of manipulators", the discussion about it was months and hundreds of posts long, involved several RfCs and many different editors. If you missed getting involved then, by all means, bring up the subject again, but I would advise you to read the original debate before jumping to absurd and unfounded conclusions. --mikaul^talk 09:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess my response here is a year late to this person who responded almost a month late. I did read the history and was involved when I made request for others on this project to get involved. It was me who removed the redirect and made it a disambiguation page. I was also involved in the discussion and editing of that page. I would advise you to check the page history and signatures of users involved before you assume that I'm assuming. Oicumayberight (talk) 20:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Anti-graphic design on wikipedia?

Has anyone besides me noticed any subtle anti-graphic design and anti-graphic designer editing on wikipedia? Oicumayberight (talk) 16:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

My comment here wasn't just about this latest episode I've had on wikipedia. However, I'm inviting anyone from this project who wants to join in on discussing what may effect the future of wikipedia editing policy. I started the discussion on this style guide essay. When I didn't get any response in professional visual art or graphic design terms, I requested participation from experts here Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#Icons_on_wikipedia. An RFC was also started with discussion on the actual page in question Talk:Multimedia, which was addressed to science, mathematics or technology, anything but art. It would be nice to get some professional graphic designers other than myself in on the discussion. It's not just about the article in question, but about how graphics might be used every where on the wikipedia. I know wikipedia is not a forum for sharpening ones graphic design skills, but that doesn't mean graphic shouldn't be used. And if graphic should be used, there is no reason why those with less interest in graphic design should have the only say on when and how graphics are used on the wikipedia. I'd like to at least walk away from this discussion knowing that professional graphic designers opinions other then my own were represented in the discussion no matter what those opinions are in favor of.

There are some other conflicts that I may bring up here later if they keep resurfacing. But for now this one demands most of my attention, especially as I have yet to hear from anyone from either the graphic design or visual arts projects. Oicumayberight (talk) 21:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Input request on typographic topic

There is a discussion going on at Template talk:Typography terms, and was wondering if anyone watching this page would like to offer their opinions there. The topic is related to type classifications, and specifically Gaelic script. If you could take the time to review the discussion and add your thoughts, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!-Andrew c ^[talk] 22:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Are there no active members of this project?-Andrew c ^[talk] 02:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing last week when I got no help on the icon issues from either this project or the visual arts project. I'm a little burned out now. Oicumayberight (talk) 16:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Typeface article

I've been reading wikipedia for a few years, but only recently decided to start putting in my two cents on articles (mostly in discussing potential issues/ suggesting solutions on the talk pages so far). However I was curious if anyone in the graphic design project thought that typeface should fall within the scope of this project? seems to me an integral piece of graphic design. Crocadillion 12:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

After helping out with the newly created Template:Typography terms and getting on a Typeface article categorization kick, it dawned on my that there was no central place to discuss matters of typography on wikipedia. My first thought was to create Wikipedia:WikiProject Typography, but I wanted to check out the existing wikiprojects (and here I am). This WikiProject doesn't seem that active, so perhaps, instead of adding a new wikiproject just to tackle typography, we could expand this wikiproject to include typography? What do people think?-Andrew c 23:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe, instead of hijacking a wikiproject, we could just use either Talk:Typeface or Talk:Typography as a location for centralized discussion and ask users who want to be involved to add that article to their watch list (that is basically the technique used with illuminated manuscript related articles).-Andrew c 23:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I don’t know if it would be hijacking, I mean typography is a part of graphic design. I say we include the discussions in this WikiProject. Max Naylor 16:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

This maybe a year and a half too late. I agree that typefaces are within the scope of graphic design. I see this WikiProject as a dispatch for graphic design related articles that need help. So I agree with part of what everyone has stated. Solicit help here on graphic design related articles, and then graphic designers should help with the specific problems on the talk pages of those articles. Oicumayberight (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll second you, Oicumayberight. Fonts and typography are one of the hotpoints of disucussion among graphic designers I know. Since we actually have a professional field for graphic design, I think that it's reasonable to use those things that are germane to their profession as a good rule of thumb for what should be handled by this working group. This mostly means their tools, techniques, and technologies, and we can expand the list from there. Robert Rapplean (talk) 18:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Type designers

I have just listed Category:Type designers for deletion, with a view either to merging its contents into Category:Typographers or to sorting the members of Category:Typographers into Category:Type designers. Please take a look at the discussion and provide any opinions you may have. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 20:50, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I know type design falls under the category of typography, but isn't it specialized enough to warrant it's own subcategory? Oicumayberight (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

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Interesting that the article graphic design is only ranked 6th under it's own project. It's almost 1/3rd the popularity of advertising. Oicumayberight (talk) 00:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

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"Visual design?" Gimmie a break.

I can't believe the ignorance that lead to this article [2]. I'm going to redirect this article to graphic design in a week. I'm leaving it open for a bit to see if anyone wants to comment on its talk page. Sheesh! Oicumayberight (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

On second look, there's no point in waiting a week. I see that it was once redirected to graphic design already. There seems to be only one an anonymous user‎ who reverted the redirect with some bogus claims. Oicumayberight (talk) 18:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Now another anonymous user wants to edit war [3]. The bogus claim is that graphic design is a term that applies exclusively to print. The article is referencing a book which I'm positive says nothing of the sort. Oicumayberight (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I would say Visual Design is part of Communication Design, or at least so similar that the terms apply to pretty much the same thing. So I don't really see why it should need a seperate part in the general article. Typehigh (talk) 18:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

It really doesn't need a separate part. This appears to be some sort of lobbying for a better buzzword than "graphic design" without the balls to discuss it on this project page. They keep removing the link to the graphic design page from the article from anonymous IPs with no explanations. I've reverted it several times. I would delete the whole subsection myself, but I don't want to get in an edit war. Oicumayberight (talk) 05:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Notification regarding Wikipedia-Books

Hadronic Matter An overview

An example of a book cover, taken from Book:Hadronic Matter

As detailed in last week's Signpost, WikiProject Wikipedia books is undertaking a cleanup all Wikipedia books. Particularly, the {{saved book}} template has been updated to allow editors to specify the default covers of the books. Title, subtitle, cover-image, and cover-color can all be specified, and an HTML preview of the cover will be generated and shown on the book's page (an example of such a cover is found on the right). Ideally, all books in Category:Book-Class Graphic design articles should have covers.

If you need help with the {{saved book}} template, or have any questions about books in general, see Help:Books, Wikipedia:Books, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, or ask me on my talk page. Also feel free to join WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, as we need all the help we can get.

This message was delivered by User:EarwigBot, at 22:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC), on behalf of Headbomb. Headbomb probably isn't watching this page, so if you want him to reply here, just leave him a message on his talk page. EarwigBot ^{(owner • talk)} 22:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

New Design portal

Hi guys! The Design portal has just opened for business and we would appreciate your collaboration on it. Please have someone from the GD team talk to me. Thanks in advance!
Note: Rationale for having a portal about Design (at large):

• There once was a sketch for an Industrial Design portal: over a 3-year period, it was not brought up to speed;
• On the other hand, there is a fully-operational Visual arts portal: but it does not cater especially (if at all) to the Design topic;
• There is no Graphic design portal (although there is a Typography portal);
• There is no Interior design portal (although there is an Architecture portal);
• There are thousands of Wikipedia articles related to the topic of Design;
• The conclusion of all of these facts is that having a separate Design portal is needed.
• The Design portal should stick mostly to: Industrial design (531 articles + about 1000), Graphic design (181 articles + about 1000) and Interior design (about 932 articles) because...
  • Fashion design is already covered by the Fashion portal;
  • Automotive design is already covered by the Automobile portal;
  • Aeronautics is already covered by the Aviation portal;
  • Bicycle design is already covered by the Cycling portal;
  • Motorcycle design is already covered by the Motorcycle racing portal;
  • Naval architecture is already covered by the Ships portal;
  • Traditional decorative arts are already covered by the Visual arts portal;
  • Game design is already covered by the Video games portal;
  • Software design is already covered by the IT portal;
  • Urban/Environmental design is already covered by the Architecture portal;
  • Electronic design is already covered by the Electronics portal;
  • Costume/Scenic design is already covered by the Film portal.

--AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 03:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Well Unkle, I'm glad you're glad about the Design portal suggestions for improvement, but what I met by ' start! ' was: ' OK, Graphic Design WikiProject people, if you agree with this, why don't you get on with it... '. Thanks for finding somebody in the GD community, this thing won't improve by magic! --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 19:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I understood, and I admire and applaud your enthusiasm. Just haven't had the free time to get to it yet. UnkleFester (talk) 06:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi again Unkle and the rest of the GD community, I see you began incorporating more Graphic designers in the Design portal and that's... GREAT! I think your influence on the portal would be 'accelerated' even more if a GD WP member could also improve the graphics box in one shot. Then, one action we now do here at ID WP is to put this line in all ID articles:

==See also==

{{Portal|Design|Design_portal_logo.jpg}}

I guess traffic will be boosted if you do the same over time with GD articles. Keep up the good work, --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 19:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

(Note: on a different unrelated subject I gather you asked for WolterBot; don't count on it anytime soon: I think the operator is dead; I started a discussion about this here.)

These could be tagged GD WP, don't you think so? Talk:Erkki_Ruuhinen, Talk:Sujata_Keshavan. Bye now, --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 23:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Visual Communication

Is it right to say that Pranav Mistry is today's biggest contributer to the field of visual communication? I am very familiar with his work on SixthSense but it seems a little out of context here.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by James hogan70 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:18, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Biographies of graphic designers - should they be tagged Category:Graphic design or have a sub-category

I was just tagging a few biographies of Graphic Designers Category:Graphic design when I realized this will probably make the category very difficult to view later, so I'll revert. Shouldn't there be a sub category for graphic designers, I find many biographies that could go in that category, and may also help other graphic design interested editors find biographies that could use a little editing help. SirShill (talk) 13:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Interactive tutorial help

I'm working on a project for an interactive tutorial for new editors and we're trying to mock-up the first units/levels (http://enwp.org/User:Ocaasi/The_Wikipedia_Game). I need a few good images of the Wikipedia interface, and some dialogue boxes and basic interface shots for the alpha version which will be done in Adobe Flash. Does anyone have basic photoshop skills and a few hours? Any help would be much appreciated. User:Ocaasi ^c 00:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Natural mapping

I've moved Natural mapping to Natural mapping (interface design) and changed Natural mapping to a disambiguation page. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Looking for Online Ambassadors interested in design and digital media

Hi folks. I'm not sure if anyone keeps up with this page any more, but the Wikipedia Ambassador Program is working with a class for the upcoming term on the history of design and digital media, and we're looking for some experienced Wikipedians with an interest in the subject area to support the class as Online Ambassadors. If you're interested, please let me know.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 16:54, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi all, I just wanted to second Sage's request. I am teaching a course on the history of design and digital media this semester, and I am looking for folks active in the Graphic Design wikiproject to help shepherd students and do GA reviews. If there is anyone who is active in this WikiProject, please let me know. Theredproject (talk) 17:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Lack of response by members, and general lack of discussion here, makes me tag this as semi-active. If there is still no discussion here in few months, I'd suggest tagging this project as fully inactive. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

When graphic designers grow up, they become simply "designers." This may explain the lack of participation. See the first post of the page.Oicumayberight (talk) 20:28, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

potential article_will_burtin_com232

I would like to add more to this article because I found to many article about him online and in books. I would add:

• Picture of him
• Early life
• career
• His contribution
• His achievements
• Pictures of his work
• More references

--Kpervaiz (talk) 14:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)komal--Kpervaiz (talk) 14:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Boxout, Floating Box, Sidebar

I notified the WikiProject Typography of problems with Sidebar (publishing), Boxout and Floating block. But I think those articles could be of interest to this WikiProject as well. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Typography#Boxout, Floating Box, Sidebar for the discussion. Recdep (talk) 20:34, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention

This is a notice about Category:Graphic design articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 18:15, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Speedbird up for deletion

The Speedbird, created for Imperial Airways, later BOAC and British Airways, was one of the iconic designs of the 1930s. The article is now up for deletion. Please visit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Speedbird and say what you think. If you can improve the article too, that would be great. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 06:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

For those with some knowledge of phylogenetics, and clade presentations

Could you have a look at this effort, here, to use clade diagrams to summarize pharma business acquisitions. My take at present is that the images created are devoid of standard quantitative meaning that cladograms offer—nothing in this novel application is captured by vertical and horizontal line lengths, as far as I can tell—and so they are a misapplication of this maths/graphic presentation method.

Moreover, I argue that they are misleading (presenting a time axis, but not making spacing of events proportionate to the historical time differences), much harder to maintain (consider adding entries to a std Table versus this graphic), more likely to diminish article quality (in their ambiguity of content, again, over a std Table with clear headings), and therefore practically amenable to decay as a result. I would add to this, in this esteemed graphic design context, that this would make those who trained many of us, and purists in methodology and meaning (and Edward Tufte more generally), turn in their graves/beds. After having a look at the User page and at a couple of pages linked on that sandbox page, leave your opinion here, regarding the overall effort? Thanks for your opinion.

Please, also—re-post in places where the concern is for the stability of information entered into WP? I do not know where best to post it, with regard to the "harder to maintain" aspects of my argument. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about the inappropriate posting above. I have opened a discussion in the appropriate forum, here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Companies#Diagrams, for anyone who is interested Jytdog (talk) 03:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Jytdog moved the question to a new forum, the one where it is least likely to be viewed with rigour/relevant experience, see last comment and link. I reply there. I stand by the fact that a Tufte- or related type of knowledge base is an appropriate venue to call for experts, and so that it was appropriate to call out to you you at this location, to ask your input. All coming from this area, I would appreciate if you state for the record your experiential bases in quantitative graphic representation, or other areas, germane to the question, for sake of transparency, please. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk: Non-free content#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk: Non-free content#RfC for NFCC#8 exemptions for currency and USPS stamps. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 06:29, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

Greetings WikiProject Graphic design/Archive 1 Members!

This is a one-time-only message to inform you about a technical proposal to revive your Popular Pages list in the 2016 Community Wishlist Survey that I think you may be interested in reviewing and perhaps even voting for:

• Fix and improve Mr.Z-bot's popular pages report

If the above proposal gets in the Top 10 based on the votes, there is a high likelihood of this bot being restored so your project will again see monthly updates of popular pages.

Further, there are over 260 proposals in all to review and vote for, across many aspects of wikis.

Thank you for your consideration. Please note that voting for proposals continues through December 12, 2016.

Best regards, Stevietheman — Delivered: 18:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Page footer, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 17 April 2017 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

Popular pages report

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Graphic design/Archive 1/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Graphic design.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

• The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
• The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
• The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Graphic design, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   10:57, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Wanted poster, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)