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"Long lead" listings

This is a slight follow up on Bencherlite's comment on the long lead items that fill the list, sometimes for months in advance, is there a way we can lock some of these down off this list, but so they appear as proposed? We have 5 of our 13 noms currently filled with proposed lists for September or later (up until April 2014), and it would be good to free up some space if we can shift them to a holding space. Any thoughts? - SchroCat (talk) 18:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

That's a good idea. Would you propose making a new page to hold future TFLs? That seems like it would be an efficient method that leaves the blurbs ready to use, and it would get lists like the April 2014 candidate off the main submissions page. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:10, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Giants2008, sorry for the delay, for some reason this dropped off my watchlist. I think we have two options here: firstly to just have a time limit on proposals (3 months?); and secondly to have a new page to hold those that have dates relevant dates suggested to them that are outside that three month limit. (The stutterers list is a good example of this: Neelix nominated it on 4 January, a month later I suggested 22 October. Under the proposed regime, we would then move the nom to the new holding page). Thought? - SchroCat (talk) 19:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for this delay too. :-) Considering that we have several lists that could have been placed onto a holding page, like Deportation of Armenian intellectuals on 24 April 1915, I like this idea. It allows us to avoid forgetting lists with strong date relevance like this one, and the submissions page might flow better. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:20, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Pageview stats off

I have started up a thread about how all the page view stats being used for WP:DYKSTATS, WP:TFLSTATS and WP:TFASTATS are using 23:00 to 22:59 (UTC) rather than 00:00 to 23:59 (UTC) as the day at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#wikiviewstats_vs._stats.grok.se.2Fen_time_ranges_.2823:00_to_22:59_.28UTC.29_rather_than_00:00_to_23:59_.28UTC.29.29.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:24, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

TFL links to featured topics

Since July, any TFA that is part of a Featured topic has had a link to that featured topic in the blurb using {{TFATOPIC}}. The template supports links to two topics if appropriate. See Wikipedia:Featured topics on the Main Page for the list of times when it's been done so far (10 at the time of writing). There has not been any negative reaction to this. I have now added support for |topic1= and |topic2= to {{TFLcontent}} to enable the same thing to happen for TFLs - see Wikipedia:Today's featured list/September 26, 2014 for tomorrow's TFL as the first example. After doing this, I noticed that Neelix had suggested the same thing at this TFL nomination - great minds think alike, etc. Bencherlite^Talk 09:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

That all sounds good to me. Neelix (talk) 12:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

How should the links to the full article/list at the end of the Today's Featured Article/List sections be formatted?

You may like to know that a discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article on whether to remove the "..." at the end of (Full article...) in TFA blurbs. (Logic would suggest that any changes to TFA practice on this point ought to be matched at TFL for consistency of main-page presentation.) Please discuss there, not here, to avoid fragmenting the discussion. Bencherlite^Talk 20:53, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Additional FL delegate proposal

An RfC for apropposed additional FL delegate is now open here. The discussion will run for ten days; all comments are welcome. – SchroCat (talk) 08:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Discussion on WP:VPI

You are invited to comment on a discussion on Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Time to increase the frequency of WP:TFL again?. Please note that this is purely a discussion, not for generating consensus or voting. Thank you. sst✈ 15:39, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

400-series highways

I've just been informed that 400-series highways has been chosen to appear on the main page on September 19. As the primary editor, I'd like to request that this date be withheld in favour of a listing on July 1, 2017 - the 60th anniversary of the 400-series designation. Cheers - Floydian ^τ _¢ 23:52, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

TFL Dec 9 candidate

Hi, I'm posting with regards to the List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients of the Waffen-SS as scheduled for Dec 9 as a TFL. I would suggest that a different list be picked instead as, due to recent changes in consensus regarding the notability of the German WWII Knight's Cross recipient subjects, certain articles that are linked from the list are being redirected to an alphabetic list for lack of stand-alone notability. Many articles that remain are problematic due to content and sourcing. I can provide more information if needed. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

After careful consideration, I don't believe that the issues raised are serious enough for the list to be pulled. If articles that the list links to have been redirected, then the links in the list can just be removed. I used a disambiguation link checker on the article and found one linked page that redirect to the list; I removed the link, and suggest that any links redirecting to other lists can be handled similarly through normal editing. As for any issues with linked articles, those are not relevant to the assessed quality of this list; if the FL criteria (or the FA criteria, for that matter) had requirements that all pages linked in an article be in decent condition, then we would almost never get anything promoted. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Quick Question about Submissions

Hello, I have a quick question about the submission process. I would like to nominate the FL for Shannen Doherty filmography to appear on the main page sometime around Shannen Doherty's birthday on April 12. I was wondering if I could submit it a potential candidate for today's featured list that far in advance or if it would better to wait? I apologize for there is an obvious answer and thank you in advance. Aoba47 (talk) 03:21, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

By all means, go ahead and make an entry at WP:TFLS. I try to schedule lists several weeks before they are to appear on TFL, to give contributors adequate notice and provide time for late scheduling changes. By listing it at TFLS now, you're giving interested editors about a month to review things, which is certainly not too long in my opinion; there's also plenty of room for more nominations (five are listed now, with a maximum of 15 allowed). It looks like the closest available dates near her birthday are April 10 and April 14. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your response! I just wanted to make sure before putting anything up. I would be very happy with either one of those dates. I am going to construct the listing for it and post it sometime by the end of today. Aoba47 (talk) 15:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion on changing Ayrton Senna listing from 8 May to 1 May

Hello all. Giants2008 informed me that List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna is scheduled to appear on 8 May on the Main Page. I was wondering whether we could change the date from 8 May to 1 May when Senna passed away. Pinging Harrias, the main contributor to the list, and The Rambling Man, who has helped me considerably in another featured list I authored. Thanks. Lourdes 07:30, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm pretty ambivalent on this. If there's nothing else with date relevance for 1 May, then it would seem a more suitable date, but I don't think date relevance is so important for TFL as TFA. Harrias ^talk 09:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

The list currently in the May 1 slot (Family Guy (season 4)) was scheduled after a specific request for that date on WP:TFLS. I'm reluctant to change it now, although I don't know enough about Family Guy to say how relevant that date is for the show. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:14, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

I would suggest that the Senna link to that date is far more significant than a series of Family Guy. I have few memories of things that make me sit up and say "yes, I remember where I was when that happened", but most recently it was Trump being elected, Brexit, 9/11, Princess Diana dying and Senna. I watched that GP, watched the fallout, thought to myself as Senna powered off that curve, "game over". Far more emotive and notable (for me) than a particular series of Family Guy. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

It looks like the Family Guy season ended on May 21, 2006, and that day is a Friday this year. 1989, would you have any issue if I moved that list to the 21st so that the Senna list can appear on the 1st? Apparently, I've accidentally stumbled upon a list with very strong relevance for that day, and if this thread is any indication, readers will be highly interested in the Senna list. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:10, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

No. -- 1989 02:16, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you 1989, Giants2008, The Rambling Man, Harrias for considering this request. Lourdes 08:05, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Lourdes and 1989, I've gone ahead and changed the appearance dates. I must apologize because I apparently read April's days of the week in my last comment here; May 21 won't have a TFL, but the 22nd will, so I moved the Family Guy list there. Hope this is okay. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:35, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

April 7th, 2017

A few of use have been working on the WHO Model List of Essential Medicines for the last number of years. Have it nominated for FL here. Hope is that if we can get it to FL status to have it on the main page for World Health Day on April 7th, 2017. We have solved the copyright issues by having the WHO agree to release the list under a CC BY SA 3.0 license. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Sounds like a great plan. Since April 7 is a Friday, a TFL appearance on that date is possible if the list is promoted within the next couple of months; I'll leave a spot open for it as long as I can. If I get some free time, I'll try to offer a review in the near-future, although I can't promise anything due to a busy real-life work schedule. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:18, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Giants2008 I am travelling but hopefully can manage. Many thanks for the offer of a review. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:08, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Wondering if we could get this on the main page for June 6th? WHO is launching further promotion of the list that day. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:19, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Switching a FLs date on the main page

We have been working with the World Health Organization for a few years on WHO Model List of Essential Medicines. The list has now reached FL. There is further efforts to increase awareness of this list occuring on June 6th (June 5th UTC).

Wondering if it is possible to switch with the J. C. Daniel Award? Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:47, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it is. :-) Giants2008 (Talk) 21:24, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.

Hello. Thanks for choosing the list I created for TFL. The date is perfect, I will update accordingly since de LGA are being held one day earlier. Javier Espinoza (talk) 20:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Tuesday's list

Please review my major copyedit to the featured list for Tuesday, March 19. Art LaPella (talk) 04:21, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh well, I tried. Art LaPella (talk) 04:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Every day has a featured list

There are nearly 3000 featured list haven't been on Main Page. So we should have 1 featured list in all days in week. 2001:EE0:4141:268D:CCBF:B0E2:586B:F2C8 (talk) 00:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

There have been occasional posts in various places supporting the idea of putting TFL on the Main Page on additional days. I've argued in the past that we have a surplus of lists in certain topics and a lack of FLs in others, which leads to the risk that we would have to feature sports/pop culture lists even more often than we currently do (as those are the categories where most of our FLs come from), leading to negative reader feedback. On the positive side, we did promote a good number of lists in the first quarter of the year, as this page shows, with some nice variety in what passed through the FLC process. If we were to request expansion of TFL, those are the kinds of numbers we need to allow for a diverse range of list subjects. Unfortunately, the past few months haven't been quite as strong. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:25, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

August 20

The Featured Article and Featured List for August 20 are both closely similar articles about Amy Adams. Art LaPella (talk) 04:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Not much discussion yet ... please see WP:Main_Page/Errors#Errors in the summary of the last or next featured list. - Dank (push to talk) 12:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I received a message on my talk page about this situation and responded both there and at WP:ERRORS. As I said at WP:ERRORS, I'll monitor the discussion for the next few hours, the period during which I can still edit the blurb. I'd suggest that others leave comments at the errors page, as TFA is also impacted in this case and Main Page talk is more visible than this page anyway. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Per Wehwalt's comment in that discussion, here's the list of September TFAs. Please let us know if any of these conflict with TFL. I'm posting the list because I'm usually the one to generate the list on-wiki, not because I have anything to do with scheduling.

1 Messier 87 2 Boletus aereus 3 Avenue Range Station massacre 4 Starvin' Marvin (South Park) 5 Metallurgical Laboratory 6 Babakotia 7 Don't Stop the Music (Rihanna song) 8 Lockdown (2008) 9 California Diamond Jubilee half dollar 10 D. Djajakusuma 11 Burke and Hare murders 12 Isis 13 Construction of Rockefeller Center 14 William McKinley 15 Bayern-class battleship 16 Thomas F. Bayard 17 WestJet Encore 18 Effects of Hurricane Isabel in North Carolina 19 No. 33 Squadron RAAF 20 Dromaeosauroides 21 Future Science Fiction and Science Fiction Stories 22 Guy Burgess 23 Red-billed tropicbird 24 Operation Ke 25 Æthelbald of Mercia 26 U.S. Route 25 in Michigan 27 From Russia, with Love (novel) 28 Myst IV: Revelation 29 John de Gray 30 Jean Bolikango - Dank (push to talk) 13:56, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Or use the archive. It always extends into the future. Art LaPella (talk) 14:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Sure, but that takes some scrolling. My list can be taken in at a glance, and I have to prepare it anyway, when I do the blurbs. - Dank (push to talk) 15:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Here's the October list:

• 1 Duncan Edwards
• 2 North Cascades National Park
• 3 Ray Lindwall with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948
• 4 Malagasy mountain mouse
• 5 Hurricane Hazel
• 6 Tree swallow
• 7 Francis Nash
• 8 Mark Oliphant
• 9 Camille Saint-Saëns
• 10 70th Infantry Division (United Kingdom)
• 11 History of the British penny (1714–1901)
• 12 Cortinarius caperatus
• 13 Amazing Stories
• 14 Battle of Hochkirch
• 15 P. G. Wodehouse
• 16 St Donat's Castle
• 17 Interstate 69 in Michigan
• 18 SMS Kaiser Karl der Grosse
• 19 Roger Norreis
• 20 Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge
• 21 Aberfan disaster
• 22 Charles Scott (governor)
• 23 Edmonds station (Washington)
• 24 Fragment of a Crucifixion
• 25 Yugoslav torpedo boat T5
• 26 Taapaca
• 27 Mascarene Parrot
• 28 2009 World Series
• 29 Binary search algorithm
• 30 Gevninge helmet fragment
• 31 Microscopium - Dank (push to talk) 00:29, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

• I remember that there was once a user page that showed the next month's worth of blurbs that were about to appear on TFA, TFL, and TFP, but I can't find it now and am not sure it still exists. It was a useful tool, but in its absence I'll try to have a look every once in a while to avoid having a repeat of the Amy Adams situation. There don't appear to be any same-day conflicts for the rest of October. I did schedule a baseball-related list for October 22, but since there's a six-day gap and the list is thematically distinct from the article set to run on the 28th, I'm not too concerned about it. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks kindly. I don't mind copying the tentative list over here, and November's list should be ready in a few days. - Dank (push to talk) 22:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

November's list:

• 1 Interstate 75 in Michigan, date
• 2 God of War: Ghost of Sparta, date
• 3 Bone Sharps, Cowboys, and Thunder Lizards
• 4 Eurasian tree sparrow
• 5 Spiro Agnew, date
• 6 Philadelphia municipal election, 1951, date
• 7 Déjà Vu (Beyoncé song)
• 8 Nemegtomaia
• 9 Turning Point (2008 wrestling), date
• 10 Herman Vandenburg Ames
• 11 Mesopropithecus
• 12 Archie vs. Predator
• 13 Imleria badia
• 14 Muhammad I of Granada
• 15 Portrait of Maria Portinari
• 16 History of York City F.C. (1980–present)
• 17 Nihonium
• 18 Rhode Island Tercentenary half dollar
• 19 Life's Shop Window, date
• 20 Connie Talbot, date
• 21 Hurricane Irene (2005)
• 22 Triangle (The X-Files), date
• 23 Nico Ditch
• 24 SECR N class
• 25 Wiglaf of Mercia
• 26 Grasshopper
• 27 Are You Experienced, date
• 28 Bulgaria
• 29 New York State Route 308
• 30 Battle of Tassafaronga - Dank (push to talk) 17:53, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

December's list (which might need updating in a day or two):

• 1 The Cloisters
• 2 Marasmius rotula
• 3 Wihtred of Kent
• 4 Kalākaua coinage
• 5 RSPB Minsmere
• 6 Jean Baptiste Point du Sable
• 7 Other Worlds, Universe Science Fiction, and Science Stories
• 8 Japanese battleship Nagato
• 9 Brachiosaurus
• 10 Enrico Fermi
• 11 Benjamin Tillman
• 12 Laurence Olivier
• 13 Pah Wongso Pendekar Boediman
• 14 SY Aurora's drift
• 15 Nothomyrmecia
• 16 Interstate 470 (Ohio–West Virginia)
• 17 Cuban macaw
• 18 The Way I See It
• 19 Cyclone Althea
• 20 Devon County War Memorial
• 21 Edmonds station (Washington)
• 22 Alan Bush
• 23 Sonic Adventure
• 24 Carolwood Pacific Railroad
• 25 A Christmas Carol
• 26 Allied naval bombardments of Japan during World War II
• 27 Apollo 8
• 28 Halo (Beyoncé song)
• 29 Mensa (constellation)
• 30 First Tennessee Park
• 31 John Doubleday (restorer) - Dank (push to talk) 00:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

January's TFA list:

• 1 Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a
• 2 Australian raven
• 3 2009 International Bowl
• 4 Brian Horrocks
• 5 Bradley Cooper
• 6 Weather Machine
• 7 Quebec Agreement
• 8 Ceratosaurus
• 9 Walking Liberty half dollar,
• 10 John/Eleanor Rykener
• 11 History of US science fiction and fantasy magazines to 1950
• 12 Banksia oblongifolia
• 13 Parliament of 1327
• 14 Roxy Ann Peak
• 16 Political career of John C. Breckinridge
• 17 Talk That Talk (Rihanna song)
• 18 Witches' Sabbath (The Great He-Goat)
• 19 Thomasomys ucucha
• 20 San Junipero
• 21 Reception history of Jane Austen
• 22 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
• 23 Tottenham outrage
• 24 Operation Pamphlet
• 25 ZETA (fusion reactor)
• 26 1956 Winter Olympics
• 27 Imperator torosus
• 28 Paul Henderson
• 29 Antlia
• 30 Mascarene grey parakeet
• 31 Ambrose Rookwood - Dank (push to talk) 15:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

February:

• 1 Tropical Storm Marco (1990)
• 2 Coenwulf of Mercia
• 3 Felix Mendelssohn
• 4 Gwen Stefani
• 5 William Bostock
• 6 New York State Route 373
• 7 Billy Joe Tolliver
• 8 Khalid al-Mihdhar
• 9 Radcliffe, Greater Manchester
• 10 Damageplan
• 11 Characters of Final Fantasy VIII
• 12 Goldcrest
• 13 Hawaii Sesquicentennial half dollar
• 14 Chains of Love (TV series)
• 15 No Way Out (2004)
• 16 Pseudoryzomys
• 17 Apus
• 18 Lock Haven, Pennsylvania
• 19 Wales national rugby union team
• 20 Hurricane Juan (1985)
• 21 SMS Kronprinz
• 22 M-28 (Michigan highway)
• 23 Istanbul
• 24 Plesiorycteropus
• 25 Flood (Halo)
• 26 Waisale Serevi
• 27 Battle of San Patricio
• 28 Dark Angel (2000 TV series)

March:

• Germanium
• Battle of Auberoche
• Liberty Head double eagle
• John Adams
• Resident Evil 5
• Al-Mu'tasim
• Maurice Ravel
• Brie Larson
• AirTrain JFK
• Australasian gannet
• WAVES
• Washington State Route 522
• Apollo 15 postal covers incident
• Packers sweep
• Planar transmission line
• Tom Thomson
• Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral
• John C. Calhoun
• Seattle Sounders FC
• 1896 Cedar Keys hurricane
• Fôrça Bruta
• Xixiasaurus
• Emesa helmet
• Hydnum repandum
• Project E
• Diamonds Are Forever (novel)
• SMS Schlesien
• William Matthews (priest)
• Referendum Party
• Albert Pierrepont
• Georgetown Car Barn - Dank (push to talk) 00:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

TFL for July 21

I know it looks premature, but once I finish up List of people who have walked on the Moon, submit it as a FLC, and then hopefully becomes FL...would it be a big deal to run it on July 21? It is a Sunday, which is not a normal day TFL runs, but it is the 50th anniversary of when we landed humans on the Moon for the first time. Hawkeye7 and I made Neil Armstrong and Apollo 11 FAs, with Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins hopefully joining soon. I finally have time to work on the list, so presuming it is ready in time, would it be possible to run on July 21 of this year (it would join Armstrong's TFA)? We can delay the discussion until after it (hopefully) becomes a FL, just wanted to float the idea early. Kees08 (Talk) 05:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand why this list exists; it is redundant to List of Apollo astronauts (and Apollo program), and any expansion can certainly still be added to that page. I would oppose this nomination at FLC under criterion 3b. Reywas92^Talk 19:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I plan to change the section in List of Apollo astronauts to a summary of List of people who have walked on the Moon. It is redundant because that is where the list originally came from. I always thought it was weird that the list was embedded in a section for Apollo astronauts. I am fine with you opposing it at its eventual nomination, this was more of a question on the possibility of featuring it on July 21, if it becomes a FL, so I can focus my time prior to the anniversary accordingly. Kees08 (Talk) 03:58, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

That makes no sense. The moonwalkers are all Apollo astronauts, so of course they'd be included on that list, what makes it weird? So the List of Apollo astronauts will only include those who didn't walk on the moon, with those twelve in a separate article? Or it'll still be redundant with an unnecessary split? Until someone in a future mission walks on the moon again, there's no purpose for that and I'm sure others would not see the need for it either. The same expansions such as images and other personal details could certainly be added to the Apollo list for the non-landers too, and that's a section I could contribute to as well. Reywas92^Talk 04:47, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

It seemed like a logical split to me. I could also put the List of Apollo astronauts into List of astronauts by name, but breaking it out into Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo is a logical break, so they each have their own list. I find myself linking to List_of_Apollo_astronauts#Apollo_astronauts_who_walked_on_the_Moon far more than I need to link to List_of_Apollo_astronauts, and since it can easily be a standalone list, it seemed like a good break. Anyways, this is a bit off-topic; I would be happy to discuss further on the talk page of either article if you would like. Kees08 (Talk) 05:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'm looking forward to how these would turn out regardless, seeing your good work on the astronauts' articles. Reywas92^Talk 06:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

For alternative Main Pages

Is there a way to have the featured list remain on my personal alternative Main Page until the next FL is posted? --Khajidha (talk) 12:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The "requests" page

I stumbled upon this page and was wondering if it still has any purpose. It says that it's a "proposed" process, but the last edit to the page was in 2013. If it's no longer relevant, I think it should be redirected to the actual submissions page and its subpages redirected or deleted as appropriate. I note also that this was brought up five years ago above, but to no avail. RAVENPVFF | talk ~ 14:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Having just come back from a long period in which I wasn't too active, I just saw that you did redirect the page. Thanks for doing that. The old requests page hadn't been used in years, and the established submissions page is where we should be directing new blurb proposals. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Workshopping a proposal for a new user group

Valereee and I have been working on a proposal to form a new usergroup whose members would be able to edit content on the main page or its fully protected subsidiaries. Since it directly affects this project, and is based in part on the shortage of administrators working here, we would like to invite feedback on the proposal at User talk:Vanamonde93/Main page editor‎. The proposal itself is at User:Vanamonde93/Main page editor‎. In particular, we would like to hear it if you are opposed to the whole thing on principle, because in that case we would rather spend our time promoting queues than in organizing a large-scale RfC. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 06:56, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Proposal of interest

Watchers of this talk page may be interested in this proposal about creating a new usergroup for main page edits. This is the same proposal on which opinions were solicited here some months ago. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

List of Holocaust transports from Slovakia

@Giants2008: I was hoping to have this list appear with The Holocaust in Slovakia which is at FAC. Furthermore, I was hoping to run both of them on 9 September, which is when this event is commemmorated in Slovakia. What do you think about that? buidhe 22:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe: Unfortunately it won't be possible for us to run the list on that date, since September 9 is a Wednesday and TFL only appears on Mondays and Fridays. If there is a different date of relevance to the list that you'd like to run the list, or if you just want to hold it back, please let me know and I'll be happy to make the change. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Continuing 2019 TFAs

• 1 Siege of Aiguillon
• 2 Jørgen Jensen (soldier)
• 3 Killdeer
• 4 Roberto Luongo
• 5 Live and Let Die (novel)
• 6 Rogožarski IK-3
• 7 Sabre Wulf
• 8 Billy Martin
• 9 Planet Nine
• 10 Fall of Kampala
• 11 Satellite Science Fiction
• 12 Allison Guyot
• 13 Joe Hewitt (RAAF officer)
• 14 History of Tottenham Hotspur F.C.
• 15 Cadaver Tomb of René of Chalon
• 16 French battleship Courbet (1911)
• 17 Eliza Acton
• 18 Sissinghurst Castle Garden
• 19 Irritator
• 20 Ontario Highway 420
• 21 Benty Grange helmet
• 22 Lynchburg Sesquicentennial half dollar
• 23 Marjorie Cameron
• 24 Æthelberht, King of Wessex
• 25 Alodia
• 26 Gothic boxwood miniature
• 27 Teresa Sampsonia
• 28 Pyramid of Unas
• 29 Jeremy Thorpe
• 30 Pitta
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 02:25, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

May:

• 1 Green Park tube station,
• 2 Pyramid of Unas
• 3 Scientific Detective Monthly
• 4 Tropical Storm Nicole (2010)
• 5 SMS Grosser Kurfürst (1913),
• 6 Bobby Gibbes,
• 7 Harta Berdarah,
• 8 Myst III: Exile,
• 9 Maine Centennial half dollar,
• 10 Faces (Star Trek: Voyager),
• 11 Paranthodon
• 12 Jules Massenet,
• 13 Interstate 94 in Michigan,
• 14 Faryl Smith,
• 15 Tropical Depression Nineteen-E (2018)
• 16 William H. Seward,
• 17 Edward II of England,
• 18 Ludwigsburg Palace,
• 19 United States Senate Democratic primary election in Pennsylvania, 2010,
• 20 Homer Davenport,
• 21 Title TK,
• 22 Cortinarius violaceus
• 23 Donner Party,
• 24 Ashton-under-Lyne,
• 25 Crawford expedition,
• 26 History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961–present),
• 27 Arthur Mold,
• 28 Black stork
• 29 State Route 74 (New York–Vermont)
• 30 Scarlett Johansson
• 31 Good Girl Gone Bad,
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 18:39, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

June:

• 1 Cleopatra,
• 2 Gioachino Rossini,
• 3 Kaiman-class torpedo boat,
• 4 Droxford railway station,
• 5 Black mamba,
• 6 Smythe's Megalith,
• 7 History of aluminium,
• 8 Kim Clijsters.
• 9 Round the Horne,
• 10 Mukhtar al-Thaqafi.
• 11 Cyclone Raja.
• 12 RSPB Dearne Valley Old Moor.
• 13 Newberry Volcano
• 14 Ice (The X-Files).
• 15 Adam Eckfeldt,
• 16 Gallimimus.
• 17 North-Eastern Area Command,
• 18 Astronomica (Manilius),
• 19 Knight Lore.
• 20 Echo parakeet
• 21 Irakli Tsereteli
• 22 SOLRAD 1.
• 23 Christgau's Record Guide: Rock Albums of the Seventies.
• 24 1962 Tour de France,
• 25 Raymond Leane.
• 26 1907 Tiflis bank robbery,
• 27 Coprinellus micaceus.
• 28 Norfolk, Virginia, Bicentennial half dollar,
• 29 Crater (constellation).
• 30 Scoops (magazine).
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 20:08, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

July: (but note the ongoing RfC at WT:TFA#RfC: Apollo 11) - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 16:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

• 1 British National (Overseas)
• 2 1991 Atlantic hurricane season
• 3 Franz Kafka
• 4 1927 Chicago mayoral election
• 5 Eve Russell
• 6 Yellow-tailed black cockatoo
• 7 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 13:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
• 8 James B. McCreary
• 9 Yugoslav monitor Vardar
• 10 Humphrey Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham
• 11 Istiodactylus
• 12 Manchester Cenotaph
• 13 Stan Coveleski
• 14 Science Fiction Quarterly
• 15 Noronhomys
• 16 Tutupaca
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 21:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• 17 The Legend of Bhagat Singh
• 18 Central Link
• 19 Banksia lemanniana
• 20 Siege of Berwick (1333)
• 21 Neil Armstrong
• 22 William Harper (Rhodesian politician)
• 23 Coinage Act of 1965
• 24 History of the Office of the Inspector General of the United States Army
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 19:45, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
• 25 Orpheus in the Underworld
• 26 Ralph Neville
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 17:45, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
• 27 Kediri campaign (1678)
• 28 1989 Tour de France
• 29 Red-throated loon
• 30 Horncastle boar's head— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 17:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
• 31 Henry W. Sawyer
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 16:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

August:

• 1 Touch Me I'm Sick
• 2 Japanese aircraft carrier Ryūjō
• 3 The Truth (The X-Files)
• 4 Death of Ms Dhu
• 5 Stephen, King of England
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 19:48, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
• 6 Analog Science Fiction and Fact
• 7 Siberian accentor
• 8 Portrait Diptych of Dürer's Parents
• 9 Gadsden Purchase half dollar
• 10 Keswick, Cumbria
• 11 European hare
• 12 Hurricane Nadine
• 13 Henry Burrell (admiral)
• 14 Sega Genesis
• 15 Bernard Fanning
• 16 Kalidas (film)
• 17 Paraceratherium
• 18 Trafford Park
• 19 Australia women's national wheelchair basketball team at the 2012 Summer Paralympics
• 20 Marchioness disaster
• 21 Hillary Clinton
• 22 Operation Goodwood (naval)
• 23 Taylor Swift
• 24 Battle of Blanchetaque
• 25 Richie Farmer
• 26 Alabama Centennial half dollar
• 27 William Hayden English
• 28 Vesna Vulović
• 29 All Money Is Legal
• 30 Tropical Storm Faxai (2007)
• 31 Taxonomy of lemurs
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 19:38, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

September

• 1 The Mummy (1999 film)
• 2 Lawrence Weathers
• 3 The Breeders Tour 2014
• 4 Sasha (DJ)
• 5 1950 United States Senate election in California
• 6 Effects of Hurricane Isabel in Delaware
• 7 George Hirst
• 8 Wipeout 3
• 9 Ambondro mahabo
• 10 John J. Crittenden
• 11 The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson
• 12 Lancaster's chevauchée of 1346
• 13 Tahiti rail
• 14 Thomas F. Mulledy
• 15 Operation Paravane
• 16 Kevin Beattie
• 17 Harriet Tubman
• 18 James Park Woods
• 19 Suillus bovinus
• 20 Sutton Hoo Helmet (sculpture)
• 21 Herbig–Haro object
• 22 Ashcan copy
• 23 The Shawshank Redemption
• 24 Edmontosaurus mummy AMNH 5060
• 25 SOLRAD 2
• 26 Louisiana Purchase Sesquicentennial half dollar
• 27 Mount Mazama
• 28 Ray Emery**— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 23:47, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
• 29 Chartwell**— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 23:46 August 2019 (UTC)
• 30 IFF Mark II**— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 21:26, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

October

• 1 Simon Hatley
• 2 India
• 3 Michael Hordern
• 4 Saint Francis Receiving the Stigmata (van Eyck)
• 5 Kate Winslet
• 6 Barge of the Dead
• 7 Poitevin horse
• 8 Yellow-faced honeyeater
• 9 Horizon Guyot
• 10 Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire)
• 11 Douglas Albert Munro
• 12 William de Corbeil
• 13 Banksia caleyi
• 14 Senghenydd colliery disaster
• 15 Al-Mu'tadid
• 16 McKinley Birthplace Memorial gold dollar
• 17 Battle of Neville's Cross
• 18 Coterel gang
• 19 Fred Keenor
• 20 Meteorological history of Hurricane Patricia
• 21 Ursula K. Le Guin
• 22 Megabat
• 23 Russian battleship Retvizan
• 24 Distributed element circuit
• 25 Science Fantasy (magazine)
• 26 Jaekelopterus
• 27 Sandringham House
• 28 Rodrigues solitaire
• 29 Operation Obviate
• 30 Sorga Ka Toedjoe
• 31 Michael Collins (astronaut)
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• November
• 1 No Such Thing as Vampires
• 2 McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet in Australian service
• 3 Parinda
• 4 Cretoxyrhina
• 5 Guy Fawkes
• 6 Digital media use and mental health
• 7 Second Fitna
• 8 Letter-winged kite
• 9 Early history of Gowa and Talloq
• 10 Mary Bell (aviator)
• 11 Northampton War Memorial
• 12 Operation Catechism
• 13 Atlanersa
• 14 Bernard Hinault
• 15 No. 33 Squadron RAAF
• 16 Bramshill House
• 17 HMS Royal Oak (08)
• 18 Cardiff City F.C.
• 19 Odaenathus
• 20 1969 Curaçao uprising
• 21 Cut the Crap
• 22 Donkey Kong 64
• 23 Yugoslav torpedo boat T7
• 24 Spinophorosaurus
• 25 ?
• 26 Littlemore Priory scandals
• 27 Caroline Brady (philologist)
• 28 Pilgrim Tercentenary half dollar
• 29 Ray Emery
• 30 Jean-François-Marie de Surville
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 23:57, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

December

• 1 Banksia marginata
• 2 USS Chesapeake (1799)
• 3 2005 ACC Championship Game
• 4 Sloan–Parker House
• 5 Jacobus Anthonie Meessen
• 6 Hurricane Connie
• 7 Aquaria (video game)
• 8 Project Rover
• 9 Emanuel Moravec
• 10 Limalok
• 11 You Only Move Twice
• 12 South Lake Union Streetcar
• 13 Kenora Thistles
• 14 Keldholme Priory election dispute
• 15 Interstate 696
• 16 Maria Rundell
• 17 Gascon campaign of 1345
• 18 Super Science Stories
• 19 It Is the Law
• 20 Brothers Poem
• 21 Kal Ho Naa Ho
• 22 Maryland Tercentenary half dollar
• 23 Arthur Gilligan
• 24 Frank Borman
• 25 Charles H. Stonestreet
• 26 A Rugrats Kwanzaa
• 27 Salih ibn Mirdas
• 28 Beaune Altarpiece
• 29 Red-tailed tropicbird
• 30 The Turn of the Screw (2009 film)
• 31 Turbinellus floccosus
  • — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dank (talk • contribs) 01:45, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Proposed change to format of featured topics

Currently, TFA and TFL present featured topics in different ways – some months ago, TFA was changed to incorporate featured topics into the bracketed phrase at the end of the blurb, while TFL still maintains the old practice of a separate line underneath the blurb. To bring this in line with TFA, I've created {{TFLfull}}, which uses the existing structure of {{TFLcontent}} to produce the proper text to go at the end of the blurb, providing support for up to two featured topics and custom link text if necessary; you can check the new template's documentation to get an idea of how it works and take a look at the testcases page to see the impact of this change. I've made an edit request at the {{TFLcontent}} talk page to implement it. Please let me know if you have any concerns or suggestions. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 03:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

The Blurb of a Thousand Characters...

I'm not very experienced with Lists and such but was thinking of submitting List of racing cyclists and pacemakers with a cycling-related death for a TFL slot. Short of counting each individual letter/number is there a Wiki-tool that can count the characters in a blurb? I am working on a possible blurb for the possible TFL submission and have tried to count the characters a couple of times but keep on losing count... Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 01:23, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

There are websites like https://mothereff.in/byte-counter Art LaPella (talk) 03:49, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Seattle

In the map for Wikipedia:Today's featured list/October 9, 2020, Seattle should be further west. Seattle is actually a port city, and it doesn't extend that far inland. This map shows Seattle's true position in King County. Art LaPella (talk) 03:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Fixed Art LaPella (talk) 15:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Image

Should images embedded in the TFL be also used in the article? Like, say, I have a TFL/R with Example.jpg, should Example.jpg be also featured in the article itself? GeraldWL 05:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Blurb without TFL template

@WP:FLC director and delegates: I wish to nominate "List of marches composed by John Philip Sousa" for TFL on Monday, July 4, 2022. Can I nominate list in that advance. Secondly, I wish to create a blurb without using the TFL Template, as I want to include both an image and a media file with the blurb. (See here) Is it possible, as an image and audio file together has been previously on January 20, 2013, in TFA. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:27, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Centralized discussion

I made a proposal at the Village pump idea lab that may or may not involve TFL—feel free to participate and suggest ideas! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

TFL March 6th scheduling for List of Symphyotrichum species

@Giants2008: Would it be possible to reschedule the TFL of List of Symphyotrichum species from March 6th to late August or early September? I ask because nearly all species in this genus bloom in North American late summer and autumn (August through November, depending on location and weather). – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 22:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

@Eewilson: No problem. Sorry I haven't been able to respond here or on my talk page (things have gotten crazy for me in real life lately), but I'll pick another list for the March 6 spot next time I get a chance. I was going to do it today, but I had to instead fill a hole for the March 10 slot. It will be done soon, though. Hopefully I'll remember this in August/September. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:22, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

@Giants2008: Thank you! – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 04:19, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Max submissions at WP:TFL/S

Currently, there are 15 listed submissions for TFL. The page says there should be no more than fifteen nominations listed here at any one time (emphasis included), so should we enforce this cap strictly? And if so, do we remove existing submissions or new ones as they appear? RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I feel like the List of Coppa Italia finals should be removed from the submissions list because the nominator has not written a proper blurb if the list gets posted on the Main Page. Furthermore, the nominator has not proposed an alternative date for the list since he also suggested that List of Italy national football team hat-tricks be posted on May 15. He wants it on May 26, but having two football/soccer related lists close to one another seems a bit awkward. There should at least be some variety in lists per month.

Also, he nominated List of international goals scored by Haasan Maatouk for a Main Page appearance for January 27, but that date has passed. In addition, the blurb is written in two paragraphs unlike the normal standard one paragraph. I'd suggest that nomination be also removed until he revises the blurb or agrees on having the blurb modified by one of us experienced nominators.

Finally, Chompy Ace has been nominating lists to appear on the Main Page quite a lot. In fact, a few of them are for dates more than six months into the future (and one of them is for May 2024, or one full year). I feel like there should be a cap on the number of nominations per user AND that submissions for specific dates should be posted only for a six-month range. I had to post up a blurb for the 76th Academy Awards since I was afraid that Chompy Ace might nominate too many lists and I might miss the intended 20 year gap between ceremonies (i.e. The 76th ceremony being posted in relation to the 96th ceremony). That's just my two cents.

--Birdienest81talk 08:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I think that proposing a time limit for submissions is reasonable – hopefully, limiting how far in advance submissions can be added would also limit how many a specific person adds? I'd also be curious to hear from Chompy Ace about their submissions. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:23, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Agreed so it can be reduced to 2010s-esque process. Also, I have reduced to eleven submissions, including ones for two removed by me. Chompy Ace 08:43, 28 April 2023 (UTC)