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October 5

What is that (+11) or (-217) next to the article name under the watchlist?

Never mind; it is the change of number of bytes in the article.

How do I control drawing a box around text?

I'm editing an article (in a local Wiki, not Wikipedia) and some of the text has a dashed-line box drawn around it. After staring at the editing box a while, I finally figured out that starting a line with a space causes a dashed box to be drawn around it. But the text is running off the right side of the box (and beyond the right edge of the viewport too), rather than line-wrapping as I think it should.

Is there a way to draw a box around text but still have it auto-wrap to fit in the available width? Or do I have to force line breaks and make assumptions about how wide the viewer's window will be? Bgoldnyxnet 00:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You can make a table with a single cell containing the text. That is what I did here. You can choose between many table formatting options and make a template if you want to use the same format multiple times. The dashed boxes when starting with a space are intentionally not line-wrapping. PrimeHunter 00:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Working with that same design, you can also set the width of the table to a certain percentage of the page - adding width="40%", for example, creates a much smaller box, as you can see here. That way you don't have to guess at the screen size - the computer figures it out for you.

Table with a relative width

Ta-da.

Help:Table can give you some more information about how to format your tables better. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Or use this simple style <pre style="width: 95%">Blah blah blah

--antilived^{T | C | G} 03:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't line-wrap. PrimeHunter 09:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Personally I'd use a <div> with CSS styles.

<div style="border: 2px solid grey padding: 1em">Lorem ipsum dolor
 sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt
 ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud
 exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis
 aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu
 fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt
 in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.</div>

gives

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

--Kjoonlee 16:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

--Kjoonlee 16:43, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries

--Hmb 00:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC) hi whow can change the title of a contribution thanks

Nope, sorry. Edit summaries are set in stone as soon as you make an edit. Chaos would ensue if people could :p Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmb didn't say edit summaries [1] and may have an article name in mind (specifically the just created DJA FM‎). Accounts that are at least 4 days old can move an article to another name. Which move do you want? PrimeHunter 00:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I recently moved this article from Dja fm to DJA FM, per WP:NAME. Did I make a mistake? --Agüeybaná 01:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks OK to me. I didn't find "Dja fm" with Google. "Dja FM" and "DJA FM" both appear common. PrimeHunter 10:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Changing my wikipedia username away from my email address

I inadvertently created my email address as my wikipedia login. I want to change and don't understand the instructions on how to do this. Please help. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henry vehovec@mindfirst.com (talk • contribs) 00:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a specific problem with the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username? PrimeHunter 00:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Note that the request must be made at Wikipedia:Changing username which contains this link to make it. The people with ability to change your name will not see the request on your talk page. PrimeHunter 01:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Refs

Can someone please help change the the 2nd and 10th reference here to look like the 8th ref. (I want the words to replace the the url adress while linking to it) I seem to be unable to do that for some reason. Thanks Aeuio 01:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I have fixed them by removing the linebreak they contained. PrimeHunter 01:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. (I couldn't see the line break on my screen, it looked like a normal new row to me) Aeuio 01:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Daoism

What are the ethics and morality of Daoism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.104.231 (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Daoism. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"Social inequality" page

The page Social inequality is a redirect to List of social inequalities, which as you can see doesn't exist. I'm not sure what the best way to fix this is -- I found it though a discussion of Marx's views of religion, but there are around 100 pages with a wide variety that have a link there, and I'm not knowledgeable enough with the literature to be able to write up anything decent. (It's been in this shape since it created in June 2006.)--BlackAndy 01:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

That would be a candidate for speedy deletion by Criteria R1: Redirects to deleted pages and to nonexistent pages. It's gone now, but that's for future reference. :) --Moonriddengirl 02:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much, and noted.:) ----BlackAndy 02:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Searching photos and diagrams

Is there a method to search and browse the photos used in Wikipedia, similar to that used in the Commons?KTo288 02:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Not easily. This link will give you a list of all images on Wikipedia, but in alphabetic order, so it's not the most efficient for searching for a particular subject. Some images are also listed at Category:Wikipedia images or one of the subcategories, which should be a little easier to search through, but it's by no means all-inclusive. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you'KTo288 02:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe that if you type a namespace into the search box, along with a search term, it will actually search that namespace (or give a remarkable facsimile of doing so). So, for example, try searching for (without quotes) "Image: hubble" to get all the images whose name or description includes "hubble". Confusing Manifestation 04:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

How to add other languages to a page if i want to translate them

I am a spanish-english linguist, and I am curious how to add spanish/english pages that mirror a previously written page in the other language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.63.207 (talk) 03:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Transl. --Teratornis 03:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Spanish Translation of the Week. If you are not familiar with our WikiProjects, see: WP:PROJGUIDE. --Teratornis 03:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Having done a number of Spanish to English article translations (an example), I found the best method for finding good candidates is to look at articles tagged with {{FAOL}} for Spanish, which places them in Category:Wikipedia featured articles in other languages (Spanish). For more good candidates, you can explore the Spanish Wikipedia's equivalent of our featured article candidates page, at Es:Wikipedia:Candidatos a artículos destacados. Please feel free to drop by my talk page if you need any technical help with an article you are or wish to translate, such as with formatting, converting references, and the like.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What is the difference between these two images?

Why is Image:17_lachey_360x240.jpg a candidate for speedy deletion? I've listed where it came from. It is no different than Image:Ricedwts.jpg because they both come from the same website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by And1987 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Both images need fair use rationales. You really shouldn't have taken off the speedy deletion template without rectifying the problem. Leebo ^T/C 04:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What to do when falsely accused?

Today, for the second time, I have received a notice to STOP VANDALIZING Wikipedia, or I will be barred from editing Wikipedia.

My sole contribution is a pie crust edit in March of 2006.

The notion of labeling a pie crust edit as “vandalism” is beyond the pale.

I view Wikipedia is an excellent first source of information, and would never harm such a valuable resource. I do not speak or write in vulgarisms, and do not curse. I have never, knowingly, posted inaccurate information. More importantly, I know the difference between fact and opinion.

For reasons that I do not understand, a nameless and faceless (and overzealous) accuser is threatening to end my rights to edit Wikipedia, although I have done nothing to him/her(or to Wikipedia) past breathing and minding my own business.

Our Founding Fathers included the right to face one’s accuser and the right to examine evidence.

The “user talk” # was 4.242.195.137.

Please let me know how to defend myself against these false accusations.

Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suttonplacesouth (talk • contribs) 04:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

No one's posted you any messages. 4.242.195.137 hasn't made any edits since the middle of September. —Ignatzmice^talk_contribs 04:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you trying to say that User talk:4.242.195.137 was the IP address you were using? Did you consider the possibility that the IP address is shared and the message was not meant for you? Leebo ^T/C 04:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Mice: That is precisely my point. I haven't made an edit for 18 months (since March of '06) so I don't understand why anything would show any "edits since the middle of September." There is no doubt they have the wrong person; the notion of vandalism is preposterous.

Leebo: I do not know what a "shared IP address" means. This is my own computer in my own house and I don't "share" anything with anyone. I assume that when I log in with my name and password, that the name and address listed as mine, is for me and no one else. How could it have "not been for me" if it was on my computer? Thanks for advice on how to get this person to stop scolding me and find the actual person who is vandalizing.

As to where that number came from, I'll be more specific. Today, at about noon, I was looking for something on Wikipedia and I noticed a "message alert" (I used Wikipedia late last night and there was no message at that time). When I clicked to get the message, I was taken to “talk page # 4.242.195.137" (which I wrote down so I could get back to it, because sometimes I have a "nervous finger" and accidentally click off), but now I find that I don’t even know how to get back to the page where I can “plug in” a page number. The person who signed the order to "STOP VANDALIZING or else. . . . " had a one word screen name, but I don’t remember what it was, and I can’t get back to the page number, to see what his/her name was. I do not know who owns that page or number (# 4.242.195.137) but it is not familiar to me. Anyway, I was upset for being threatened, and tried to figure out what to do, and went “noodling” around, trying to find someone who could help me, but then I couldn’t get back to the Wikipedia “talk pages” to get back to that page again. Eventually I found THIS topic page. But, now I'm realizing that even if I find the person who is "reporting" me as vandalizing, I don't know how to get him to back off and go after the real vandals, since I don't know what he is looking at. Somehow, he has me confused with someone else, but I can't figure out how that is possible. Certainly our names and email addresses are separate, aren't they? IOW, there can't be another person who has my screen name and email address the same as mine, so what is this guy/gal looking at, to send incorrect messages to me, saying that I am vandalizing when, in fact, I’m not even editing, let alone vandalizing? Thanks again; I'm befuddled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suttonplacesouth (talk • contribs) 08:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

OK here's what happened: when you saw that message, you weren't logged in. Your internet provider allocates you an Internet Protocol address (IP), and that's the number that Wikipedia uses to identify you if you aren't logged in. The vandalism warning was recorded against that IP address, which your internet provider had probably assigned to someone else last week. In other words, the warning wasn't addressed to you, and the message probably needs to be clarified to make this clear in the case of IP addresses. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's likely that a dynamic IP addressing system is being used by your ISP. You can stop these messages by creating an account as you have done so (unless, of course, you vandalise on that account). x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The message in question is from 2005, Suttonplacesouth just got confused by a message that was meant for someone else 2 years ago because his IP address changed. Leebo ^T/C 12:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Embedding videos on Wikipedia (Please WB ASAP!!!)

Is there a chance that we may soon be able to embed videos from YouTube, LiveDigital, Google Video and other sites on Wikipedia articles??? WIKIVUE Detroit (talk) FRI OCT 05 2007 12:33 AM EDT

Probably no.Kfc1864 talk _{my edits} 05:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has never used links to media hosted elsewhere, if it's free content then it can be hosted on Wikimedia servers. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

However, in the cases when it's appropriate to link to a YouTube video as a reference, there is the {{YouTube}} template. The content may be legal on YouTube, but not sufficiently free for us to have it on our servers. Thus we just link it. Just don't link to copyright violations. --Pekaje 10:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean like this? The MediaWiki software can embed videos using extensions such as mw:Extension:VideoFlash, mw:Extension:YouTube (Iubito), and mw:Extension:EmbedVideo. See: mw:Extension:VideoFlash#Wikis using videoflash for some wikis that let you embed videos. Perhaps you can use one of them as an outlet for your urge to embed videos on wiki pages. Wikipedia tends to be a bit stodgy about providing such capabilities, because after all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as I recall from my days of childhood, encyclopedias were not exactly cool. When I told my peers that I used to read the encyclopedia, they rolled their eyes and mocked me. How remarkable that an encyclopedia today can actually be trendy. I suppose that in light of Moore's law, the Revenge of the Nerds is inevitable. --Teratornis 13:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Braddock, PA article

The link to the Braddock Carnegie Library should be www.braddocklibrary.org

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.167.3.95 (talk) 04:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). PrimeHunter 09:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

How to view and edit pages in malayalam wiki?

when i open pages in malayalam wiki i am not able to see the script what software i need to install ---from where to download it. i am a new user can any body help me out —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowrikutty (talk • contribs) 04:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Help:Multilingual support (Indic) should help. - BanyanTree 10:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I recover my user name

I had a mental block and couldn't remember my password, so I clicked on the option to email me a new one. then remembered I had changed my email address a short while ago, hadn't updated to the new one on wiki and the new password email will have bounced. so now I am completely stuck. Any suggestions of how I can get to someone, prove I'm who I say I am, change the email to my new address and continue with my user name? I like it so much I don't want to start all over with a new one just because of a minute of brain fade. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.28.49 (talk) 06:28, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Help:Logging in#What if I forget the password? says you have to create a new account. You can link to the old account on a new user page. PrimeHunter 09:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have any way to access the old email account, you could just send a new password reminder after regaining access (you may have to wait 24 hours first if you do this). Otherwise, it's unlikely that you'll be able to regain access to the account, because it's very difficult to demonstrate your identity. --ais523 12:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The new password doesn't invalidate your old password. --Kjoonlee 16:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

adding in peer revieew

Can anyone help me out in adding my image in peer review? --Cj.samson 06:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

advertising

i am a marketing major and was wondering about how to find time to speak with people on how to promote my ideas of drunk driving commercials to the government agencies who create the driving responsibly commercials, if you could give me a website or anything it would be of great help.

Thanks, 72.177.104.29 07:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia is not a soapbox for advertising purposes. That said, it would be best if you directed your question to the reference desk. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you want to write pages on a wiki as part of your promotional strategy? That is not clear from your question. If you do, then you should look for another wiki which does accept promotional material. --Teratornis 15:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Starting an article

If you have a notable subject you want to write an article about like say a play, if you were the writer of the play, can you still write an article about it? ~ Bella Swan 13:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, what's the subject you want to talk about? Martial BACQUET 13:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia discourages people from writing about things for which they are heavily involved, as it can be difficult to create a neutral article (cf conflict of interest). Creating something like a simple dictionary definition wouldn't be a problem. --h2g2bob (talk) 13:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys. WP:COI was exactly what I needed. Regards ~ Bella Swan 21:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Current version

I modified an article, and my changes are shown in the 'current version'

However, when I look for the article from the 'search' box, it shows an earlier version. To find the current version I have to go to 'history' and click on the current version.

Shouldn't the search engine direct you to the current version automaticaly?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.64.200.73 (talk) 14:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The search function always takes you to the current version. You probably have to bypass your cache. A click on the most recent version in the history gives a permanent link to that version and has a different URL to the live article so your cache don't treat the two URL's the same. PrimeHunter 14:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Transclude a list of articles in a category?

This is more of general Mediawiki question, but is it possible to transclude the list of articles that are contained in a given category? TIA... jddphd (talk · contribs) 14:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

See mw:Extension:CategoryTree for instructions. An example and code for it:

Wikipedia Adopt-a-user

Help desk archives

Wikipedia Teahouse

Wikipedia village pump

Wikipedians looking for help

Wikipedians looking for help from administrators

Wikipedians looking for help with UTRS

Wikipedians with misplaced help messages

Wikipedia:Questions

Wikipedia:Admin coaching

Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk

Wikipedia:Coaching

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Computing/Early

Wikipedia:Editor assistance

Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests

Wikipedia:Help desk

Wikipedia:Help desk/Header/sandbox

Wikipedia:Instructional material

Wikipedia:IRC

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Mattermost

Wikipedia:IRC/Channel access and configuration guide

Wikipedia:Lectures

Wikipedia:Mailing lists

Wikipedia:Media copyright questions

Wikipedia:Mentoring for FAC

Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/questions

Wikipedia:Reference desk

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science

Wikipedia:Teahouse

Wikipedia:Teahouse/About

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guest lft

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Left column

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Right column

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Header/testcases

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host breakroom

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host checkin about

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host lounge/Category guide

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host lounge/User scripts

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host start

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts/Database reports

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Hosts/Database reports/Automated invites

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions-recent

Wikipedia:Teahouse/Suggestions

Wikipedia:Teahouse/The menu

Wikipedia:Teahouse/WikiProjects

Wikipedia:Village pump

Wikipedia:WikiProject Cooperation/Paid editor help

{{#categorytree:Wikipedia help forums|hideroot|mode=pages}}

Hope that helps! --ais523 14:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

white tiger wikipedia article

Dear Wikipedia: Any change I make to the white tiger article is being deleted within minutes or hours. Also somebody other than myself made a significant contribution to the article by explaining the connection with tyrosinase and white tigers and Siamese cats getting darker in cold. This tied in beautifully with why white tigers react strangely to anaesthesia. Lots of other solid factual information has been deleted and characterized as vandalism. I'll give you another example. I wrote that mice have been inbred brother to sister for 150 generations without ill effect, but they end up 99.999% genetically identical. I included this line in the section on inbreeding more than once. It has been deleted within minutes or hours by some ignorant person. I have added lots of information to a great many wikipedia articles. I have not had any problems before. Now anything I write is deleted and I see that what another person contributed, about tyrosinase, which greatly improved the article ( that was'nt me who wrote it, but I wish I could take credit for it) naturally disappeared within less than 24 hours and the article reverted to the previous much less informative version. I think I will just stop working on wikipedia articles. It's too frustrating when a lot of good effort is flushed down the toilet by Phillistines or Neanderthals. Somebody called CambridgeBayWeather has been largely responsible, but not him exclusively. Please fire these peoople or block them. They are destroying wikipedia. They are dumbing everything down to their own level. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.195.4 (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently CambridgeBayWeather has reverted some unsourced edits. That is unlikely to lead to a block. If you give reliable sources to your edits then they are more likely to be accepted by other editors. See also Wikipedia:Verifiability. The best place to discuss the article is Talk:White tiger. If that doesn't work out then see other options at Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. PrimeHunter 15:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Sen. Brownback's page

I was just wanting to change the election information. There is a bit of it that is not truthful and that does not cite any sources. can you help me in how to change it? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tfunk198605 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Just go to the page and click the "edit this page" tab at the top. You can take out unsourced information, but be sure to cite sources if you add any new information. Leebo ^T/C 16:03, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

ancient writtings

while hunting i stumbled on a small boxed canyon in the far n. corner nev. i found some very old writings. i drew them on paper. i saw no real disturbance of encroachment of human actievty. an thought it odd, maybe a new find ? dought that. so who would i contact?im not a student just some old guy asking questions. maybe you could direct me in the right direction. thankyou dc reno —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.78.17.231 (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Wikipedia. Perhaps someone at the reference desk could point you in the right direction. Leebo ^T/C 16:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

For general background, see: petroglyph and rock art. If by "nev." you mean Nevada, you might contact the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. --Teratornis 11:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

editing problems

Insert non-formatted text here

Do you have a question? --ais523 18:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

editing problems

HOW DO YOU EDIT A PAGE WITHOUT AN [edit] BUTTON NEARBY?!?!?!?!?!!????? can anyone answer me that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.228.94.19 (talk) 18:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Use the 'edit this page' tab on top of the page. --ais523 18:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you don't have an Edit button, you may be working with an old version of the page. Make sure you're on the correct one before using the tab at the top.--SarekOfVulcan 18:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Somehow the user was able to edit this very page to ask his question, so how come he couldn't find the "edit this page" button on other pages? My guess is that he was trying to edit a page that was protected and instead had a "view source" button. Sbowers3 23:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the revision history for this ip's first edit here. it has a greyed out message, meaning he or she clicked on an [edit] tab beside a section header, which is exactly consistent with the question asked, and his or her's lack of knowledge of the edit this page tab.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't "casinos" link to the Casino article?

Most people searching for "casinos" would be looking for an article about casinos. I doubt as many users would be searching for the municipality of Casinos, Valencia, so there doesn't seem to be much use in having a disambiguation here. 172.213.140.182 19:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Every plural that I can think of redirects to the singular for common terms. Casinos just happens to have an alternate meaning, therefore the disambiguation is put in. Dismas|^(talk) 19:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Collins page

Hi, I just added a page for Brian Collins and linked it to the Massachusetts College of Art page under Notable Alumni. However, when I click on the MassArt link for Brian's name, it redirects to a page called "internet Phenomena" Can you help please?

Thanks,

Jimmysmith100 19:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Collins is a redirect to the Internet phenomena article because there was no other notable individual with the name Brian Collins. If you want to create an article for this Brian Collins, you could probably create a disambiguation page for Brian Collins which links to both articles. Leebo ^T/C 19:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh wait... you created Brian collins with a lower case "c". Leebo ^T/C 19:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Collins is mentioned in the Internet phenomena article (see the Video section of the article). There was probably once an article about Collins but he was deemed non-notable, thus a redirect was put in for his only notable contribution to society. Dismas|^(talk) 19:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Why no images?

Today there are no images appearing in any page. Always have before. Still see images in other web sites. Is there a particular setting/preference in Wikipedia to view images?

Thanks Djidji6 21:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Figured it out myself. Djidji6 21:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Logging on

Your system refuses to log m,e on saying that I don't exist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.74.85.146 (talk) 22:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What Username are you trying to log on under? Woodym555 22:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

How to deal with Incorrect Redirection

When you type in 'Battle of Montreal' on the search box, you are directed to a list of items and it states that no page with that title exists. I recently did a report on the Battle of Montreal and have many sources gathered, so I would like to write a page, but there is already a page entitled Battle of Montreal, only it is an ambiguation page.

It comes with this message: This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.

How should I proceed? Should I just create a new article and not worry about the disambiguation page?

Rain1337 23:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The page does exist, it's Battle of Montreal. Even though it's not a standard "article", the page does indeed exist. But there are several things that may be referred to as the Battle of Montreal and each has its own article. If you would like to write about another battle which is known as the Battle of Montreal, then please do so under a different title but add a link to that article onto the list of the battles that are already listed. If your report is about one of the battles already listed, I would suggest adding your information to the appropriate sections of the article that already exists and not starting your own article about the same thing. Dismas|^(talk) 23:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

When did the battle you wish to write about take place? Woodym555 23:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am writing about another seperate battle known as the Battle of Montreal, which occurred on November 12, 1775, it is different than the other three battles. Thank you for your help, I will create a new article titled The Battle of Montreal and add it to the list of battles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rain1337 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You will have to create something along the lines of Battle of Montreal (1775) or a specific battle name if it had one. You cannot write one at Battle of Montreal because it is needed as a disambiguation page. Ask me on my talk page or on here if you need any help. Woodym555 23:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

New question: Battle of Montreal (1775) redirects you to the Battle of Longue-Pointe, will I mess anything up by editing the B o M 1775 page and taking off the redirection? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rain1337 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Is the Battle of Longue-Pointe not the article that you are looking to edit? If you are sure that they are not the same then click on the link under the page title on Battle of Longue-Pointe, under the "From Wikipedia..." it will say redirected from..., just edit that page over the redirect and create your article. Are you sure that they are different events. Woodym555 23:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am 99% positive, all the sources I've seen have completely different dates, commanders, and troops for the two battles. Thanks again for your help. --Rain1337 23:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure there was a real battle on November 12? Battle of Longue-Pointe is about a battle at Montreal on September 24 1775. The end says "In November, Montgomery occupied Montreal without firing a shot." I found sources saying Montreal was captured November 12 but they didn't mention a battle. PrimeHunter 00:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)