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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 07:21, 5 August 2008 [1].

List of Korean War Medal of Honor recipients edit

I have done a lot of work to this article since the last time it was submitted and I think that it meets the requirements to be a featured list.--Kumioko (talk) 01:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why does a list of recipients need an entire paragraph explaining the name of the war in three languages? --Golbez (talk) 05:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Done[reply]
I removed this paragraph entirely. It didn't really add anything to the article.--Kumioko (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • No bold links in the lead. done
    • Avoid starting with "This is a list..." featured articles don't start with "This is an article..." so we shouldn't either, be more imaginative.Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I did this because this is how most of the other lists start.--Kumioko (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yeah, I know. But it doesn't make it right. Please try to rephrase (some of the more recently promoted lists may help inspire you) so we capture the imagination of the reader from the word go! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:06, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "...external powers, with each trying to topple ..." this "each" is confused, is it the Koreans or the external powers? Done--Kumioko (talk) 00:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "In a very narrow sense, some may refer to it as a civil war, though many other factors were at play" not sure about this sentence at all - it's a little WP:OR, a little WP:POV. Perhaps it should be something like "The conflict has been referred to as a civil war..." plus citations to back it up "... while other factors ..." plus citations to back it up...Iremoved this sentence completely. Done--Kumioko (talk) 00:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Link North Korea the first time, not the second. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "After failing to strengthen their cause in the free elections held in South Korea during May 1950[2] and the refusal of South Korea to hold new elections per North Korean demands, the communist North Korean Army moved south on June 25, 1950 to attempt to reunite the Korean peninsula, which had been formally divided since 1948." several run-on clauses makes this confused.
    • Why link just the date for "June 25, 1950" and the whole thing for " July 27, 1953."? I can see the armistice date is important, so linking it all is acceptable but the first date, why? No good reason so I fixed it. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Don't put (ceasefire agreement) after armistice - wikilinks take care of that. Done--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "— the Korean Conflict — " no spaces when using em-dashes here. Done--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Echo Golbez, a large part of the lead seems to be related just to the name of the conflict rather than further details on the recipients of the medal. Done--Kumioko (talk) 17:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Medal of Honor is linked four times (incl the infobox) ... a bit over the top. Done--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I know you can't find images for everyone but just placing the medal there is a little odd.
    • A key would be useful for people who don't know what USMCR, USMC mean. In fact, you could talk a little about this in the lead, maybe going into how many of each branch recieved the medal.
    • Not sure how useful sorting on "Place of action" is, when you have free text like "along..." and "near..."
      • Removed near and along. If they are near the city or the river simply stating the name of the city should be adaquate. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Numbers below 10 are written as text. Done--Kumioko (talk) 17:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't see where this is, could you tell me where the problem here is?--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sudut's entry "Although wouned " - typo. Done--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Bleak's entry "admister " typo. Done--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Porter's entry "Was killed " - others just say stuff like "Killed..." without the Was.Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "George W. Bush March 3, 2008 [1]" link this properly with a {{cite web}} please.
    • "enemy MiG's" needs linking.Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • " occupied hill, Millett led" replace Millett with he for consistency.Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "The first Medal of Honor to be classified Top Secret" needs a citation/explanation.
    • Link POW.Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "to silence an enemy gun emplacement" what did he actually do to "silence" it?
    • "single handedly " should be hyphenated.
    • "Sacrificed his life to defeat an enemy bunker." no full stop. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Medical corpsman; aided many fallen soldiers under heavy fire." ditto. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Although wounded he refused medical care to fight the enemy until all his men and casualties had been taken care of." ditto. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "For falling on a grenade to save his squad." ditto. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • And that should probably be "Killed after falling..."
    • "Served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam War; In addition to the Medal of Honor he received 5 purple hearts." why is Korea linked here? and why capital I after semi-colon? and I would link to Purple Heart (and capitalise appropriately).
    • "For leading the rescue of a trapped rifle company." no full stop. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "raging combat " is this a quote? Otherwise it's peacock. Done--Kumioko (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "after single handedly covering " hyphenate again.
    • He was reported KIA, September 5, 1950." what makes this more significant than all the other entries? Surely the ones who were killed were reported KIA at some point too?
    • "to place demolitoin charges" typo.Done--Kumioko (talk) 17:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • " finish their objective" complete their objective?
    • Ref 5 needs correct formatting, pref using {{cite web}} Done--Kumioko (talk) 00:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ref 4, China's Peoples Daily is a work rather than a publisher, isn't it? Done--Kumioko (talk) 00:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ref 2, is "2,6,9." referring to page numbers? If so, I'd say "pp. 2, 6, 9" Done--Kumioko (talk) 00:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, and Coast Guardsmen " are they all really proper nouns?
    • "Medal Of Honor Statistics" no need to capitalise statistics here. done--Kumioko (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 07:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment about full stop - it's called full stop in Brit-Eng, period in US-eng and it's what goes at the end of complete sentences. You have a mixture of whether you put these "full stops" in or not. Be consistent. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Broader issue: Could we have a link to the previous nomination. This is standard procedure for some other Featured X discussions, is it not here as well? Rmhermen (talk) 22:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here you go Previous submission
  • Comment: Thanks for that link. I have a few issues:
    • The first paragraph is too short. The lead should say more about the subject of the list.
    • The actual village names are mostly unlinked. I couldn't determine why some were linked and others weren't. Even if there are red I think they should be linked
    • The word Korea is linked ever time it appears in the list (unlike other terms which are only linked on first occurence).
    • A broader issue, however, is since the list is sortable should every linked term be linked every time since the "first occurance" of the term will usually change for each sort order?
  • Rmhermen (talk) 14:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with a further comment
    • Looks very good overall. But when I sort by rank, John K. Koelsch, USN, Lieutenant, Junior Grade appears at the top of the list with the apparent lowest rank even though he is an officer. The "O-2" in his rank may have a zero instead of the letter O. Skeet Shooter (talk) 03:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks, I fixedit. Let me know if you have any more suggestions.--Kumioko (talk) 01:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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