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Austin Straubel

Hi-I deleted the material because there was no citations in the article. I mentioned that in the edit. You need to put citations in the article. That is the reason. Thank you-RFD (talk) 21:57, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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I was a little surprise when you called me about the Austin Straubel article. In a way it was nice to hear a voice of a fellow Wikipedian from Wisconsin. Okay-there are still problems with the Austin Straubel article. You did not added any citations. One of the editors warned you about copyright issues and that is also a concern in the article. The citations and editing in the Austin Straubel article are still needed. Thanks-RFD (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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Paul Brown

I have reverted your recent edit to the lead of Paul Brown. I have no doubt this edit was well-intentioned and agree that more of the negative aspects of Paul Brown's career ought to be included in the article. Having said that, Wikipedia must maintain a neutral point of view, and this edit slanted the lead almost entirely against the subject while removing most of his accomplishments and innovations. There is already some balance in the lead; the final paragraph says he was not universally liked and often had run-ins with players and with Art Modell. Perhaps we can discuss how to make a more constructive effort to balance the article further. Thanks much. --Batard0 (talk) 04:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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13:18, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Paul Brown was NOT worshipped by Vince Lombardi....Col Blake, General patton etc, were more influence,, General patton does not put on his page who worshipped Him neighter Does Jesus Christ .. There were many People involved with the hiring practices of Vince Lombardi .. as a matter of fact, Paul Brown told the Packers they would never get him to Green Bay , from the mara's and Paul Brown did not GIVE Players to Green Bay....THEY traded some castoffs for Billy Howton,who was recognized as the best receiver at the time in the NFL. Please do not write things that Paul brown is the reason of success or Mentor of Vince Lombardi., Yourtrying to paint a picture that this guy is the reason of success of others. when this is NOt true ...also Plase do not Lie with the NFL staistics,, as the NFL doesnt recognize the Stats of there early weakling League that couldnt survive. AAFC 1946-1949... Also corrected mistake of paul Brown Was coached for the 1964 NFl Champions Clevland Browns ..

13:19, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Paul Brown was NOT worshipped by Vince Lombardi.... There were many People involved with the hiring practices of Vince Lombardi .. as a matter of fact, Paul Brown told the Packers they would never get him to Green Bay , from the mara's and Paul Brown did not GIVE Players to Green Bay....THEY traded some castoffs for Billy Howton,who was recognized as the best receiver at the time in the NFL. Please do not write things that Paul brown is the reason of success or Mentor of Vince Lombardi., Yourtrying to paint a picture that this guy is the reason of success of others. when this is NOt true ...also Plase do not Lie with the NFL staistics,, as the NFL doesnt recognize the Stats of there early weakling League that couldnt survive. AAFC 1946-1949...

Paul Brown

I reverted a couple of your recent edits at Paul Brown. We shouldn't be removing information sourced to reliable sources without having a discussion of it. The cited source says:

"Most people don't know that Vince Lombardi worshipped Paul Brown. It was Brown who helped Lombardi become the head coach in Green Bay by recommending him to the Packers' owners. Brown often sent players to Lombardi, Players who couldn't help Cleveland, but players Brown believed were NFL caliber."

...and so forth. It appears from these edits that you want to downplay Paul Brown's achievements and significance, and I think other editors will agree completely on that if the proper sourcing is there to back it up. I would humbly suggest that it's not constructive, however, to simply remove sourced material and change the way career statistics are presented to make this point, if that is in fact what you are attempting here. In all instances, it's always best to have a conversation about these things before making any significant alterations. Thanks. --Batard0 (talk) 10:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Vince Lombardi NEVER worshipped Paul Brown ,,this user is trying to credit the success of Lombardi to be attributed to Paul Brown. Mr Brown was a back stabber, for his own Credit ,,, He Downplayed Bill Walsh of the 49ers,and prevented him from getting other positions … TYPICAL egotist, is paul Brown,

Paul Brown

I've reinstated some of the material you had repeatedly removed – the same material discussed in my note above. It's fine to take out anything that's not properly sourced under Wikipedia's guidelines or something where there's disputed sourcing, but it's always best to discuss it first so we can reach a consensus on where the best, most reliable sourcing lies. I've provided quotations from reliable sources above supporting the material you removed. If you'd like to take it out again, I'd be grateful if we (and other members of the community, if they so wish) could have a discussion about it first. Giving us some reliable sources that counter the above-quoted sources would make the case for removal much stronger. --Batard0 (talk) 18:18, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Paul Brown was not the Mentor for Vince Lombardi .... LEts not even go there,,, HE told Domnic Oleniczak,, that the Packers would never get him.. Credit goes to Domnick Olejniczak,, Jack Vainisi , and the Executive Committe of the Packers

Dominic Olejniczak, president of the Packers, said, "Lombardi has the background to be a good administrator. We know that from a couple of long interviews with him. He was our man without a question of a doubt."

Just a Discussion Perhaps Vainisi's greatest contribution to the Green Bay franchise was Lombardi himself.

It was Vainisi who - on his own authority - first contacted Lombardi to see if he was interested in the Green Bay job after the disastrous 1-10-1 season of 1958 under Ray "Scooter" McLean. Lombardi told Vainisi in a phone conversation that he was, which delighted Vainisi, who had grown frustrated watching talented players fail to reach their potential in Green Bay.

Vainisi then lobbied members of the Packer executive board to not only hire Lombardi, but also give Lombardi the autonomy and authority Lombardi wanted as both head coach and general manager.

Olejniczak said that Lombardi's name was the only one presented to the board of directors. Of the 45 directors, 27 were on hand. The vote was 26-1 to accept Lombardi. This came after what Olejniczak described as a "healthy discussion."

(Excerpt about Lombadi and Jack Vainisi )) From Vic Ketchman Who was responsible for bringing Lombardi to Green Bay and how did that happen?

Jack Vainisi identified him and pursued him. Vainisi got Lombardi and got his players, too. His importance in this franchise’s success is not fully appreciated. http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Brett-Favre-Remembering-his-come-from-behind-win-in-2001/0a75f4e4-fa91-4e03-acf0-24d86129c078

Thanks for talking about this. This is good stuff, but where does it come from? Can we have a source for this? Is it reliable? --Batard0 (talk) 06:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

In addition to the already-cited reference in Pluto's book above, here are some further sources:

• An article on Cincinnati's team website says: "After letting go Scooter McLean following a one-win season in 1958, Green Bay ownership phoned the legendary coach of the Cleveland Browns looking for a candidate and Brown gave them the name of the offensive assistant who got the Giants to run to daylight. Vincent Thomas Lombardi.
• From That First Season by John Eisenberg: "Vainisi mentioned Lombardi to Ole in mid-December 1958. Ole already knew the name, having seen Lombardi at a coaching clinic in Ohio that fall. Tony Canadeo had suggested they attend the clinic to check out other coaches. Lombardi had commanded the classroom, exuding self-confidence. At Vainisi's suggestion, Ole called Bell, Halas, and Paul Brown. They repeated their praise. Lombardi, they said, was an innovative strategist and dynamic leader who believed in discipline ... Paul Brown told Ole the Packers might not be able to pry Lombardi away from the Giants because he was a lifelong New Yorker liked by the Mara family. If he stayed put, Brown said, he probably would succeed Howell as the Giants' head coach."
• There's then this from The Vince Lombardi scrapbook by George Flynn: "Lombardi had great admiration for Paul Brown, the coach of the Cleveland Browns in those days. he knew Brown as a dedicated, successful coach and admired his methods. And Vince always liked to associate himself with successful people and have successful people around him. And so when Vince came to Green Bay, he always talked to Paul Brown about football and the players around the league, getting a line on what talent might be available"

It appears from these sources that there was some sort of connection between the two men. From the sources, I'd characterize it as something like: Lombardi admired Brown's success and consulted with him frequently. Green Bay's owners also asked for Brown's advice when they were considering hiring him in 1958. Do you agree with this? --Batard0 (talk) 06:37, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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THEN you better start deleting lot of NUMBER 1 football players in the NFL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.59.200.10 (talk) 00:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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