User talk:Unionhawk/Archives/2009/May

Merge Table Cells

{{helpme}} Is there any way to merge cells in a Table, like in Excel?--Unionhawk ^Talk 02:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Erm...kinda. I guess you mean using rowspan;

Col 1, row 1	Col 2, row 1 (and 2)	Col 3, row 1
Col 1, row 2		Col 3, row 2

Code;

{| align="right" border="1"
| Col 1, row 1
|rowspan="2"| Col 2, row 1 (and 2)
| Col 3, row 1
|-
| Col 1, row 2
| Col 3, row 2
|}

See Help:Table

For more halps, use another helpme or talk to us live.  Chzz  ►  02:54, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Chris Stylez

I'd be fascinated to know why you think that the above is vandalism.--Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 16:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

... there is no think. Maybe patent nonsense, but, same difference (sarcasm, I hope?)--Unionhawk ^Talk 16:38, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I was just coming here to inquire the same. I did the delete the article as unambiguous advertising, but could not see how the vandalism tag fit. The criteria for a G3 tag is "…blatant and obvious misinformation, and redirects created by cleanup from page-move vandalism." I appreciate the work you do as a new page patroller, but please remember to take a moment to ensure you've tagged the page properly. I'd be happy to help if you have any questions, so please feel free to drop me a line. Best, TNXMan 16:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

• Deleted as (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion), nearer the mark, but thanks for your swift reply.--Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 16:41, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Speedy tag testing

{{helpme}} Is there any good way to test speedy deletion tags without having my sandbox be deleted?--Unionhawk ^Talk 16:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

There may be, but it depends on what you want to do. What did you have in mind? TNXMan 16:44, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... I guess I could probably just do that at WP:CSD, right? I want to make sure I tag things right. Friendly (or is it Twinkle?) gives me a good idea, but not really enough. (ex: it doesn't tell me that G4 does not work for previously Speedily Deleted material.)--Unionhawk ^Talk 16:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. The CSD page should have all the categories and their specifics. Of course, you can always ask an admin or other user if you're not sure. It's better to be safe than sorry, as we don't want bite the newcomers. I'm usually around during the day, but if you're on at night, you can always drop a line at the help desk or admin's noticeboard. TNXMan 16:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to wikipedia

It's a little unclear to me why you placed the "welcome to wikipedia" message on my talk page. I have been editing actively for quite some time and I am very familiar with policies, including WP:OWN. I also fail to see the relevance of the "OWN" concept in reference to the Galahad Lager...I hadn't contributed at all to that article--or Aldi's article, and have made exactly ONE edit between those two pages. What happened was that I saw the article in a list of deletion discussions and I wanted to put in my two cents--that I felt a redirect was appropriate. Galahad Lager was deleted as a non-notable beer--but it's a beer that is (only?) carried in Aldi supermarkets--hence the redirect. I think it would be useful for people searching for the beer to have a redirect and a single sentence explaining that the beer is connected to Aldi. However...before I could post my input, the article was speedily deleted. Because I had no way to continue the discussion, I decided to be WP:Bold and created the redirect. If you think I have done something out of line, I welcome discussion, but I would appreciate you to bring up something relevant instead of just blindly posting irrelevant messages on my talk page. Cazort (talk) 14:29, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

the template in question is {{uw-own1}}, one of the many warn templates. See the quote used. It's a minor issue, in hindsight, not really worth a template... Mea maxima culpa...--Unionhawk ^Talk 16:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

That's ok! =) Cazort (talk) 19:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Admin coaching

I would be glad to be your coach. I have created the page User:Unionhawk/Admin coaching from which I'll coordinate the coaching; be sure to watchlist it and check on it regularly. We'll begin with the standard RfA questions on User:Unionhawk/Admin coaching/RfA Questions. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: ListasBot making non-bot-flagged edits

How old are the edits? I was notified a couple of days ago by another user of the same thing. I THOUGHT I had a workaround implemented. Are the edits newer than 02 May 2009 03:30? Matt (talk) 19:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, 01 May 15:28, to be exact.--Unionhawk ^Talk 19:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok. It's been fixed since then. Sorry for the inconvenience. Matt (talk) 06:08, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

"Just Dance" review

Well, I've responded to several points a fellow user has suggested with the lead. But forgive me for saying your comment is slightly vague; what issues are there with the lead? -- A ^talk/_contribs 14:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Well... there's four in-line citations now. Nothing else is worth citing as it's repeated in the article and likely won't be challenged information. -- A ^talk/_contribs 19:05, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, as I've just rid (definate) original research from lead I think we're ready. -- A ^talk/_contribs 21:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review the article. I'm glad it passed. -- A ^talk/_contribs 01:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. Unionhawk for your wonderful assessment of the article and User:A for your fast clean-up of the LEAD since I wasnot around. You two are great! --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Few things on GAR

Hello Unionhawk, I just wanted to share a couple of things : GA Reviewers must explain the points they raise, like Kaguya-chan did. For ex: "Major aspects" is unclear, similarly with "Not enough sources". ( see "Giving problems, not solutions" ). If you are unaware, to quote from Reviewing Good articles ~ Process, "Whether you fail an article or put it on hold, you should always leave extensive notes on the review page, ". Finally, pls use Edit summaries. Thanks for your time and review. --Nvineeth (talk) 12:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

All right, thanks for the tip.--Unionhawk ^Talk 12:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Qui

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Talk:Ramprasad Sen/GA1

I noticed some things in the review that I felt could be contested. Please take a look. Also when you say "minor prose issues throughout", please explain with examples or "Major aspects" not covered, write what more you wanted the author to write about. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

All right... Fine. I'll take a look at it... Busy at the moment.--Unionhawk ^Talk

Actually, since it's currently up for peer review, there's nothing I can do, simply because it can't be up for peer review and GAN/GAR at the same time. Sorry.--Unionhawk ^Talk 13:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I am not saying that they were no prose issues, I am not asking for a GAR too. I just wanted you to know what you can improve in your review the next time. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so, do you want me to look it over again or not? I'z confused.--Unionhawk ^Talk 14:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion

Unionhawk, Gaia Octavia Agrippa has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk | _Sign 20:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks. Made my day :)--Unionhawk ^Talk 20:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

AWB Find and Replace

{{helpme}} Is there a way to use AWB to replace {{ski}} with {{ski|class=list}}? This would make it easier to mark stuff as list class more easily. The list I would make would only be stuff that starts with a year, which is all lists (e.g, Talk:1984 Alpine Skiing World Cup - Men's Downhill)--Unionhawk ^Talk 20:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Good question! I would try first asking on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser for help from folks who know AWB better. Tim Pierce (talk) 21:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Mormon Feminist Housewives AFD

I don't think it was a horrible AFD, really- hence my comment about the utah/mormon 'universe'. Like any other set of articles with a strong fanbase, it's nice to have some uninterested and disinterested parties looking at articles like that objectively. tedder (talk) 00:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Notice about a discussion that is about you (sorta)

I've made a post at WP-Talk:AfD that refers to your closing rational for the AfD for Mormon Feminist Housewives. I'm cool with what you said but just wondered about the appropriateness of its exact venue. Or something.... {smiles} Anyway, this is just a headsup. Thanks. ↜Just M E here , now 03:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

No-derivs licensing

I noticed on your userpage you license your contributions under the "Creative Commons Attribution-No Deriative Works 3.0 license". However, the No Derivatives part of the license you've chosen actually doesn't work for Wikipedia: the encyclopedia is built on us editing, remixing, and building on each other's work. Whenever you add a sentence to an article and I switch one word for another, I'm creating a derivative work off your contributions.

Anyway, since whenever you edit Wikipedia you are automatically releasing your contributions under the GFDL, which allows derivatives, this isn't a problem, but I thought you might be interested. -kotra (talk) 05:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Fine. Changed to Share Alike, and, it technically is automatically shared alike, that works--Unionhawk ^Talk 11:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

One thing though: non-commercial doesn't work either because GFDL allows commercial use. You're right though that share-alike works (the similarities between GFDL and the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license are what makes the whole licensing vote thing possible). -kotra (talk) 17:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

...Why do these templates even exist then?--Unionhawk ^Talk 18:06, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

hrm... that's a good question. -kotra (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:51, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Awesome. Great project. I'll do some of that while I'm waiting on a GAR for RuneScape.--Unionhawk ^Talk 11:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to GA Sweeps

Thanks for joining us. I see that you have already kept track of your record on Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force/Sweeps/Running total and already started reviewing. You listed that Wright brothers has been given a pass, yet I could not find such notice on its talk page. Please follow this sweeps process so that the format and layout will be consistent throughout all articles reviewed by different editors. This includes posting a message at that article's talk page noting that you have reviewed and given it a pass (to increase transparency and accountability in the sweep progress). Same goes to any article you're currently waiting for 7-day for improvement, sending it to GAR, or quick-delist. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 14:41, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Userboxen

I just noticed your edit to the talk for Snowshoe Mountain, and went to your userpage to figure out if you were from West Virginia (my home state). It's always nice to find other folks from home here on Wikipedia. In any event, I came across this, which I got a bit hung up on. I'm sure you already know that userboxes are here to bring us together. I'm sure you have your reasons, and I'm sure they're very sincere, but a userbox just isn't the right place to express that particular viewpoint in the context it needs to be in. I figure you made that for including in your conflict of interest section, but it really deserves (and I think requires) more than a userbox, and the current situation could really throw a wrench in collaborating. Please consider tagging the userbox with a {{db-userreq}}. You can feel free to respond here if you want to discuss further. Take care! On a happier note, thanks again for finalizing the Snowshoe Mountain assessment.   user:j    (aka justen)   22:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

All right. requested U1 Speedy and removed from applicable pages. I changed it to just a listing with a rationale on my COI statement.--Unionhawk ^Talk 22:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the context will help better get the sincerity of your position and point of view across. Thanks for considering this objectively and addressing it so quickly. Take care.   user:j    (aka justen)   23:04, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Ice Hockey World Championships

Will you be interested in giving an Editor assistance in Ice Hockey World Championships article. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreyx109 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so... what exactly do you need help with?--Unionhawk ^Talk 11:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Unionhawk, I appreciate you taking the time to reply to me. It seems that the case is already resolved (well, I hope so), but thank you very much anyway Andreyx109 (talk) 15:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Admin coaching (2)

Have you read my note at User:Unionhawk/Admin coaching? Sorry I didn't make this clear at the beginning, but when you have read a comment of mine on any of the coaching pages, please reply to acknowledge receipt of the comment. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 15:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:bio supersedes WP:Athlete, or WP: single event

The argument is that this person has had "significant" coverage over the course of 3 years for several different events. The strongest argument on the site is not that he qualifies under WP:Athlete, but that he qualifies under the fact that he has been covered in national newspapers, and national tv broadcasts, the most respected general sports sites, and also every track and field and running news outlet or magazine that exists. This has nothing to do with a single event. However, I do agree that the 15th place at worlds would not be grounds for notability alone, but this isn't what most people are arguing. They are arguing that WP athlete is irrelevant because it is superseded by WP:bio. Currently it is debatable that he fits under WP:bio. I along with others think yes, however some people think no. But this isn't as cut and dry as you suggest, most of the people who support keeping the derrick page actually agree with your argument that finishing 15th in a single race is not grounds for notability, but according to the WP guidelines this is irrelevant if he meets the notable coverage in reliable secondary sources requirement.MATThematical (talk) 18:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thank You

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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The Devil's Tomb

Hi. I do not think that the proposed deletion you added to The Devil's Tomb article was entirely justified. You claimed that the article should be removed because it is a straight to DVD film and is therefore not notable. However, there are hundreds of straight to straight to DVD films with their own articles, just see the straight to DVD films category. This film was notable amongst other straight to DVD films, as it had a considerably larger budget ($10 million) than most of them, and also because it stars some very well known stars (Ray Winstone, Cuba Gooding Jnr, Ron Perlman, wheras most straight to DVD films star unknown actors who do not have wikipedia articles, therefore making the film very notable. Therefore this film is more than worthy of its own article. Please remove the deletion template if you are allowed. You can always expand the article if you are unsatified with it as it currently is.The Editor 155 (talk) 15:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

FYI

Deletion of Bilateral relation pages despite ongoing merging effort Ed Fitzgerald _{t / c} 08:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Core topics

Hi, and thanks for signing up for the Core Topics subproject of WP:1.0. I saw your recent update of the article list.

The core topics list is quite old, and may need some review at some point. Also, it was created before the bot-assisted tagging scheme was set up. We now have this list, and I think what we should really do is to bring that list into the main Core Topics page - that way the grades are automatically updated by the bot. First, we probably need to resolve any differences between that list and the list at WP:CORE. We will also have to do the same with the Core Supplement list.

I'm currently very busy - I have to grade/mark several hundred pieces of work before final grades go in next week - but after that I should begin to have some time to work on this with you, if you're interested.

Thanks again, Walkerma (talk) 20:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy note

You've been mentioned (briefly) in the discussion of a topic ban on user:Scuro here. Nja²⁴⁷ 08:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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Help for template

Hello, I've seen your name on the project template and I permis myself to ask you help: I've just created a new portal Portal:Lyon and I would like to create the templates for the subways, trams, bus. They already exist on the french wikipedia of Lyon metro for example. would you accept to help me ? Thank you Lulu97417 (talk) 16:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I would, but, honestly (in case the wikibreak template can't give you a hint) I'm kind of busy for exams.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 17:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

ok thank you :) take all of your time, I'm in the same situation for exams :( good luck ! Lulu97417 (talk) 17:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Your edit to my user page

I edited Wikipedia for years as an anon IP because I didn't want an account, and when I did have an account there were periods when I made edits not signed in because I didn't want to bother. Frankly, choosing the badge I did was a conservative estimate of my time and edits to this project, as I very likely earned the next one up. It was quite rude to take it upon yourself to make that edit in the first place, and it's even more so because you did not even leave a message on my talk page to explain what you did. At best, if you were really concerned about it, you should have asked me about it on my talk page and then let me fix it if there actually had been a genuine problem. DreamGuy (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

whatever.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 14:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Can you help?

Hi. I've tried to figure out archiving (my talk page) by reading the bots' pages. Too confusing. Now I see what you've just added to an article talk page:

autoarchivingnotice|age=45|bot=MiszaBot|small=yes 
----   
User:MiszaBot/config   

I've removed the curley bracket, which hopefully disables that copy/paste here. On my talk page I've done some archiving manually. If I add the above (with brackets) to the top of my talk page, will Misza pick up on my same system and continue? That looks all-too-easy. Grateful for advice. - Hordaland (talk) 08:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

ClueBot III has a set of pre-created auto archiving boxes. That's how I have mine set up. Mine is set up as a Month/Year archive with ad box. If you want to do the same, the code would be:

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis
|archiveprefix=User talk:Hordaland/Archives/
|format=Y/F
|age=72
|index=yes
|archivebox=yes
|box-advert=yes
}}

There are other bots, but ClueBot III has some pre set up auto archiving solutions. What you have is incomplete, and would not work at all.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 18:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm trying that. What does age=72 mean? I'm not that old yet :-)

Presumably hrs or days? Days would be fine, not hrs. I hold my breath now.... to see what happens. - Hordaland (talk) 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC) P.S. Clicked on ClueBot & found answer there, so never mind. Thanks, - Hordaland (talk) 21:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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Quickfail

RuneScape's GA nomination has been quick-failed. Just a note. 1ForTheMoney (talk) 14:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Darn it!--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 23:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)