User talk:Thedjatclubrock/Archive 1

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Hello, Thedjatclubrock, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Helpme

{{helpme}}

Thank you for your answer Gracenotes :)

02:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. If it's okay with you, I have added section headers to your user talk page. Happy editing! :) Gracenotes^T § 02:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Thats fine

You're welcome!

Thank you for the thank you! I do leave a number of welcomes to newer editors, and I know the links help them out, but you're one of the few who has left a thank you note. A sign of true civility. I think you'll fit right in with the majority culture here. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 02:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Stubs

The short answer is to add a stub template at the bottom of the page. Everything you could want to know about stubs can be found at the Stub guideline. There's a quite lengthy list of stub templates at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types and there's also a Category containing listings of stub templates categorized by type— Category:Stub categories.

Those lists are pretty huge. Sometimes I just go to a similar article that's also a stub and copy the stub template I find there. Open a stub page's edit window and find something that looks like this at the bottom of the page.

{{Connecticut-politician-stub}}

Copy it to your clipboard and paste it into the page you want to tag.

Hope that answers your question sufficiently. If you need more help, feel free to ask; though I'm going to sleep soon because I have to get up for work in about five hours. Cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Photoshop tv?

Hi, and thanks! But no I've never heard of it. What/where is it? Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 08:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcoming committee

Boker Tov! The place to learn all about welcoming new members is the Welcoming committee. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 14:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I should also add a point or two about talk pages to save you some possible trouble with other editors. To start a new section on a talk page, just hit the "+" sign next to the "edit this page" tab. I think you've figured out that you can have the system sign your posts by using ~~~~. You should never erase other editor's posts on talk pages, unless its obvious vandalism or personal attacks or something like that. It's even frowned on to erase your own posts to talk pages, the accepted method if you want to retract your comments is to strike them out, like so. This can be done by surrounding the text with <s> and </s>. If your own talk page, or an article's talk page is getting too long then the older conversations should be archived as described at Help:Archiving a talk page.

Use the show preview button to make sure the edit will end up like you want it. If you get your edit irrecoverably messed up, all you have to do is not save the page- either navigate away from the edit page or hit the cancel link beside the buttons at the bottom of the page.

Feel free to write with any more questions or anything. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 14:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi. I saw your message on my talk page, but I don't know what article you are referring to. You can only delete and restore pages or block users if you are an administrator - experienced editors who are nominated and go through a voting procedure. If you tell me the page you are referring to, I'll get back to you. Jimfbleak 15:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC

there are two processes, speedy deletion for nonsense, advertisements, vandalism, not-notable and copyright, and a discussion process for contentious articles. There are several ways articles are picked up. Non-admins watching New Pages will add a speedy deletion tag to an article, which will be picked up by admins at Category

Candidates for speedy deletion}. Admins will also knock out articles from new pages directly. Is this what you were asking? Jimfbleak 15:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

same way, someone tags them, someone cleans them up. If they aren't tagged, they don't get fixed. Vandalised articles, however, are often automatically reverted by bots, or detected by various tools like vandalproof (I don't know how these techy things work. Jimfbleak 15:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Help me again

In the article, notifier I added a stub. It doesn't exist yet. Can someone help me make this an offical stub.

sure, let me look JodyB _talk 19:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, you are probably wanting something like {{emergency-stub}} at the very bottom. I am not sure that is a valid stub, if it is, it will show up in blue at the very bottom of the page, otherwise it will be red. If you can't find a precise stub, just place {{stub}} and someone will expand it. JodyB _talk 19:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Fire alarm stub tag

I noticed the fire alarm stub tag you placed on Notifier. What is the location of that tag? It's usually [[Template:(something)]] where it's located. Normally, stub tags don't get substituted. So yeah, let me know when you get a chance... SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Template:X6 is a sandbox for testing templates. You don't need to go around handing out warnings over it. I only mention it because you tried to warn me about it over at User talk:24.160.247.6, which was my IP a while ago. There's real vandalism out there for you to fix, and real vandals to be warned. I'm not one of them, and [Template:X6] isn't anything you have to worry about. Peace. 24.160.241.190 00:39, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:Placeholders

Please DO NOT remove deletion process templates from pages. If you wish to comment on the proposed deletion, do so at the listed process page. Removing a template during that process could be construed as vandalism. Grutness...wha? 01:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

An article you've created has been listed for deletion

Resolved

 – The speedy deletion criterion was invalid. That does not mean that the article still couldn't be nominated for deletion through the normal process. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on The idea of you, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Valentinian ^{T / C} 01:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Placeholders again

Hi dj - you wrote: The article in which i placed a random stub tag was a mistake. I couldn't find where I put it. (Thanks for reverting it) Taking the stub tag off of middle finger was bad Judgement on my part, sorry. The {{placeholder}} tag was not meant to be a stub type. Sorry for any confusion, I have no intention to vandalise wikipedia in any way.

Okay... sorry I sounded grumpy about this - I had assumed you were an experienced editor due to your talk page archives (most people don't archive their pages until they have at least 30-40 messages, and certainly wouldn't have three archives until they'd been around quite a long while). The reason for the problems with {{placeholder}}... hm - long explanation coming up:

There are loads of cleanup templates of different sorts used on Wikipedia. They are all for the benefit of later editors to know exactly what is wrong with an article and (in the case of stub templates) what topic the article is on (that way, an editor with expert knowledge in, say Ancient Egypt, can go straight to a category of Ancient Egypt stubs). In every case, though, the template tells the editor something of the problem with the article - whether it needs an image, whether the grammar needs tidying up, whether it's biased, whether it needs to be linked to other articles, etc etc etc. All these templates help the editor to know what skills are needed to tidy the article up.

{{Placeholder}} doesn't do any of those things. All it does is tell an editor why the article was created in the first place - something the editor doesn't need to know. And if an article was written as a placeholder, it will almost always be a stub, since it's very unlikely that a placeholder article will be long and detailed. because of that, {{placeholder}} simply becomes another form of {{stub}}. As such, if it's used alongside stub as a second template on an article, it's not telling an editor anything at all - it just adds a bit more "clutter" to the bottom of the article. And if it's used in place of {{stub}} it removes the article from Category:stubs, and means it won't be sorted into a topic-specific stub type to help editors search for specific articles (there are several hundred thousand stubs on Wikipedia, so it's really important that they get sorted by topic!).

So basically that's the reason I nominated it for deletion. It is a template that would only be used on stubs, and doesn't help editors if it's used either as a complement or as a replacement for a stub template.

I hope that expains things a bit more clearly. Sorry for any offence caused. Grutness...wha? 00:39, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, pages can only be deleted (as opposed to blanked) by admins. The contents of the deleted page can then only be restored by another admin, whereas anyone can view the history and contents of a blanked page. If you want me to delete a page, just let me know. Jimfbleak 06:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

{{sbx}} is up for deletion at WP:TfD

In the meantime, the tfd template breaks the redirect--VectorPotential^Talk 17:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Most of the time there's a bot, several bots actually, that restore the header. It seems unnecessarily confusing for new users to have a template that only consists of 3 letters. Not to mention it really isn't that important to restore the header that you'd have to cut corners just for the sake of restoring the header--VectorPotential^Talk 17:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Help

{{helpme|MY page isn't archiving.}}Thanks,Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 00:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

Wernabot is no longer operational. Try User:Miszabot or User:Shadowbot3. —Centrx→talk • 00:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Help me

I am having trouble setting up twinkle. I am running opera. Thanks, Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 15:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC).

What are you having trouble with? :) GrooveDog (talk) 16:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Did I incert the code right? How do I activate it.

You need to completely refresh your browser by bypassing your cache (hit Control-Shift-R in Firefox or Control-F5 in Internet Explorer). Once you do that, look at my contributions, and you should see three revert links (AGF, Revert, and Vandal) next to each link. --ST47Talk 12:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I still don't see them.

The page to change to make it work is monobook.js. That's where you add bits of javascript to change the way Wikipedia behaves. You didn't have such a page, so I created it, and added Twinkle to it for you. I've also added Popups - you might find it useful. If you don't, of course, then just delete it.

The other thing that might be causing you a problem is your browser. Which one do you use? According to the Twinkle page, it supports Firefox well and most browsers ok, but it doesn't work on internet explorer. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 13:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle doesn't work with Opera right now, don't know if it ever will. Try asking here. Smokizzy (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Dunewood

A tag has been placed on Dunewood, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Unreferenced, appears non-notable

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet very basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Ingolfson 13:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Again, my apologies - however, if I hadn't tagged it, it would have been tagged and later deleted by somebody else. You are more than welcome to rewrite it (!), but you will have to stick very closely to public sources - such as newspapers, local authority (City Hall, or whatever is the name for it in your locality) descriptions etc... - your own opinions, knowledge etc... cannot be used, as we cannot check whether it is just an opinion, or accurate. As an encyclopaedia, everything must be referenced - even if many articles are not yet well referenced, we are aware of that.

Again, please ask me if you have questions, and see it as a part of a learning process. If you are willing to contribute further to Wikipedia, you will soon see why this article got criticised. Cheers Ingolfson 13:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi - I recreated the article Dunewood in an acceptably referenced, and tiedied-up form (my apologies for getting it deleted in the first place - I should have instead either changed into such form, or helped you do it). There is obviously still a lot missing, but thats where you come back in.

I am too tired now, but I will be back to explain what I did and why, and how you can create better articles as well, or add to this one in a good way. But sorry, now, what you wrote is not acceptable even if you post it on a website - private websites are not verifiable sources of information (because everyone can have and write one). Articles on Wikipedia need references that are more robust, i.e. material that has appeared in newspapers, government documents, scholarly books, etc... SOME private sources such as websites of reasonable reliability (an obviously fluid judgement call!) may be used for ADDITIONAL information. In that way, I could use the private Fire Island website for some information, after I had provided some much more reliable articles via the NYT, to establish existence. Not all references must have the same level of reliability, but always aim as high as you can. I.e., if all I had about the erosion issues was a note on a private website, I might not have added it at all, for example. Ingolfson 06:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, as noted, more later. Also, whenever you post on a TALK page (of an article, or a user), please follow your comment with ~~~~ These four tildes will automatically change into your username and timestamp. That makes conversations on these pages much less confusing to follow. Ingolfson 06:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Response to your "helpme" request

You needed to add the following line at the end of your template (User:Thedjatclubrock/Watched) to close it:

|}

I did it for you. Cheers, Shalom ^Hello 16:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism warnings

The vandlism warnings in my history are tests of twinkle.Thedjatclubrock :) (talk) 12:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:CVU status

The Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit project is under consideration to be moved to {{inactive}} and/or {{historical}} status. Another proposal is to delete or redirect the project. You have been identified as a project member and your input as to this matter would be welcomed at WT:CVU#Inactive.3F and at the deletion debate. Thank you! Delivered on behalf of xaosflux 17:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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Helpme

{{helpme|How do I make my wdefcon template on my userpage update as the vandalism information page is updated.}}

Hi there, the template is doing that, you have added it correctly. You can compare yours to the main one by checking WP:DEFCON. Andy^reply 22:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah you might find you need to do that occasionally! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drunkenmonkey (talk • contribs) 22:16:43, August 19, 2007 (UTC).

Thank You

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Template:Sbxwarn

Hey, just so you know, when you put that speedy tag on Template:Sbxwarn, it transcluded the speedy deletion notice onto all the user talk pages you had placed that template on and listed them all for speedy deletion in CAT:CSD. Sarah 12:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. Much appreciated. There aren't any broken links. I removed the templates from the talk pages before I realised what was causing the problem. I think it's all sorted, I was just letting you know so you knew for the next time you tag templates. Cheers, Sarah 02:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Warning to a bot

You seem to have just warned my bot, Polbot, not to add unsourced material to Wikipedia. You'll be glad to know that she is utterly incapable of doing so. She only adds information from the IUCN, which she credits. All the best, – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 00:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

SETh of MONROVIA Vandalism

How did I vandalize the Tournament of Roses Wikipedia page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SETh of MONROVIA (talk • contribs) 01:14, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

I am sorry it was an accident. I would not want to vandalize the ToR wikipedia page as members of my family are whitesuiters, and I work for Phoenix Decorating Co.SETh of MONROVIA 01:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

reply

obviously your confused...i didnt delete you, User:Reedy_Boy did look, and it also says ur approved...next time be more careful in yoru reading! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage&diff=prev&oldid=152666312 Ctjf83 03:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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• No problem. I guessed it was something like that - I've redacted the rest of the conversation. Cheers, ELIMINATORJR 23:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

re:Thanks

Any time, I think vandalism should be eliminated on sight. Your user page was, uh, lucky enough to attract some and hence my attention. Anyway, thanks for the barnstar, I appreciate it. Have a great day, James086^{Talk | Email} 23:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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