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Request on 06:24:44, 1 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by THUPAMP

• THUPAMP (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Kemono Cafe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello there,

I examined the Wikipedia rules and do believe that this does meet the criteria as there are sources via the website and on the Wikifur page that I linked. Please provide more details as a way to resolve this issue.

THUPAMP (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

THUPAMP, I would recommend re-reading those policies, because they clearly point out how the company's website or a website like "wikifur" are not enough at all to denote notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:44, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

What reputable sources Wikipedia is looking for?

Hi, I just wanted to give feedback on my recent request to new page generation (declined twice) for Draft:International_Institute_of_Molecular_and_Cell_Biology_in_Warsaw. This is one of the top reserach institute in Poland which already present in Polish Wikipedia. I agree that first draft was lacking proper references. But in second draft, just to give it more 'wide' references, I had added references from Europion Union websites as well from Nature (journal) article. If you think this are not 'wide' enough references, I don't know what are. In future, please be specific about your definitation of 'wide' references for such article creations so that we will not put our efforts to make them or search for them. -- Rohitsuratekar (talk) 08:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Rohitsuratekar, We need to see significant coverage from independent sources. This is all outlined, including links to the pages explaining the policies on the draft page. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

The Gentleman Losers article

Hi Sulfurboy,

Thanks for the prompt review of my article draft on the band The Gentleman Losers. You declined it on the basis of, and I quote your reply, "This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, The Gentlemen Losers, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one."

As you can see, either the title of that article has a different spelling, a wrong one, in this case (the name of the band in my submission is indeed officially spelled "gentleman", not "gentlemen" – this can easily be verified by any of the external links in my draft; the grammatical correctness of this spelling is not a matter concerning us), or we are dealing with another band altogether.

Can you please double check the content of other article you mentioned. If the subject matter is the same as in mine, the fact that already the title has a typo in it would suggest to me that my article might indeed be the one to consider for publication. If it's another band with differently spelled name, then there is no problem with duplicity.

I'm obviously very new to this, but eager to learn more. I wasn't able to view that other article submission. Is there a way for me to do this?

Here's mine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Valasti/sandbox

All the best, and looking forward to your comments!

Valasti (talk) 21:01, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Valasti, Hey sorry about that. I believe I wrote Gentlemen instead of Gentleman which is why the link in the decline message wasn't work. Look like Theroadislong was nice enough to fix it for us. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy Thanks for the clarification! So indeed there is another submission. But it seems that it was already declined? How does that work, then, if I may be so ignorant? My article can't get reviewed on account of there being another one on the same subject, even though that one wasn't accepted for publication? So what happens next? Any further clarification is much appreciated! :) Valasti (talk) 23:03, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Valasti, The effort of getting the subject published to wikipedia needs to be condensed to one article. So if you want to continue working on yours, put a note on the other page's talk page to that effect and resubmit when you feel it is ready to be reviewed. Alternatively, you can move stuff over you might have from yours to the other one and not really have to worry about leaving a note as yours has already been declined for duplication. (if that makes sense) Sulfurboy (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy Thanks, very much appreciate the info! Valasti (talk) 13:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Shaun Martin

Excuse me, but did you even bother to look at the ref cites before you tagged the Shaun Martin article. The ref cites on this article are not mere lists of references. As is my usual practice, the reference citations include the URL of the article cited, the title of the reference, the publisher, the date of publication if given, and the access date. This is more information than on many of the ref cites that I regularly correct. Yes, there were only three references initially used for the article, but others I found were Martin's own website (which has a webmaster who doesn't have his/her facts straight) and a number of other rather inaccurate puff pieces. GWFrog (talk) 19:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

GWFrog, Excuse me, it's a maintenance tag dude, get a grip. I looked at them and they're awful, missing, or incorrectly placed. There's no footnotes confirming what source the Grammy awards can be verified by (neither in the lead or awards section). BLP standards for inline citations are, well, to be inline, not just loosely placed at the beginning of a section like in the Early Life section. There's multiple claims in that early life section and it's not readily apparent which sources are confirming what. I also ask that if you're going to bring attitude to my talk page that you just post on the subject's talk page instead. I edit on here to relax and have fun not to deal with childish drama. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Excuse me...sorry if I came on strong... Not having one of my better days. I see your point about the multiple refs as "Sources"; it's that there were multiple references saying the same things, so I did a combination paraphrase for the text. As for the lack of ref cites on the Grammy awards, I was previously told rather strongly by an administrator that, when items like that are linked to another Wikipedia article where it is cited, then citing it is redundant and incorrect procedure, so I have left a number of similar entries without ref cites that I will now relocate and add cites to in the next dew days, GWFrog (talk) 23:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

GWFrog, No worries. We all have those days. And yeah that's a new one for me, but I guess that makes sense to some extent, but also to me would go against the idea that Wikipedia can't use itself as a source. I just came back from a few years hiatus, so I may have forgotten that or it's a policy change in the time I've been gone. DGG, would you mind confirming that's true? ("I was previously told rather strongly by an administrator that, when items like [major awards] are linked to another Wikipedia article where it is cited, then citing it is redundant and incorrect procedure") Sulfurboy (talk) 00:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

In general, :It is much better to specifically cite all major awards on the bio page, even if they are listed elsewhere. They should ideally be cited to an official announcement of the award from the organization that gave them, or a major news story about it. If necessary, a citation can be made to a reliable source on the person, which lists the awards, but my experience is that such sources are not always as reliable as they ought to be, and sometimes get exact titles wrong. Referencing them to an official bio of the person on their web site is sometimes necessary, but referencing to a PR handout is dubious, because they often get things wrong, usually by wording things so the awards seems more imprortant than it actually is.

However, if there is a link to a WP page which provides--and cites -- the same information, the material should not be removed, but the reference can be copied. But this will depend on the specific situation, which I need to look at further. GWFrog It would help me to have a link to the advice given you. DGG ( talk ) 07:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I went back yesterday and added ref cites to the official Grammy listings for each year on the Shaun Martin article and will be doing the same on a couple of others articles. As for the notice I was given, I deleted it from my talk page long ago, and I have no idea who the admin was. If, like some folks, I kept everything that went onto my talk page, it would take hours to try to find anything there, and any new entries would be waaay down there...LOL Today, I also eliminated ref list in the "Early life" section with individual cites in the text. And so it goes... GWFrog (talk) 18:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Adequate Support From Reliable Sources

Hi, Sulfurboy. Hope you're well. Just getting in touch regarding my article which you rejected yesterday. Your note mentioned a lack of reliable sources. This has left me somewhat confused given that the article repeatedly cites a number of broadsheet newspapers with direct coverage for the subject. This includes BBC News, The Times, The Telegraph, The Metro, Yorkshire Post, Varsity, and Corriere della Serra. Could you please clarify what more is required to adequately source this article, or whether there are any sources which should be amended so this article can be published. All the best, Doogierev.

Doogierev (talk) 23:44, 01 March 2020 (UTC)

Clarification regarding reliable sources

Link for Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Moneymax

Hi Sulfurboy! Thanks for reviewing my article. I just want to know what type of reliable sources Wikipedia needs. All the sources I included in the articles are from reliable and established sources here in the Philippines. I even included some from TechinAsia and an interview from Bloomberg. I also removed parts of the article that came off as advertisement to comply with Wikipedia's neutral tone. Do I need to add more international sources? Because our company only operates in the Philippines. Does that affect our notability? Hope you can help clarify things. Thanks!

TeetotaleRicky (talk) 07:49, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

TeetotaleRicky, We need to see significant coverage of the subject that is separate from just WP:ROUTINE coverage. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft: ASB GlassFloor

Hi Sulfurboy, I have disclosed my COI relationship to the article using the template given under: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_disclose_a_COI

Is there anything else which I need to do to remove the tag?

Many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBurger9 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sulfurboy, any help/update would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBurger9 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

How do you upload articles directly instead of doing it via the Wizard?

Hello! First and foremost, thank you for your help with my drafts. My question is how I upload an article directly instead of doing it the way I'm doing it now. I don't really understand how to do it through the information you gave me on my talk page, so I just wanted to ask here. Have a nice day! Zandor (talk) 11:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

DariuZzandor, click the link that says "create articles yourself" that is posted in the most recent message on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 11:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I am blind, haha. I have read that page before but didn't notice the box where you can create articles. Thanks! Zandor (talk) 11:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Feminists for Free Expression - Additional Sources Added

Hi Surfboy,

Thank you for your comments on Feminists for Free Expression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Feminists_for_Free_Expression

I have added a number of what I believe qualify as reliable secondary sources, all of which refer to the subject, verify statements made in the entry, and attest to the subject's notability. As you will note, the new sources include articles from 1993, as well as books from 1994 to 2013. I hope this suffices. Thank you for your comments.

1. J. Green & N. Karolides, Encyclopedia of Censorship, New Edition (2005).

2. Christopher M. Finan, From the Palmer Raids to the Patriot Act: A History of the Fight for Free Speech in America (2007).

3. Debbie Nathan, Pornography (2007).

4. Leigh Ann Wheeler, How Sex Became a Civil Liberty (2013).

5. Jennifer Hurley (ed.), Feminism: Opposing Viewpoints (2001).

6. Jeffrey Rosen, The Unwanted Gaze: The Destruction of Privacy in America (2000).

7. Nan Levinson, Outspoken: Free Speech Stories (2003).

8. Bonnie Zimmerman (ed.), Lesbian Histories and Cultures: An Encyclopedia, vol. 1 (2000).

9. Nadine Strossen, Defending Pornography: Free Speech, Sex, and the Fight for Women's Rights (2000).

10. Edward J. Cleary, Beyond Burning the Cross (1994).

11. Rene Denfeld, The New Victorians (1995).

12. Donald E. Levy, Dorothy E. Roberts & Russel L. Weaver (eds.), First Amendment Anthology (1994).

13. Wendy McElroy, XXX: A Woman's Right to Pornography (1995).

14. Robert Trager & Donna L. Dickerson, Freedom of Expression in the 21st Century (1999).

15. Banning Erotic Words and Pictures Will Not Reduce Sexual Harassment", in Louise L. Gerdes (ed.), Sexual Harassment (1999).

16. Jeffrey Rosen, "Reasonable Women", The New Republic (1 Nov. 1993).

17. Donna Laframboise, The Princess at the Window: A new gender morality (1996).

18. Marcy Scheiner, "Is there Sex in Sexual?", Future Sex, Issue 5 (1993)

Thanks again. AlexaVamos (talk) 13:54, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Reliable Sources clarification

Greeting Sulfurboy! I am writing because I would appreciate further clarification for the reason you have denied Draft: Wise Blood (Musician) to article mainspace. You cite the need for reliable sources and this confuses me. The sources I have used for the article include news outlets like The New York Times, BBC Radio 1, and The Guardian as well as music outlets like Pitchfork, MTV, Fader, FACT and Stereogum. Is there a particular section or claim that you are referring to that needs a reliable source? This is not meant to dispute your assessment I would just like to correct and improve the article however I can. Thank you!--Mapmaker88 (talk) 14:47, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Mapmaker88, I'm not sure why you're asking for clarification. It looks like the one edit you have made was to remove the wikipedia source, so it seems you have at least a solid grasp of what is and isn't considered reliable. A good criterion to judge a source is to ask three questions: 1) Is this a self-reported source? 2) Is the information provided done so by a reliable person or journalist? (not user created on a forum, blog post, etc.) 3) Does the source impart information on the subject in a neutral manner?

Sulfurboy, thank you for your response! I appreciate any help and feedback I can get while trying to edit and improve my first article. Cheers!

Draft:BioSerenity

Hello,

I'm working on my first article in English. I started with a translation of the French language but it seems the language and the sources did not fit the expectations. I've made modifications following your recommendations. Let me know what you think. I added several reputable sources in French (national newspapers from Switzerland and France) and English (UK and US sources). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaheris fils de lot (talk • contribs) 15:03, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 15:13:53, 2 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Robertwilding

• Robertwilding (talk · contribs)
  • User:Robertwilding/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi mate

I've copied this and made it english. this one has less links and got accepted.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Pirchan

Robertwilding (talk) 15:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Robertwilding, You have zero properly formatted references or inline citations. Please review WP:CS Sulfurboy (talk) 15:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

World Gardens

Hello Sulfurboy! Thanks for your notes about my article entitled "Draft/World Gardens", which appears not matching the basics to be accepted. Of course, I've read all the guidelines and I'm quite surprised that the sources indicated are not enough nor useful for you. This Cd got radio promotion and airplay in the US via JazzWeek and received several reviews by some main jazz magazines/websites in the US and in Europe, which should be considered correct sources (some of them are included in Wikipedia). Also the Cd World Gardens is included in All Music and other quotes include JazzTimes, the IAJRC Journal etc. In a word, it's a known album in the international jazz community (even if it's not a famous one nor a hit) as well as Silver's Serenade, for example, which I've kept as a reference as it's a known album by Horace Silver even if not a famous one nor a hit. When comparing the requested basic conditions to the sources I've indicated (the most of them with active links on the web), I don't understand what's missing nor why those sources aren't enough (what more/else, for the world of jazz/jazz community?). Please, I'd appreciate a lot your feedback and clarification and help, please, to possibly receive your positive review and get this article published. FYI: in the mean time I've also submitted a more new article entitled "Draft/Live in Miami @ The WDNA Jazz Gallery", which also contains relevant sources as Down Beat a.o. I'm looking forward to your feedback. Best, Robmag — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robmag (talk • contribs) 16:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Looking for feedback and direction on a submission, thank you

Hello Sulfurboy, you recently rejected my submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Openpath_Security,_Inc.#Openpath_Security%2C_Inc. and am trying to see what I can do to improve it as you felt it was an advertisement vs an encyclopedia submission. I do not work for Openpath and as a 3rd party industry expert, I am looking to submit a viable encyclopedia article on a company in the access control and security market. The articles referenced in the submission are primarily industry publications and although they may not be main stream outside of the security industry, those are about as notable as our industry gets (on top of the ones noted from Techcrunch, Business Insider etc also mentioned). Also in doing my research I emulated prior accepted articles like Eagle Eye Networks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Eye_Networks who followed a similar format and were accepted. I am not sure which part comes off as an advertisement so any feedback you have would be great. If its the "Product" section, I can edit or delete that but even with that portion, it is credible and real. Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethesdaLee (talk • contribs) 17:31, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:First Derm

Hey!

Thank you so much for checking the page. I notice you mention that I must disclose if there is a conflict of interest. I did do this on my page I think you can see it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fderm - I could have gone about this the wrong way though so please let me know if this is wrong.

There is a page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisualDx - that i'm trying to follow but I'm unsure how to make sure i'm not breaking any guidelines.

Thank you again for your feedback,

Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fderm (talk • contribs) 15:35, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Fderm, Disclosure must take place on the draft page as well. You need to properly disclose either your financial stake in the subject and or the pay you are receiving in your role with the company. Please note that companies and/or employees of said companies are highly discouraged from creating pages about themselves. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

OK great thank you very much for feedback. Apologies for not disclosing on draft page, I'll read into where I disclose now. I'm unpaid so not sure how i prove that but I set up an account with Fderm for transparency (so that you know i am linked) I do know the Doctor involved. It was in light of the Visualdx page I thought i'd add a page for them. I will make changes now and disclosure. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fderm (talk • contribs) 16:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Fderm, I'm confused. How can you be an employee of the company, but not being paid for this? Please note that being a salaried employee still counts as being paid for creating the page. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm not an employee nor am I paid by them - I will ask if there is a way i can prove this. I have known the Doctor (Dr. Alexander Börve) for a long time and so I thought I'd try set up a page since I noticed the visualdx page. Just to be clear - i do know the Doctor who owns the company and therefore i have a conflict of interest but there is no exchanging of money in this. Hoped that I could make it neutral but i have limited experience on wiki pages hence the confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fderm (talk • contribs) 16:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Fderm, It's highly recommended that you do not continue to write this article. People with a strong of conflict of interests such as you do with this subject are highly encouraged not to create articles about it. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_J._Smith_(artist)

Hi Sulfurboy, I hope this note finds you doing well. I'm wondering how the article I submitted doesn't meet the notability guideline. Chris Troutman said in his initial review that confirmation of the artist's work in the Tesla Museum would be _enough alone_ for notability. I confirmed with the museum's director, Jane Alcorn. Additionally this artist's innovative techniques were recently featured on the Science Channel's How It's Made show, which is also in itself notable and exactly meets Creative Professionals #2: "The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique." Only the best at what they do are featured on that show, in other words, notable for making something. This artist and one of his weather vanes also already appears on the Wikipedia page for Texas Country Reporter, and his work appears on some other Wikipedia pages as well. I believe all the references I've provided are solid. Please let me know what else I could do to meet the article's requirement.

Thanks for all you do! --Loren Cluffs

You say the subject was covered in the WSJ and Houston Chronicle, but I'm not seeing those sources referenced in the page, those might help a lot of if they are indeed significant coverage of the subject. The Daily Kos article is user submitted and not under the purview of their editorial board meaning it is not reliable. Linking to how its made's page is not a proper source. Nor is maps.org/resources/links. So what we're left with is copper.org, a subject that presumably would have a pretty large bias to cover otherwise non-notable subjects and two tv appearances. The How It's Made show didn't cover the subject but instead showed one of his sculptures in the coverage of a much broader subject and another at best slightly notable, but relatively local and unwatched tv show. This is simply not enough to get there as this time. Again, what's going to be helpful is if the HC and WSJ articles actually show significant coverage. As a fellow Texan I'm rooting for this article and is part of the reason I spent so much time on this reply. But that cheering for you and still finding it ot be a decline should be evident enough that just doesn't pass at the moment. Best of luck. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Linda Plazonja

Hi,

Thank you for your review of my first page. I work for the Mayor of a town in Massachusetts and she asked me to post a Wikipedia Page for her. I guess I did it wrong. I am not sure why. Can you help? The name of the page is Ruthanne Fuller. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda Plazonja (talk • contribs) 20:44, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Linda Plazonja, Messages with what you did wrong and what needs to be done were posted on the draft page and your user page I would advise reading them. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your mayor. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment: This should be outright rejected if its submitted again without any effort put into improving it. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC) - Why?

Can you please help? What am I doing wrong? I am just trying to add documentation like there are for every band out there.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reconnoise (talk • contribs) 21:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Take A Daytrip page

Hello!!

I am trying to publish the Take A Daytrip page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Take_A_Daytrip.

I've made all the recent edits and noticed that you had said the article has been bombarded with non-useful links.

Pretty much everything I have included does mention the duo as a notable producers and have them listed with production credits. I will go through and remove some of the links which do not directly apply, but is there anything else I can do to get this page approved?

Their songs have been nominated for Grammy Awards and have been released by major labels. I would like to understand how I can make this page more applicable for Wikipedia.

Thank you!

Aliciasue.cote (talk) 21:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Aliciasue.cote, I went through 20 random links. Only three of them even mentioned Take Daytrip and zero of them in an either reliable, or a significant manner. I would highly recommend reading the articles that have been linked to you multiple times now if you truly are interested in correcting this article. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:46, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Rejection of draft-Please help

Dear Sulfurboy, my recent article submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vladperez/sandbox was rejected by you due to that this topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia and this submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. I have reviewed the article and added new valid references and content to it. I have checked the Wikipedia:Notability and the subject of the article is an insurance agency that is not currently listed in Wikipedia. Currently, there are articles for other related companies such as Geico, Progressive, and Infinity. I have also checked the Wikipedia:Five pillars and I don’t see why this submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Could you please advise how to improve this article in order to be published? I am a new user, and I am looking to improve as much as possible. I would really appreciate your feedback and look forward to hearing from you soon. Thank you in advance!Vladperez (talk) 22:28, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Vladperez, The article has been outright rejected. It will not be considered any further. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:29, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Prince Leonard

I have declined your G6 for Prince Leonard. It's not clear to me that Draft:Leonard Casley should be moved to that name (as opposed to Leonard Casley. Maybe it should but it's got a tad too much editorial judgement in my mind for a G6. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Barkeep49, Hmm, not sure what happened, I don't know if I somehow clicked the wrong redirect or something else was moved in the meantime by Robert McClenon as he was trying to clear space, but my intent was to request CSD for Leonard Casley. Again, not sure what happened, as a lot of redirects coming from different places seem to be a hot mess right now and I'm probably not the best at sorting it out. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:42, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:52:02, 2 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Djb2183

• Djb2183 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Barry's Bootcamp (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey, thanks for the feedback on this page for Barry's. Can you please give me some specific detail on how or where it reads like an ad? I'm happy to adjust where necessary, but I thought I wrote this in a pretty neutral, objective tone, and I cited a ton of reputable sources. Thanks for your help!

Djb2183 (talk) 22:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Social Ecology entry submission

Dear Sulfurboy. Thank you for reviewing my draft entry on social ecology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Social_Ecology. I'd like to get some clarification regarding your rejection (29 February 2020). You wrote:

"This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research."

I'm a little confused because the entry is a summary of social ecology, which of course entails stating the social-political positions associated with this tradition as well as its critics. In my revisions I've added a few more words to make it clear I'm describing this point of view, not endorsing it. But I'd appreciate it if you would identify specific examples where you believe it reads "like an essay" or places where it "contains opinions." Most of the references are in fact the same that can found on the Murray Bookchin wiki page, including books from academic publishers, articles from academic journals, and the New York Times. The texts I cite are either secondary sources on social ecology, or primary sources to give direct examples of the ideas under consideration.

You also wrote: "Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner. This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject."

Again, if you could point to specific excerpts you feel are not neutral or formal in tone, and terms you feel are "peacock." The only I could imagine was the line stating Bookchin is a "pioneering environmental thinker," but this is in fact true - he's one of the foundational figure of political ecology. As his wiki page states: "A pioneer in the ecology movement,[4] Bookchin formulated..."

I publish regularly in peer-reviewed academic journals and am familiar with conventions regarding scholarly tone; I have a hard time seeing where you think this text deviates from those norms. I also had a professional editor look at the text, they also found it to be descriptive rather than normative.

Thanks again for your time, looking forward to your response.

LewisOakleyHerber (talk) 22:56, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance. I've made the required changes.

I updated the article "William Cooper (American Rapper)" to clearly disambiguate from the Author William Cooper.

Thanks for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentle Jones (talk • contribs) 23:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Page mover granted

Hello, Sulfurboy. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

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Useful links:

• Wikipedia:Requested moves
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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 23:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 06:40:56, 3 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by GiedreCasaite

• GiedreCasaite (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Public Anthropologist (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

If my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Public_Anthropologist can't be published due to the lack of notability, why for example this draft is published https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matatu_(journal) with less information and lack of notability as well?

GiedreCasaite (talk) 06:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

GiedreCasaite, You're welcome to nominate that page for deletion if you wish. I didn't make/approve/perform edits on that page at all so I'm not sure why you're asking me. You should focus on your own article instead of attempting to bring others down and I'd advise reading WP:INN as well. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:42, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Yehiel Gozal

Hi there, I saw what you wrote but I dont really understand... there are 7 References and 5 Links, also there is the Hebrew version. The whole thing is just to add more cites? there are many many more.. Thanks, Dovlib19 (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2020 (UTC).

New page for Diamond Guitar Pedals

Hey, thanks for reviewing my submission for a Diamond Pedals Wikipedia page. I will add more links to external sources, but I note that the article currently has similar references as other boutique guitar pedal manufactures, such as Wampler Pedals and Keeley Electronics, which are very similar companies. I would appreciate and advice you might be able to give, since I really do think Diamond warrants a Wikipedia page.

Many Thanks! Matthewasears (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Writing about a company

Hi, I am trying to write an article about an architecture company UArchitects (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UArchitects) but it is declined more than once. I have seen some articles on wikipedia with same format with a list of company awards for example CEBRA. Can you kindly tell me how I can publish this article without making it sound like an advertisement? And how can I list the data about the company's awards and projects? Thank you for your help.--Meimaar.93 (talk) 08:49, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Meimaar.93, The entire article is basically a menagerie of the companies (mostly non-notable) awards. That's not what wikipedia is for and that is not what makes for a formal, neutral article. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Wingsuit BASE jumping

This article Draft:Wingsuit BASE jumping was declined because there is already a section in "Wingsuit flying" about "Wingsuit BASE": Wingsuit_flying#Wingsuit_BASE. However, wingsuit BASE jumping is a sub-discipline of wingsuit flying. Wingsuit skydiving is not the same as wingsuit BASE. And there is a huge amount of detail and content in the new article that is missing from the more general "wingsuit flying" article.

My goal was to reduce the content in the "wingsuit flying" article abount BASE, and move it to the new article here. Is that not okay? I believe wingsuit BASE jumping is notable on it's own, there are 100s of articles and papers about Wingsuit BASE specifically to support it's own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWingsuit (talk • contribs) 16:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiWingsuit, You need to create an article that goes much more in depth than what is already available on the aforementioned mainspace article. The content on the article you submitted was not enough more yet to justify its own article. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

‪Commelina ciliata

And thank you for taking interest in an obscure Australian plant! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commelina_ciliata MerielGJones (talk) 09:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Not being paid

I am not being paid. GriffinTGA (talk) 12:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello there

Hello can you please check the article you reviewed Daft:Fredokiss i saw your the reason posted and i have improve and edited. Thank you waiting for your review. Mwnive5 (talk) 14:36, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

My bad i meant Draft:Fredokiss Mwnive5 (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Fredokiss is one of the mojor artist in africa malawi including Gwamba taygrin am here to help Wikipedia by contributing africa artist articles as you suggested i have improve the article and ready to start another one just waiting for your approval thank you. Mwnive5 (talk) 14:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

RE: William Cooper (Record Producer)

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:William_Cooper_(Record_Producer)

Thank you kindly for your response.

After your initial response, I agreed that the references should be updated. And I updated the article title for disambiguation. I apologize if I did anything ham-fisted. Its simply because I post so rarely.

I only update Wikipedia when I have something to say. The tools built in are useful and powerful, however since I only add occasionally, I end up doing an hour or two of coding. Which is fine, I think it works for me and I am willing to learn it better. I am an expert in this particular article's subject, but not an expert at Wikipedia. But I am trying.

I also realize the discography its not entirely referenced. However, I can indeed link every release to a discogs.com page. They do exist and the dates and personnel are correct. I see many other artists on Wikipedia have a secondary page for discographies, but since William Cooper is not on wikipedia yet (except for references in other articles already published) I don't know how to place the discography on a secondary page like other artists. I am happy to delete the discography and once the main article is published I can create the secondary article with a table more in line with what most other music artists have listed.

Please let me know if you want me to link each release to a discogs.com page or nuke the entire discography from this article. I am happy to update as needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentle Jones (talk • contribs) 19:37, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Gentle Jones, I again advise you to read the links already provided. Discogs is not a reliable source. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Article content is authorized, I am the Finance Director of the organization

Good evening Mr. Sulfurboy,

I please request you contemplate the approval of the article since we want to have presence in Wikipedia as we think it would be important for our community. El Centro Hispano has consistently proven its worth to the community of Arkansas as a whole and would be greatly benefited by this appearance on such a reputable online encyclopedia.

I thank you for your time and consideration,

Kind regards,

Leandro Braslavsky El Centro Hispano Finance Director

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:El_Centro_Hispano_en_Arkansas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leandrob1 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Leandrob1, We don't include subjects just because it would benefit that subject. We also highly discourage people associated with a subject from writing about it. You will need to read and follow all of our policies closely if you insist on continuing to create this article. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I will. Thanks for your time and your advise.

Leandro Leandrob1 (talk) 15:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Your declining on a draft I created

Hi, I saw you recently declined my draft Draft:Garissone Innocent. I replied to you on that page, but:

1. you kind of misunderstood me;
2. I have a feeling that it is not the right place for replying.

Therefore, I've visited your talk page to clarify myself.

When I replied to your comment, I meant that it's quite likely that the subject would be notable in a few years (possibly 1 or 2). (I guess you understood that part.) But I wasn't asking for you to accept it right away. Rather, I meant that since Innocent would "probably" be notable soon, I'd like to know if you think that this draft should be listed as "promising". After all, I have a few other drafts to work on, and given my workload it seems likely that it might be deleted under G13. Besides, adding it to the category Promising drafts brings them to more people's attention (at least for me ;) ), so I'd like to ask if you agree to placing this "promising draft" tag on the draft. Thanks! tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 05:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The Lord of Math, You can add whatever tag you want to to the article, its your article. However, this doesn't guarantee against it not being deleted in six months Sulfurboy (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

@Sulfurboy: I guess you didn't understand how {{promising draft}} works. The thing is, it should not be placed by the page author, and if it is placed it would postpone G13 deletion. So I'm here to ask you if you'd agree that the topic is "promising" and if you would place that template on the draft. Thanks, and I hope I've made myself clearer! tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 15:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The Lord of Math, No interest. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:08, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Scarlett Sabet Wiki Page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Scarlett_Sabet

Hi there.

I have never ignored or bypassed this as the previous edit comment suggests, I disclosed in one of my earliest edits that I was writing on behalf of the company I work for - I do concede that I may have done it incorrectly, though, so thank you for clearing that up for me. My page is now suitably updated with the disclosure.

Does this mean the now heavily media-sourced article is suitably updated, or is there anything else I need to add or change to meet the Wikipedia guidelines? Given that Scarlett is referenced as the official partner of Jimmy Page on his page, as well as in numerous publications for her contributions to the poetry world, it seems that claims that she is unsuitable for her own page are unfounded.

I understand that you must do a lot of editing and that this can be a tiresome, fruitless labour at times, so thank you for your contributions to making Wikipedia an accurate and informative place and for your patience with my edits. Do let me know if there are still errors to amend.

Best, Megan — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeganThomas94 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

MeganThomas94You have not properly disclosed on the draft page. The article is also still riddled with unreliable sources. If you truly are thankful for my "tiresome, fruitless labour" then please make a point of actually reading our policies instead of making contributions even more tiresome and fruitless. Or better yet, cease entirely your edits on the subject, and cease the unethical paid for editing as you have an inherent bias and conflict of interest.Sulfurboy (talk) 15:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

What qualifies as reference???

04 Mar. 2020 I'm new. Maybe I'm missing something. I wrote an article on an historically significant subject using six published newspaper references and the article was rejected for lack of authentication. Many of the incidents cited are 100 years old. It is not a well publicized event. Newspaper articles are about the only documentation that exists. I'm at a loss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Barbara_Fritchie_Classic_Motorcycle_Race

Zook — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.30.109 (talk) 18:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The problem isn't with the sources already provided, the problem is that there's no shown coverage that isn't just WP:LOCAL

regarding review

Hi. Thank you for reviewing my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ine_Back_Iversen I'm sorry it could not be approved and i am trying to correct it, but i am having trouble finding the area of the article that is problematic. Ive connected to the wiki help chat to have other editors look at it and they couldn't see see the mistake wither so i would love to connect with you and see what i can do to get it approved.

Terminalbud (talk) 19:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Terminalbud, The reason is clearly outlined in the decline message. Inline citations are required of all claims made in a biography of a living person. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Redirect to my recently made article Fjärilar i magen (Darin album)

Hello! I recently made a page for the studio album Fjärilar i magen (Darin album), but did not realize that it existed a redirect already to, what I believe is, the Darin Zanyar page. I don't know if I did something wrong making that article now, and I was just wondering if there is a way to redirect from the page to my article instead. I will look deeper for redirects the next time I make an article, unfortunately I noticed it too late this time. I wanted to make the article since there were only articles for his English albums, which I found pretty unfortunate. Thanks in advance! Zandor (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

DariuZzandor, I've requested the redirect to be removed so that the album page can be put in place. Just keep an eye out for when an admin deletes it and I can help get this moved into place. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I would like to make an article for the album "Tvillingen" by him also, but since it also redirects to Darin Zanyar, is there anything I must do before creating the article? I don't want to give you more work than you already have so I would like to help out as much as I possibly can. Thank you again! Zandor (talk) 19:50, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

DariuZzandor, You can always check with me. I don't mind that. However, I've been known to without warning disappear for years, so I might not be the most reliable outlet. In which case, you can always go to the Teahouse for help. The Teahouse is also a great outlet for anything Wikipedia related that you might need help with. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I understand :) I appreciate that you take the time to help me, I'm new to creating articles so your tips are very helpful. We'll see if I get enough information to make the article about "Tvillingen", is it okay if I get back to you If that happens and we can see if you want/ have the time to help me with it? I will check out the Treehouse also, for sure. Zandor (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Bad Cop/Bad Cop - Not adequately supported by reliable sources.

Dear Sulfurboy, since this is my first submission I obviously trust your opinion and judgment, and I'm sorry to have sent twice an article that was very similar to its first version (in fact I had just add two more links as a ref) but the few changes I've made were done following two very similar articles related two other two bands with similar timing and coverage than the one I'm trying to add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masked_Intruder - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bombpops) I am telling this just to properly understand at which point the source became reliable and enough "strong" if you can make me a parallel example so that I can clearly understand. Thanks for your help and patience in this matter. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paiskurt (talk • contribs) 19:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Paiskurt, I would recommend reading the articles linked to you. It should become very apparent and clear afterwards what are and aren't considered reliable along with what is required for notability. I'm not sure why you are pointing out the other two articles to me. I didn't approve them or make any edits to them. If you feel they do not follow wikipedia policy, you are welcome to nominate them for nomination. See also WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 19:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy, Thanks again fro your reply, I did read the article and at point 5) says "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)" which both the band and the label, Fat Wreck Chords, seems to me to respect this criteria. Thank you also for the other article linked it made me clear other aspects. Paiskurt (talk) 21:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Paiskurt, I'm going to fix the article enough so that it passes our guidelines. I grew up listening to NOFX and have loved them and Fat Mike for decades now, so I think 16 year old me would be disappointed if I didn't. With that being said, although this will be approved and hit mainspace, I'm going to tag it with some things that you need to do to improve the article further. The biggest one being is that this article hinges almost entirely on primary sources. You will need to add secondary sources, (news coverage) before that tag can be removed. For your edification in future articles you may create, the reason you were being declined (if you re-read the decline notice), is not because the subject wasn't notable, but instead because the provided sources didn't prove that notability. Make sure this is done in the future. You're going to see me make some edits coming up. I would recommend not editing it until its on mainspace and you get a notice saying that the article has been reviewed on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy, thank you very much, sincerely, for your help and patience, I will look for that (or those) secondary sources in order to improve the quality of the article along with more info and an image, again thanks. Paiskurt (talk) 21:27, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed

Hello, Sulfurboy

Thank you for creating Bad Cop/Bad Cop.

User:Sulfurboy, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

You're good to go now. Feel free to edit the page as you wish. I'll keep it on my watchlist, but ping me if anyone gives you trouble about notability concerns.

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Sulfurboy (talk) 21:37, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

No undisclosed payments

I am not being paid in any form. GriffinTGA (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:01:54, 4 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito

• Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Masha's Tales (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito 22:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Please I Need of help The adminitrators Of Wikpedia no accept The Page Draft:Masha's Tales I want This In wikipedia Like a Articule again And The Page Will changed the Name For Draft Help Me SAFESUBST

I Need of help

I Need help because Of Draft:Masha's Tales I Want my article Back Please. Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito 22:04, 4 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito (talk • contribs)

A kitten for you!

I hope you like cats.

Tina Rosco (talk) 22:48, 4 March 2020 (UTC)