User talk:Stillwaterising/Archive 4

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Regarding COI

I appreciate your vigour in trying to establish good practice at Wikipedia. WP:COI is a guideline, however, not a policy, and its adherence is in no way required. The term "conflict of interest" typically implies a monetary gain and having an employer, as the article mentions. The fact that I am a Baha'i doesn't in itself imply a COI, it's whether I fail to comply with policies, which I do. I contribute productively to articles, and just like Jeff3000, have often upheld policy of Wikipedia over what one could easily see as the best interests of the Baha'i Faith. The reasons you listed are irrelevant to establishing COI, and I think your assumption that I "feel strongly against homosexuality" is false, and its relevancy to my comment on the AFD discussion is a major red herring. I believe without doubt that the article on Unitarian Baha'ism does not meet notability and verifiability requirements, and I'll stand by that. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 08:59, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I just read this and I think it's relevant to the discussion of COI and the attitude of Baha'is editing Wikipedia. It's in the book, Revelation and Social Reality, by Paul Lample, who is a current member of the Universal House of Justice.

"Thus, each practice has its own body of knowledge, its own criteria for justification, and its own methods of investigating reality and discovering truth. Different practices may interact and, through the exchange of ideas, influence one another; but change occurs as a result of a practice affirming new conclusions based on its own criteria. An individual is usually a member of more than one community of practice, and therefore, is able to contribute to change within a particular practice by introducing new insights from others.
...
Disciplines such as economics, philosophy, history or religious studies give rise to their own communities of practice. They have their own bodies of knowledge, standards and methods with which they explore reality and come to understandings that guide judgment and action. Baha'is who are participants in such academic communities of practice are correct to point out that they are obliged to conform to the accepted range of methods, criteria, and truths." (pp. 124-125)

I hope that clarifies a bit my approach to Wikipedia, which is a community of practice with its own standards and guidelines that I feel compelled to support. WP is primarily not searching after truth, it is a compilation of verifiable and reliable sources, and such an encyclopedia is incredibly useful. I also support the Baha'i Faith, which has its own standards and guidelines, and provides something that Wikipedia can never provide. Supporting both at the same time does not leave a conflict of interest. Regards. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 22:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

General apology

For the last several month 've been suffering from extreme insomnia. My doctor says it's from a combination of pain and stress. in the last few weeks I've averaged about 20 hours of sleep per week. If I seem irritable please forgive me. - Stillwaterising (talk) 20:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I hope you get caught up for find the cause. I've gone through shorter periods of insomnia for a few nights. It can really take on one's outlook on life. Smkolins (talk) 19:44, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Haven't really found a cause, but I have finally found a medicine that works. I've been getting 6 hours a night the last two nights and it's made an amazing difference. - 21:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Well that's a big plus. Good luck! Smkolins (talk) 22:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pedophilia Article Watch

Please see the above page for a response to your query there. __meco (talk) 22:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

another case of rescueing an article if you are interested

It's one of my early articles and I never went back to it for a long time. Because of the discussion about deleting it I went ahead and cleaned it up allot. I'd be interested in how you see things having been experienced in the issues of rescuing articles.see A Practical Reference to Religious Diversity for Operational Police and Emergency Services Smkolins (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I've got my hands full with the new Commons sexual content guidelines. - Stillwaterising (talk) 21:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Kali's teeth bracelet

First off, if you mean "notability", then please say say "notability", instead of using a confusing and cryptic obscure acronym like "GNG"[sic] -- I clicked on Wikipedia:GNG, and I still have no idea whatsoever what "GNG"[sic] is supposed to stand for... Second, your deletion tagging doesn't provide any explanation as to what has changed since this article went through a formal deletion nomination and survived, and I'm removing it for that reason... AnonMoos (talk) 16:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

By the way, just to satisfy my idle curiosity, what does "GNG"[sic] actually stand for? AnonMoos (talk) 17:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
GENERAL NOTABILITY GUIDELINES - Stillwaterising (talk) 18:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Whatever -- the typical person could easily read through Wikipedia:Notability several times and still not catch that, which makes the use of a cryptic "GNG" acronym as the only explanation offered for a proposed article deletion rather obtusely annoying. AnonMoos (talk) 03:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

":::are you aware of the difficulty of finding conventional sources in this sort of subject, where most material is published via mainstream routes? I agree they need to be sourced, and I am prepared to source them, but it takes me a week or so to deal with a single one of them, unless I drop everything else entirely. I think you;re being a little unfair to the possibilities of keeping these articles in WP. DGG ( talk ) 04:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

  • I'm well aware that obscure topics are hard to source, and sometimes must be merged as a result. Take a look at Heather Harmon. Most of the work on that I did in a week, while I was working full-time, and it survived the Afd. I would suggest you stop fighting the nominator and either find the sources, or accept the merge. Thanks. - Stillwaterising (talk) 10:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
as you just said, it takes a week to do one article. Nominate only one a week, and I can keep up. I am not fighting the nominator--I am however trying to resist what I consider to be unfair practices in nominating articles. If you have an interest in the subject field, why not examine the appropriate magazines for sources yourself before nominating. ? I could easily fill in web sources of a sort, but we should try for something better. DGG ( talk ) 17:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I can't withdraw the nomination at this point, it's been seconded and then some by other users with their Delete votes. - Stillwaterising (talk) 23:02, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Pandora's Box (BDSM)

Hello Stillwaterising. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Pandora's Box (BDSM), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of notability, including being the topic of a documentary film and of newspaper coverage. Thank you. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 17:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure this company meets WP:COMPANY, however I'm too busy with other things right now. Removing the CSD is fine by me. - Stillwaterising (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spanking Love (2nd nomination)

In noting your comment "One of the purposes of Afd's is to force users to "improve it or remove it."" at the AFD, I wish to share these multiples of diffs which show a project-wide disagreement with that notion. And yes, we both realize that AFD does indeed often result in improvements... even when it was not intentionally used to force such actions. Its just that perception that AFD might be used in that manner bumps up hard against consensus. Just sayin'. But thank you for acknowledging the improvements. Always nice to know one's work is appreciated. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

AFD in this case was used mostly for articles where no sources had been found and articles were not newly created. I used some PRODS and a few talk page messages too, not just the AFD tool. - Stillwaterising (talk) 03:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Commons admins

I don't know whether Commons even has an arbitration process, let alone how it operates. Any dispute resolution would have to be on that site.

Or do you mean arbitration with users on Wikipedia who also happen to be Commons admins? En.wp ArbCom does not have jurisdiction over anything that happens on Commons. Cool Hand Luke 14:06, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, apparently not. I'm not fond of Commons. Good luck! Cool Hand Luke 15:59, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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Futanari

Hi, I didn't insert that image into the article, I reverted the deletion because the only reason given was that Wikipedia should not display porn and Wikipedia isn't censored. The illustration was pertinent to the article and any illustration for futanari would be porn by definition. If there are other problems, copyright, etc with the illustration, I don't know about them. You seem to think the illustration is child porn but the figures involved look adult to me with full breasts and erect penises - I think you're wildly overreacting to chimera but I have no plans to reinsert the image. Cherryblossom1982 (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

The image in question was put up for deletion on Commons and was kept - you can see the results of the debate here. The arguments for keep there would be largely relevant to any decision to keep/delete here on EN. Also, looking at this edit, I am going to ask you to think carefully of what you're doing as you might run afoul of WP:LEGAL. Tabercil (talk) 23:57, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I have made no threats or made any legal action; Wp:legal is not in play here. Any actions I have taken to remove the image are covered under the Good Samaritan protection of 47 U.S.C. § 230. The law in play is 18 U.S.C. § 1466A and my understanding is anybody who creates, uploads, inserts, or possesses such images by use of the internet is in violation of this statute. - Stillwaterising (talk) 00:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
The creatures depicted in that cartoon are clearly not of the human species, so I don't see where there's any legal issue here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 09:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Consider this a final warning to stop the edit warring and legal nonsense. Brandon (talk) 09:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

To expand on this, since my close notice is gone. Any further removal of the image without clear consensus on the talk page will result in a block. As well as any discussion on the legality of the image outside the thread you've created on the article's talk. Warning editors they may be breaking the law is not appropriate. Brandon (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

The image

Look, I admire your concern, but now that you have reported the image to the authorities, you might want to back off. You've done your part, the authorities will take care of it now. It doesn't matter if the image stands in the article for the amount of time that it takes the authorities to check it out, because, in the end, if the image was indeed problematic, it will get taken down...but if it isn't, then it will stay. Just to keep yourself out of trouble, I would, were I you, back off and let others handle it. I notice your userpage says you're from Austin, TX. The weather in Austin right now is practically amazing, so I recommend that you take the opportunity to go gaze for a while at the stars, take a walk, or perhaps go for a nocturnal bike ride. Just do something that causes yourself less stress and hassle, please? Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 03:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed, upon reading more than the first line of your userpage, that it says you are disabled. In the event this is a physical disability, then I apologize if my suggestions to take a walk or go for a bike ride may have offended you. Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 22:09, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
No worries. I can walk limited distances. It was good advice, saved me lost sleep and possibly more problems. - Stillwaterising (talk) 22:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Copyvio

Hi, the copy of Administrator abuse on Wikipedia you have made here is a WP:COPYVIO (see WP:Copying within Wikipedia) and is also generally frowned upon while an AfD is ongoing. You should request userfication if the article is deleted. Best, Verbal chat 20:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

A possible solution would be to nominate for speedy deletion yourself and the request userfication. Note that one of the original authors has already got a copy in his own userspace. Verbal chat 21:25, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. I wasn't aware of that policy. - Stillwaterising (talk) 23:21, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

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Proposal to shut down WP Geographic Coordinates & ban coordinates on wikipedia articles

This means you. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I hope this nonsense about "banning" geo coords in WP articles is nonsense. They are in fact very useful. =//= Johnny Squeaky 02:13, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Cat Hoax

You are quite right about Cream Puff the cat, purported to having been the oldest living cat at 38, born in 1967. The *fact* is, the cat model know as "Sphinx" did not exist in 1968, being a genetic mutation that cam along much later. So, this story is simply not possible. I've labeled the article as "hoax" with the "hoax" tag. I'd suggest an AfD but all the nutters would come out of the wood work. By the way, I am a cat nut myself, but this story simply isn't factual. =//= Johnny Squeaky 03:41, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

I have a friend in Austin who claims that Jake Perry is her plumber. I no longer live in Austin, however I would still love to interview Perry about Granpa and Creme Puff and see what the facts are in this matter. Stillwaterising (talk) 17:44, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Cats *can* live to be quite old. The key is to building an actual "relationship" with your cat. Cats are smart, and respond to equal intellectual footing, if you can imagine that. I had a female Maine Coon that lived to be 22 (I know this because she was 2 when I met my wife 20 years ago). I've had cats live as long as 17. Much beyond 15 years is icing on the cake for a cat, and as I said, having a good social / intellectual relationship with an owner is, I think, the key. All my cats were of course proficient at second year calculus, and spend many hours a day gazing into space while differentiating random formulas - a little know secret in my house is that my cats actually did all my math homework and some of my philosophy homework.. NO KIDDING! =//= Johnny Squeaky 01:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

My Experience with Acupunture

This statement is copied verbatim from my declaration in Talk:Acupuncture#"Myofascial meridians":

I have also had a conversation with User:Mallexikon on his talk page about my experiences with acupuncture:


There's much more to say on this topic. If you feel like asking me a question please do! - Stillwaterising (talk) 10:55, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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Free database, primary source and review sources

Hello there. Thanks for replying to my comment at WT:MED. Are you sure one can use google scholar to identify all the review (and only the review articles) that cite an individual primary study? If there is a free way to do this I would like to know. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 19:07, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the software suggestion. I enjoyed the wiki get together. Guðsþegn (talk) 22:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Barnstar of Good Humor
So while not technically a Wikipedia contribution, your username made me laugh. As a meteorology student at the University of Oklahoma there's a joke about how Stillwater (Stillwater, Oklahoma) is hydrostatic and thus neither rising nor falling, and your username reminds me of that every time I see it. =) Ks0stm (TCGE) 06:59, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! I picked this username as a way of portraying a meditation of a calm engergy (visualized as water) that is increasing slowly so as to remain still/without motion, yet will eventualy overflow and flood its surroundings (like a slowly over-filled swimming pool). I'm glad you enjoyed the paradox. - Stillwaterising (talk) 04:17, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Nice to see you around the wiki, Huggling away. :) I hadn't seen your username pop up in my watchlist for a long time. Steven Walling • talk 07:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I've come out of retirement from editing and have been enjoying myself. Ty for the recognition and welcome. --- Stillwaterising (talk) 08:18, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Out of Retirement

I've resumed my activities on a trial basis. My retirement from Wikipedia was an act of protest to the policies and treatment of volunteers (including myself) handed down from Staff. I had found that my involvement here was a net-negative and chose to retire. One week out of retirement so far so good. I'm taking a wait and see attitude. - Stillwaterising (talk) 17:53, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see things were not enjoyable for you. Let me know on my talk page if there is anything I could do to help. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 19:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Well I'm happy things are going well so far. =) Thanks for the note. Happy editing, and please still let me know if there's anything I can do to assist. Biosthmors (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
I see you've retired. I wish you well in your non-Wikipedia endeavors. Feel free to contact me again if you wish if you return. Best. Biosthmors (talk) 01:17, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:Top 200 US Drugs of 2011

Hi! Would you care to comment on WT:PHARM#WHO Model Lists of Essential Medicines? Thanks, and happy editing! --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I guess I should have gone to the project talk page sooner, however I sometimes would rather get the job done first, then talk about it after it's ready to go. - Stillwaterising (talk) 07:12, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I would appreciate if you would comment on WT:PHARM#WHO Model Lists of Essential Medicines where I have made an additional suggestion. Per the CfD discussion, I think it is pretty clear that these category names must not contain the year. Boghog (talk) 05:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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My Retirement

I've had an interesting time on Wikipedia. Had some good experiences, (and not so good ones). I have a wish Wikipedia, and Wikipedians, well however I have other things I must do. (To be continued?) - Stillwaterising (talk) 23:26, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello sorry to get back to you so late. I deleted so much info off of the List of Awards and Nominations for Melanie C because it was only on a talk page, and so I put it on an actual page that can be seen and referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylord014 (talkcontribs) 21:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Project citation clean-up (or whatever it's called)

I notice you have a special interest in medical stuff. I suggest you hie yourself over to new user Anna Karolina Heinrich who has added a page about Waldemar Olszewski. He is a Polish expert in matters lymphatic, and has written several armsful of papers and books. I did make a start with {{cite pmid}} but got confused with two apparently different papers sharing the same number (more than once). In fact documentation for {{cite pmid}} was sparse and confusing.

I'm OK checking general citations, it's the specialized ones I find a bit tricky. I don't think said user Anna has English as first language, but it's good enough. Many of the doctor's works are in not-English, principally Polish.

Enjoy! John of Cromer in Philippines (talk) mytime= Mon 00:36, wikitime= 16:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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Life Update - Wikimedia paid admins suggestion

Well, it's been 10 months since I've made an edit. I'm doing better, mentally at least. I moved out of my old apartment with toxic black mold (Stachybotrys) and 2milligauss of background powerline radiation into a quieter yet livelier community. My health ain't great but at least my mental state is better.

I'm not sure I really want to spent most of my spare time "Wikipeding" like I used to. My enthusiasm for the Project has waned. I view Wikimedia Corp. as a "for-profit non-profit". The "product" is the encyclopedia and the buyers are the search engine companies (Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc.). The "workers" are all unpaid volunteers, who often pour their heart and soul into The Project.

Last I looked, Wikimedia was making $10M profit. That would be enough to pay it's admins (many of whom are retired or on disability or otherwise low income) minimum/living wage for the most important (and tedious functions) such as Vandal Patrol and other admin functions. Just an idea. Any suggestions? - Stillwaterising (talk) 04:56, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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A little late but I did, thanks! - Stillwaterising (talk)
Need you email to give you access
Hey Stillwaterising, could you email me at wikiocaasi yahoo.com so I have your email address to get you your access code? Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 19:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Neat news: BMJ is offering 25 free, full-access accounts to their prestigious medical journal through The Wikipedia Library and Wiki Project Med Foundation (like we did with Cochrane). Please sign up this week: Wikipedia:BMJ --Cheers, Ocaasi via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Medical Translation Newsletter


 

Wikiproject Medicine; Translation Taskforce

 

Medical Translation Newsletter
Issue 1, June/July 2014
by CFCF, Doc James

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This is the first of a series of newsletters for Wikiproject Medicine's Translation Task Force. Our goal is to make all the medical knowledge on Wikipedia available to the world, in the language of your choice.

note: you will not receive future editions of this newsletter unless you *sign up*; you received this version because you identify as a member of WikiProject Medicine

Spotlight - Simplified article translation


Wikiproject Medicine started translating simplified articles in February 2014. We now have 45 simplified articles ready for translation, of which the first on African trypanosomiasis or sleeping sickness has been translated into 46 out of ~100 languages. This list does not include the 33 additional articles that are available in both full and simple versions.

Our goal is to eventually translate 1,000 simplified articles. This includes:

We are looking for subject area leads to both create articles and recruit further editors. We need people with basic medical knowledge who are willing to help out. This includes to write, translate and especially integrate medical articles.

What's happening?


IEG grant
 
CFCF - "IEG beneficiary" and editor of this newsletter.

I've (CFCF) taken on the role of community organizer for this project, and will be working with this until December. The goals and timeline can be found here, and are focused on getting the project on a firm footing and to enable me to work near full-time over the summer, and part-time during the rest of the year. This means I will be available for questions and ideas, and you can best reach me by mail or on my talk page.

Wikimania 2014

For those going to London in a month's time (or those already nearby) there will be at least one event for all medical editors, on Thursday August 7th. See the event page, which also summarizes medicine-related presentations in the main conference. Please pass the word on to your local medical editors.

Integration progress

There has previously been some resistance against translation into certain languages with strong Wikipedia presence, such as Dutch, Polish, and Swedish.
What was found is that thre is hardly any negative opinion about the the project itself; and any such critique has focused on the ways that articles have being integrated. For an article to be usefully translated into a target-Wiki it needs to be properly Wiki-linked, carry proper citations and use the formatting of the chosen target language as well as being properly proof-read. Certain large Wikis such as the Polish and Dutch Wikis have strong traditions of medical content, with their own editorial system, own templates and different ideas about what constitutes a good medical article. For example, there are not MEDRS (Polish,German,Romanian,Persian) guidelines present on other Wikis, and some Wikis have a stronger background of country-specific content.

  • Swedish
    Translation into Swedish has been difficult in part because of the amount of free, high quality sources out there already: patient info, for professionals. The same can be said for English, but has really given us all the more reason to try and create an unbiased and free encyclopedia of medical content. We want Wikipedia to act as an alternative to commercial sources, and preferably a really good one at that.
    Through extensive collaborative work and by respecting links and Sweden specific content the last unintegrated Swedish translation went live in May.
  • Dutch
    Dutch translation carries with it special difficulties, in part due to the premises in which the Dutch Wikipedia is built upon. There is great respect for what previous editors have created, and deleting or replacing old content can be frowned upon. In spite of this there are success stories: Anafylaxie.
  • Polish
    Translation and integration into Polish also comes with its own unique set of challenges. The Polish Wikipedia has long been independent and works very hard to create high quality contentfor Polish audience. Previous translation trouble has lead to use of unique templates with unique formatting, not least among citations. Add to this that the Polish Wikipedia does not allow template redirects and a large body of work is required for each article.
    (This is somewhat alleviated by a commissioned Template bot - to be released). - List of articles for integration
  • Arabic
    The Arabic Wikipedia community has been informed of the efforts to integrate content through both the general talk-page as well as through one of the major Arabic Wikipedia facebook-groups: مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربي, something that has been heralded with great enthusiasm.
Integration guides

Integration is the next step after any translation. Despite this it is by no means trivial, and it comes with its own hardships and challenges. Previously each new integrator has needed to dive into the fray with little help from previous integrations. Therefore we are creating guides for specific Wikis that make integration simple and straightforward, with guides for specific languages, and for integrating on small Wikis.

Instructions on how to integrate an article may be found here [3]

News in short


To come
  • Medical editor census - Medical editors on different Wikis have been without proper means of communication. A preliminary list of projects is available here.
  • Proofreading drives

Further reading



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If you are receiving this newsletter without having signed up, it is because you have signed up as a member of the Translation Taskforce, or Wiki Project Med on meta. 22:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Topic ban

This is just a reminder that the topic ban enacted by Adjwilley is still active against this account, despite your resurrection of this old account name. You are further warned that any overlap in editing between this account and User:Technophant may be viewed as violating WP:ILLEGIT, so you must be extremely careful to avoid any appearance that this account is being used to preserve edits formerly made by Technophant.—Kww(talk) 03:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

@Adjwilley Don't worry, I know the rules. I was planning on deactivating or semi-retiring my other "new start" account and editing using mostly/mainly/or entirely this one. Now that the cats out of the bag how do you think I should proceed coming out "coming out" (of retirement)? - Technophant (talk) 03:25, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
As I said: very carefully. The way you removed the linkage between Technophant and Stillwaterising while leaving Technophant as an active member of WikiProject Medicine came very close to prima facie evidence of an intent to deceive in my book: I very nearly blocked both accounts without any warning at all. My first piece of advice is to place large notices on both user pages that inform everyone that the two accounts belong to the same editor. My next piece of advice is that you do not touch any article that contains any alternative medicine content whatsoever.—Kww(talk) 03:52, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I've made my decision to edit with only one account and the account I wish to retain is the most recent one. I'm going to deactivate this account. Please do not reply here. Stillwaterising (talk) 06:41, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Account Retired

I've decided to declare this account inactive. Just coming back here brings back bad memories. I will continue to edit only my alternate account User:Technophant. I was hoping to have a better coming out party, I guess I should have not returned to old debate at acupuncture that did not need to be rekindled. Stillwaterising (talk) 06:48, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/The 50,000 Challenge

  You are invited to participate in the 50,000 Challenge, aiming for 50,000 article improvements and creations for articles relating to the United States. This effort began on November 1, 2016 and to reach our goal, we will need editors like you to participate, expand, and create. See more here!

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:40, 8 November 2016 (UTC)