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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Globe Telecom Logo.png)

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Fair use rationale for Image:Globe_Telecom_Logo.png

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Image:ATM_Bersama.png

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Image:ATM_Bersama.png

I have tagged Image:ATM_Bersama.png as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. Alpta 17:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:BPI Direct Logo.png

Image Copyright problem

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Image source problem with Image:BSJ Logo.png

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Image source problem with Image:Candon.gif

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username change on en.wikibooks

Please confirm (on this page, logged in) that you have requested username usurpation on en.wikibooks. Thanks! --SB_Johnny | ^PA! 11:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes I did. --Sky Harbor 12:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, you've been renamed :). --SB_Johnny | ^PA! 09:23, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --Sky Harbor 12:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

WMPH in Manila 3

Hey, you haven't been commenting on Manila 3... WMPH is the main agenda item... you have to be there :) --Nino Gonzales 01:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:NYC Logo.png

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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 05:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Voting for the Tambayan Philippines Collaboration #1 is ongoing

Hi! The voting for the article to be the first target of Tambayan Philippines Collaboration Department is ongoing. Please vote even if it is abstain. Thanks! --seav 14:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Filipino Wiktionary

What Tagalog (or non-Tagalog) words, understood and commonly used by Filipinos (of any ethnicity), can you contribute in Filipino Wiktionary test? --Filipinayzd (talk) 20:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Plus.gif listed for deletion

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Globe Telecom Logo.png

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:LINK.png

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Malay/Boracay/Caticlan

If we should state Boracay/Caticlan as Malay since they are not cities/municipalities, how shall we state Siargao since it's merely an island? -chris^_^ (talk) 13:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The conventions call for the city/municipality served. Sadly, we don't know the location of the Siargao airport. --Sky Harbor 11:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Tagalog Wikipedia

Hey Sky, I posted a message in Wikipedia:Kapihan, maybe you could take a look. P.S. the Tagalog Wikipedia really needs some serious cleanup.--Lenticel ^(talk) 01:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I read it earlier. It's about the categories made by Booster Gold, right? If there were a bot that can do all that (changing of categories)...--Sky Harbor 02:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

No, it's my categories that are in question. Felipe Aira already fixed it so I'm okay for now. But you are right, we really need to have bots to fix the categories. I'll try brute force for now. After I finish this Herculean task, I'll work on the infoboxes. P.S. can we recruit people from en. to tl.? --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Starlogo.png

I have tagged Image:Starlogo.png as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Some examples can be found at Wikipedia:Use rationale examples. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Non-free. Thank you. Rockfang (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Yellow Line extension colour

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:EON Visa Electron Card.png

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:EWB Logo.png)

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal nagacity.png

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Tagalog Wikipedia

Humihiling ako ng agarang paghaharang kay tl:User:Tukmol para sa tahasang bandalismong di-matapus-tapos, at pang-aatake sa ibang mga manggagamit. Silipin ang kanyang mga ambag at ang kasaysayan ng kanyang pahina at usapan. Inalis ko ang nilalaman niyon kasi naglalaman ng mga pang-aatake kay AnakngAraw. -- Felipe Aira 06:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

PS. The time I posted this is when it actually happened. This means this is a little bit of emergency. -- Felipe Aira 06:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Panay / Western Visayas

Isn't it redundant to say it's the first international airport in Panay and the first international airport in Western Visayas? I mean, if it's the first in the region, and all of the island is in that region, that it's a given that it's the first on the island. TheCoffee (talk) 13:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

What about Negros Occidental? Isn't that in Western Visayas? --Sky Harbor 13:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Tagalog Wikipedia

Just wondering where have the active adminstrators gone? Haven't heard from them for a while? There are some items that needs attention. Overwhelmed? Thanks. - DaughterofSun (talk) 20:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I presume you're AnakngAraw (obvious sa username kasi eh...lol). Nawawala ako sa listahan ng mga pinag-uusapan. Saan ba yung problema? --Sky Harbor 00:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Routine stuff, anything that goes on at the café, deletion requests, etc. But the strange thing is I really don't see any activity right now from two usually active admins. So unlike before, when they would at least pay a visit, even if so briefly. I have requests on their talk pages too. There are also "bot" requests I believe. - DaughterofSun (talk) 02:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I am not a bureaucrat, so don't expect me to handle bot requests (ask Bluemask). Maybe I can handle deletion requests. --Sky Harbor 02:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I know that we are all just volunteering our time here and there. So pardon me if I'm just not that familiar with the technicalities between bureaucrats and admins, or who to ask about something more related to technicalities (well, not yet). Thanks for informing me about this difference. But, probably it'll be best for me to just wait a bit more before asking Bluemask. Maybe he's just busy in real life right now. That, I believe, everybody will and should understand (that includes me, of course). Thanks, again. - DaughterofSun (talk) 04:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I have also noticed that. It's already more than a week. By the way, there's a proposal to change the tl:Unang Pahina into tl:Unang Pahina/Temp. I was hoping that you join the discussion, and also run a sitenotice in order to get more attention. Since it is pretty much obvious that there are only 2 - 3 people discussing at tl.wiki. It will be really helpful to run a site notice. Please. Thanks. Down there's the code. -- Felipe Aira 04:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

<small><center>Mayroon ngayon mungkahi upang palitan ang [[Unang Pahina]] batay sa mga nakalagay sa [[Unang Pahina/Temp]]. Lubhang makakatulong ang mga komento.<br>Kung ikaw ay interesadong makalahok sa pagpapabuti ng Wikipedia, malaya kang makakasali sa usapan sa [[WP:KAPE]].</center></small>

Code-placing is done. --Sky Harbor 22:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:Multibanco.png

Image Copyright problem

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Fair use rationale for Image:Multibanco.png

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Unang Pahina

Can you please see WP:KAPE at Tagalog Wikipedia? We believe it's time to replace the Unang Pahina with Unang Pahina/Temp. It's been their for quite a while with three in support none with opposition. I believe that's consensus already due to the fact that we only have a very small editing community, espescially now that all our administrators are gone for I think 3^rd or 4^th. I beg, again, of you Tagalog admins to participate in community discussions. -- Felipe Aira 09:34, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

There are many many images moved to Commons that have redundant copies at tl.wikipedia, and they need speedy deletion. You'll find them here at tl:Category:Mga malalayang larawang may kopya sa Commons. All of those images have been moved to Commons. Thank you. -- Felipe Aira 10:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

And also please follow this tl:MediaWiki_talk:Uploadwizard-url. That makes the magkarga ng talaksan point to Wikipedia:Pagkarga, as here in English. -- Felipe Aira 12:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoa there, speedy! (lol) There is no policy that explicitly bans free content from being uploaded to the Tagalog Wikipedia instead of Commons (which is what WP:Pagkarga is implying). If it were more like WP:Upload here, then I will consider it. We shouldn't inconvenience users by forcing them to register at Commons to upload free content; they should have the convenience to upload it at tl.wp. Once that is fixed, I will fix the MediaWiki page to link to WP:Pagkarga. --Sky Harbor 14:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe that there has been a previous consensus at WP:KAPE. -- Felipe Aira 02:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The Tagalog Wikipedia needs you

There are a lot of things to do in the Tagalog Wikipedia. They are set in order of priority.

1. There are MediaWiki and template code errors that needs to be fixed. (tl:Wikipedia:Kapihan#Problema_sa_Suleras_ng_Link_FA)
2. tl:MediaWiki:Uploadwizard-url needs to be created with the content:

   Wikipedia:Pagkarga

   . This basically points the Magkarga ng Talaksan (file) to tl:Wikipedia:Pagkarga, which is an upload wizard just like here in en. This effectively bypasses the default link Special:Upload.
3. Every image here at tl:Category:Mga_malalayang_larawang_may_kopya_sa_Commons needs to be deleted. Those are images already move to Commons.

Thank you. -- Felipe Aira 01:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The wizard needs to be fixed before I will update the MediaWiki link. Seriously, it reads like it wants people to upload to Commons instead (which should not be the case). I have also deleted some pictures moved to Commons and will continue tomorrow EDT (time here in the US). --Sky Harbor 02:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I changed the wording so that it will not sound very imperative. Please read the first section at WP:KAPE. -- Felipe Aira 09:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you please do #1, it's quite urgent. -- Felipe Aira 11:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Intercontinental Pacific Airways

Hey sky, you might be interested in this afd since you're the only Pinoy wikipedian that I know that have an interest in aviation.--Lenticel ^(talk) 07:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Templates

We need this (Wikify) and these for Bikol Wikipedia. Teach us how to make Article message boxes. Thanks! --Filipinayzd (talk) 12:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Your ambox template does not display correctly because the proper code is not in your Commons.css file in the Bikol Wikipedia. There's pages here on how to do that. --Sky Harbor 13:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

What is the link? -Filipinayzd (talk) 03:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Try the English Wikipedia Commons.css file (sadly it does not exist). I suggest you head to the village pump for technical issues. --Sky Harbor 15:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Weee! hehe --Filipinayzd (talk) 07:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Then congratulations! BTW, I hope you can translate the WMPH documents into Bikol :D. --Sky Harbor 16:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Please participate on Wikimedia Philippines discussions

Call for participation to Wikimedia Philippines

As one of the participants of Wikipedia Philippines, we are inviting you to participate in the discussion about the revised Articles of Incorporation. Feel free to comment and scrutinize the document. Some of the topics to be resolve include:

a) start-up capital;

b) bank account of choice;

c) and nomination of a treasurer.

For your information, last May 5, 2008, Mr. Vincent Isles reserved the company name “WIKIMEDIA PHILIPPINES, INC.” from the Securities and Exchange Commission. The reservation will expire on August 3, 2008. The next steps will be the approval of the Articles of Incorporation and By-Laws. We are fast-tracking the process that is why your inputs are vital and very much appreciated.

Please visit the following links for your reference:

1. The revised Articles of Incorporation: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Philippines/Articles_of_Incorporation
2. Discussion page for the revised Articles of Incorporation: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Philippines/Articles_of_Incorporation
3. Mr. Isles’ email regarding the company name reservation: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/philwiki/message/156
4. Josh Lim’s (Sky Harbor) pseudo-manifesto: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/philwiki/message/168

--Jojit (talk) 04:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for Image:Bank bcb.gif

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Russian text on a memorial monument

Thanks, Sky Harbor, for answering my Language Ref Desk query today. It was indeed helpful, and I admire your approach and clarity of expression. Also, you have a wonderfully engaging User page :-) Keep up the good work! (BTW, In recent years I've neglected my Galileah LJ but you're welcome to read it...!) -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 10:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

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Major Airports of the Philippines

Shouldn't we change Template:Major airports in the Philippines to a template that has all airports with commercial service? pikdig (talk) 10:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Not all airports have articles, unless we want a template awash with red links. Maybe we can finish the airports first before changing the template. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 10:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice Edit :) Kjbaldio (talk) 14:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Just letting you know...

http://tl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Nominasyon_para_sa_Tagapangasiwa_ng_Wikipedia_Tagalog&diff=258793&oldid=256328

http://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Felipe_Aira See the last two sections.

http://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Delfindakila last section

-- Felipe Aira 13:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Philippine Airlines Website renewal

Hi Sky Harbour, the Official Philippine Airlines Website has gone under a total revamp! ALL the links have been changed around due to this. Its a great new website, but for this wikipedia article to remain sourced we have to update nearly all sources. Sadly this will take some time and work, but if we all work together it shouldnt be hard. Its very rare for them to change the website for a very long time after this though. Its also an advantage that we will have very updated links, so we can submit this article for a review in the future. So i hope. Please do your part if you can, we should all contribute for a better Philippine Airlines article. Lovebus 14:16, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that the website went through a facelift...the SkyscraperCity community seems ecstatic, but for the purposes of Wikipedia, it is quite a hassle. Of course, I can try my best to help. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 14:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 17 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Manila Grand Opera House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Woohoo! Thanks! --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 13:16, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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BCD and ILO Airports

I am inviting you to participate on a current discussion started by User:Ariel c nunag. The discussion is about the naming of BCD and ILO as international airports. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Philippine Airports. Thank you. pikdig (talk) 03:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

PR seat map

When you added the seat map of PR for the Boeing 777-300ER, you stated in your edit summary, per info on PEx. What exactly is PEx? What is the website of PEx? Just curios. pikdig (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

PEx is PinoyExchange, one of the biggest message boards in the Philippines. Alongside SkyscraperCity, PEx has one of the most vibrant aviation-related communities. Information about a lot of things come out there well before they are announced, like the Boeing 777 seat plan, for instance, and even pictures of the new PR cabin. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 13:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

zest airways

Historical data should be balanced, neutral and encyclopedic, containing comprehensive notable, verifiable knowledge. It should not be a collection of extra information as to constitute advertising, or a proposal to present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" WP:SPECULATION marked as inappropriate. Other individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place WP:FUTURE. Likewise, it is not appropriate for editors to insert their own opinions or analysis. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Even if its true, or verifiable, it does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Information must and should not be based on Tabloid journalism but on simple facts as much as possibleWP:IINFO. Unless you change how it is written I will edit it again and again. Ariel c nunag (talk) 14:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

How is it tabloid journalism when it is information that is fully supported by citations and is an irrefutable part of the history of the company? You present no proof as to how that version of the history is considered as an indiscriminate collection of information yet you assert it as such. You think board and CAB approval for the name change is trivial when in reality it is not? The version that you present is likewise incomplete. What about the plan by Alfredo M. Yao to acquire SEAIR and merge it with Asian Spirit? Isn't that important also? --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 04:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

As explained in the Wikipedia policy, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia WP:IINFO. A comprehensive fact is never detailed but contains all the essential information.

Expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place WP:FUTURE. For Example, 2010 Philippine Presidential Elections or the 2012 London Olympics. If preparation for the event is not already in progress, speculation about it must be well documented WP:SPECULATION.

Intention to buy and own SEAIR is pure speculation as it is not certain to happen. The anticipated event cannot be verified with certainty WP:CBALL. It simply meant you are not 100% sure that the owners of Seair will agree on Mr. Yao's proposal of sale. Zest-O is not also an essential element of the article as it was not the juice drink that bought the airline but AMY Holdings which owns both product.

Tabloid journalism means that the article is written to focus on local interest stories as against worldwide readers WP:NPOV, with emphasis on inconsequential trivia. Airlines in the Philippines require a franchise to operate. The franchise granted by the government belongs to Asian Spirit. In the eyes of aviation regulators, local or foreign, the airline does not exist unless it was officially changed by the company. In the corporate world, only the Board of Directors can do that.

Also, without notice to the government, the corporations decision to change its name cannot be made effective. That is why the decision to change the airlines identity as well as government approval is notable event of the company WP:NOTABILITY. Without those things it simply cannot fly. Ariel c nunag (talk) 22:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

It is not pure speculation. Apparently, you did not read the citation. Alfredo M. Yao did announce his intention to purchase SEAIR, but was unable to do so as apparently SEAIR management was uninterested. His original plan was to merge SEAIR into Asian Spirit, not just buy Asian Spirit outright and then proceed with what he did. Before you judge what the content is, at least take the time to read the citation first.

All the information you want retained is retained in my version of the history. In fact, I wrote it specifically to incorporate both the original version of the history (prior to the renaming) and including the additions you added. So before you begin preaching to me about Wikipedia policy (something which I am fully aware of given that I have been a part of this community since 2005) and how you purport that I violated them through my edits, be more cognizant of the information I added. The fact that both the attempted acquisition of SEAIR and the renaming are supported by independent sources through valid citations to those sources (per WP:V) proves that it does merit a place in the history of Zest. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 08:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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Sky Harbor, thank you very much for participating in my Rfa, which was successful with 80 Support, 5 Oppose, 6 Neutral. The comments were overwhelming, and hopefully I can live up to the expectation of the community. I would also like to thank my nominator Realist2 and my co-nom Orane (talk), and special mention to Acalamari and Lenticel (talk) for the kindness from the start. Regards, Efe

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New SEAIR logo

I recently noticed that on the [www.flyseair.com SEAIR website] that they changed their logo, however I am unable to find one to replace the current logo in its article. Can you please find one? Thanks! pikdig (talk) 03:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

If you want, Chris, I can Photoshop the new logo so I can upload it. I did it with the new Zest Airways logo. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 09:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that sounds good. pikdig (talk) 13:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

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gift

May gift ako para sa'yo dito. Meri Krismas! --Bluemask (talk) 07:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Lolengs naman...haha. Thanks! You could use my tl.wiki page, you know. ;). --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 07:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

It is written that there is a reason for everything. In my blocked talk page, I was invited to share wisdom in Wikinews, and I turned it down. I never appreciated this project. Having learned PC and Word typing just in May 2006, when I was Googled, I came to Wikipedia without any IT learning. But like other Filipinos I learned by copy catting. I had been warned by my adopter Ian to retire lest I be banned. I told him let's not discuss this, I am more concerned about your studies in Laguna. I cannot explain to you, why in all my life, those who are around me or my neighbors perish. In Tagalog it is "salot." Most of my neighbors die painfully. IanLopez was expelled and is suffering now. It will take a year for him to recover amid settled court case. On December 3, I tried Wikinews painfully, since I know I am faced with Class a journalists called accredited reporters. My first article was marked "failed." Now, Wikinews is 50% mine or 70% in some days. It is terribly hard to create a news article. Why? You must get a notable breaking news fast. It takes 5 full hours to finish one. I love images and I rarely created without one. A SECRET. In Wikinews, there is no chance to be blocked, and editing can only be approved by review, it is called draft page. Today, my works are approved right away even if there are clerical errors, they don't bother to check my works, since most of them landed in the very front page top of. In Wikipedia English, most of my edits are not reverted except by the duo. But I ignore all these, since our relationship is personal enmity, nothing about Wiki. Do not believe others, that my enemies are skeptics. They use the best psychics and trace me. It is very deep.

I was offered by email by a very respected Wikipedian to edit my own articles, but I never responded, since I believe in integrity. Florentino Floro is made based on journalists' and our courts' lies, we can't blame them. As they say, Yes Virginia there is Santa Claus.[1] Even if I am unblocked, I will not anymore contribute in W English, since I get the front page daily in Wikinews. It is tremendous worldwide exposure. A final word. You will not believe, that, the Wikipedia editor who had faith in me is an agnostic and a very wealthy man. He says that he only believes what he sees. I told him before that in 2007 I debunked the lower paranormal phenomena even if I claimed to be the No. 1 Psychic who can move by annihilation. I rose to the level of the lights of St. Paul, the gifts of healing and prophecy. I only believe what I see. I wanna leave an unsolicited advise to you: throw and IGNORE all negatives. Do not have anger in your heart. Just pick up all the POSITIVES. The disadvantage is, if you ignore the tons of detractors, the more they will stalk you. See the Tambayan posts. Just some of my lines, and all the rats are interested in bullying. The agnostic editor said - it is a sick world. Cheers.--124.106.80.18 (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[2]--124.106.80.18 (talk) 12:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

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6K ad

If you don't mind, can you please give me a link to the 6K ad you are referring to? pikdig (talk) 15:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

That was speedy. I saw it on the Inquirer (print version). Try booking flights to those areas on those dates on Zest's website and you'll see they're available for booking (I tried it with the MNL-ILO morning flight, and it's 500 each way.) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 15:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! However other flights like CGY for example is unbookable as of now. pikdig (talk) 15:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:UE and article naming

Following on your reversion here of a recent article move I had made, I've asked for some guidance about that and similar situations at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#Articles_with_foreign-language_names. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 03:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know, everyone calls it the Libingan ng nga Bayani, even in English. There are cases where the media translates the name (an example would be "Libingan ng mga Bayani (Heroes' Cemetery)" in an article I saw in the Philippine Daily Inquirer), although this is inconsistent. Wikipedia seeks to use official translations (or, in the lack thereof, widely-used or widely-respected translations), and not translations made by Wikipedians, although there are cases where the translations made by Wikipedians have for the most part been legitimized by government sources (an example here would be on the State of the Nation Address, where the Tagalog translation that I entered on Wikipedia a couple of years ago was used by the PIA). --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 03:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

My guess would be that the many non-speakers of Tagalog don't call it the Libingan ng nga Bayani. I don't speak tagalog and did not provide the translation myself. I don't recall offhand where I got the translation—possibly here, or here, or here, or here, or possibly elsewhere. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 08:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

At the same time, most Filipino speakers of English use the Tagalog name. There's this, this, this and this. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo herself called it the Libingan ng mga Bayani and a Senate resolution also called it the Libingan ng mga Bayani. At the same time, translations are also inconsistent. If there's "Cemetery of the Heroes", there's also "Heroes' Cemetery" and "Cemetery of Heroes". The problem here is the audience: Filipinos, the supposed target audience of the article, prefer the Filipino name, while foreigners prefer the English name. It's an issue of which has more authority. If any consensus is reached recommending the use of the English over the Filipino, so be it. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 08:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but this is the English Wikipedia, not the English Wikipedia for Tagalog speakers. My guess is that by far the majority of English Wikipedia users are not Tagalog speakers. Refer to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) (an official English Wikipedia policy) which says, "Use the most commonly used English version of the name of the subject as the title of the article, as you would find it in verifiable reliable sources (for example other encyclopedias and reference works)."—which is what I did and what you reverted, and I don't believe that "readers" there is meant to be taken as "readers whose native tongue matches the foreign language at issue". Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Use English words (in another official English Wikipedia policy) says, "Convention: Name your pages in English and place the native transliteration on the first line of the article, unless the native form is more commonly recognized by readers than the English form (again, I don't believe that "readers" there is meant to be taken as "readers whose native tongue matches the foreign language at issue"). Do you and I have a dispute here which needs escalating? I have already turned to others for help; if no help is forthcoming there in a few days, the next step would appear to be WP:RFC.-- Boracay Bill (talk) 11:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Elevating disputes is never my forte, and I hate it when I fight with fellow Wikipedians. However, while this may be the English Wikipedia, it is not the English Wikipedia solely for those whose native language is English. I specifically said that if consensus shows that the English name should be used, then so be it, and I will gladly support. It just so happens that English speakers resident in the Philippines, as evident in the sources I provided, prefer the Filipino name over the English name. The goal here is not to propagate a systemic bias: an English name Filipinos are not necessarily familiar with may project a US/UK/CA/AU/NZ-centric bias, while a Filipino name foreigners are not familiar with may appear to propagate a PH-centric bias. I still wish for an amicable solution to this situation, and as I said earlier, in any final consensus, I will gladly support. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 14:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

My position is (A) that the Wikipedia policies I've mentioned above appear to clearly indicate that the most commonly used English version of the name of the subject should be used as the title of the article, (B) compliance with policy is the expected norm on Wikipedia, and (C) action contrary to policy {i.e., invoking WP:IAR) requires consensus support. Since I am not an admin, I would be unable to rename the article (actually articles -plural-, but we'll start with this latest one: Libingan ng mga Bayani) back to the English name over the now-existing redirect. That being the case, I'll request that the article be renamed back to the English name via WP:RM—in effect treating this as a potentially controversial move. I'll designate Talk:Libingan_ng_mga_Bayani#Rename as the discussion location, will summarize discussion to date there, and will link from there to the discussion fragments here and at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English)#Articles with foreign-language names. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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Cebu meetup

Hi Sky, I'm willing to meet you up in Cebu City. I'll also contact Bentong for the arrangements. Hope you will come :=) Jordz (talk) 07:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I will need to find a way to get P3,000 first. SuperFerry is about P100 less than the plane at current prices. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 07:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Good Day

Hi Sky, sorry for me being harsh with some Wikipedians, like Gerard. It is never my intention to deprive them of their liberty here in Wikiworld. I agree that using the block hammer should not be the last resort. Sometimes I act in a reflex mode that I do things swiftly without really making a good decision.

Because one’s comeback could be “a starting anew” of oneself. Their return may give promising contributions here in Wiki. They could be totally new and better Wikipedians this time.

And it is okay with me. Sorry that my way out through is always kinda absolutism. Good day! axrealmdotcom (talk) 08:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

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Station names

Being the author of most railway station articles, please do your input regarding the concerns of Dhakki18 with PNR station article naming consistency. -- mithrilcloud@wikipedia 13:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Done, though I fail to see the need to do so, when you yourself are aware that railway station articles are almost always called "xxxx railway station". If memory serves me right, you were here before I was! --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 13:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I knew you could give a better explanation. ;) --mithrilcloud@wikipedia 16:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Uh huh... --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 17:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Adminship

Would you like to become an administrator? I could nominate you at WP:RFA, I think you would be a good candidate. TheCoffee (talk) 08:37, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Do you really think I'm up to it? Adminship on the English Wikipedia is far more strenuous (and the workload more demanding) than that of the Tagalog projects. But if you think I am up to it, then I see no reason to oppose. Just another challenge, I guess. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 13:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

No need to think of it as added workload or responsibility... but it'll give you the tools to be more flexible with the things you usually do. Like making uncontroversial page moves, reverting vandals with one button, protecting troublesome pages, etc. Should be no big deal. I'll prepare a nomination... TheCoffee (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to take your time and read any related policy pages before filling out the nomination and answering the questions. See the other nominations at WP:RFA for some guidance on how to do it right... Good luck! :) TheCoffee (talk) 15:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm fairly versed in the policy. I also took the time to read the other nominations. Hopefully all turns well. Wish me luck! --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 15:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Question 3

I notice you provided a link to a talkpage discussion about the use of "Filipino" vs "Tagalog" on Question 3, but the link doesn't seem to include the discussion. Could you double check that please? -- Soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 16:27, 20 August 2009 (UTC) By the way, if you're wondering how I found you so quickly, note that there is a page on my watchlist which lists new RfA's, even if they havent been transcluded yet.) Soap ^Talk/_{Contributions}

I linked the wrong archive there. Changed it to Archive 14. Thanks for pointing it out! :D --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 16:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

You have to transclude the RfA, by the way, before people can see and vote in it. I'm not sure if you know this and are just waiting for now to think some more or if you thought you were done; I'm just making sure. -- Soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 22:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and transcluded the nomination on the RFA page. The nomination procedure is kind of weird like that, leaving that part to either the nominator or nominee... Anyway, good luck! TheCoffee (talk) 04:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I wanted to leave it to Coffee, since me doing it would make it appear as if I had a personal hand in the nomination, which I don't. Anyway, I just hope for the best, whether I earn adminship or not. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 07:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment about Flagged revisions re your comment about vandalism

In your RfA, you mentioned that IP vandals are a particular problem on Philippine-language projects. I had been working on a proposal related to IP vandals, but I see that the concepts I would like to implement (delayed revisions) is part of Flagged Revisions. (I'd do it slightly differently, but the main concepts are there.). I understand that the implementation is not yet available in the English Wikipedia due to a bug, but it has been implemented in other places, such as the German version. I left a question at the Village Pump asking about the timing of this for English, and whether there were any reasons this couldn't be implemented in Tagalog - so far no answer, but if you aren't aware of this possibility, you might wish to look into it. Good Luck with your RfA, I supported you.--SPhilbrickT 13:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Before I begin, I would like to say that yes, I was not aware of deferred revisions, and thank you for supporting my RfA.

I'm left to wonder why you chose the Tagalog Wikipedia as your target, and I am also not sure why it can't be implemented there. If it is a technical thing, I wouldn't know, but if it's a social/hesitancy thing, then I highly suggest informing the other admins about it as well, since I would bet they are as clueless as I am on it. It may help reduce our vandal-fighting load a bit, and I really hope it does. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 16:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Nothing mysterious - I picked Tagalog, because I saw your comments about vandalism there. I knew that the FR version was implemented some places, but not others - I posted a question at the VP, hoping to get an answer which I would then pass it along to you, but I'm no longer optimistic about getting a prompt answer. I feel confident the reasons for not implementing are technical rather than social. If I were implementing it, I would set it up so people not on a whitelist have their edits deferred until 15 minutes after editing. Getting on a whitelist could be easy - ten edits without any vandalism reversions, so almost everyone would be on the whitelist. (And means we don't have to differentiate between IP and registered users.) Then vandal fighters could monitor the delayed edits, and not feel like they have to catch them in seconds, they just have to catch them within 15 minutes. People would quickly find that they don't have the shock value of showing a vandalized page to their friends, and I think vandalism would drop materially.

Good luck with your RfA, it seems to be going quite well. I hope after the excitement dies down, you will look into whether the implementation of flagged or deferred revisions would help the Tagalog Wikipedia—I'm looking forward to seeing the bug fixed so it can be tried on the English version.--SPhilbrickT 18:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I highly recommend this be marketed to the other administrators of the Tagalog Wikipedia. I'll see what I can do. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 02:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

You are now an admin

I'm pleased to inform you that I have closed your RFA as successful, and that you are now an admin! The trust that has been placed on you has not been placed lightly, and we hope that you will continue to serve Wikipedia well with your newly earned tools. You can test them out at New Admin School. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask me or any of our fellow admins. Cheers, bibliomaniac15 02:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Congrats. I either had the closing time wrong or it closed a tad early on me... Without my error, you would have been 1 additional support vote. Good luck with your new tools. --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:22, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Oddly, the RfA closed two hours early. Regardless, thanks to everyone for all the support. It's been a pleasure serving the Tagalog Wikipedia, and it prides me that I can bring my expertise there here to the English Wikipedia. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 02:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! It was long overdue, IMO, and you really deserved it. Hope to see you in Manila 5 :) --- Tito Pao (talk) 02:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

\o/ Awesome! :) JamieS93 02:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! ax (talk) 04:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 18:39, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

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Remember you will always protect the wrong version. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua?!?

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Carlo J. Caparas

I need your help in taking care of this though. Vandals have started coming in ever since the semi-protection lock has been lifted on his article. Blake Gripling (talk) 03:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I placed the article on my watchlist. No new activity so far. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 03:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, although I've witnessed sporadic vandal activity here. I also added you on my YM buddy list too. Look for something that begins with a peanut... God Bless and congrats on being an admin! Blake Gripling (talk) 03:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

About the Tagalog (de facto Filipino) Wikipedia

How come only the Latin script is used there. I find it quite contradictory that that Wikipedia is titled as "Tagalog" yet only one version of it Filipino. You say there is no official variant as of yet, yet there seem to be a de facto one used there. If only the Filipino language is usable there then why ain't it titled as the "Filipino Wikipedia". I find it really sad that one of our cultural heritage seems to be marginalized in a place like Wikipedia.--23prootie (talk) 04:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you honestly think that today any Filipino uses Baybayin? Most computers can't even read the script! Inasmuch as I respect the fact that Baybayin is part of our cultural heritage and deserves the utmost respect and preservation, let's be reasonable here: almost all extant Tagalog/Filipino literature is written using the Latin script, with Baybayin being relegated to a field of study by enthusiasts and specialists. Unless there is full text support for the language (entry and display) and people actually use the script in their daily lives (which will probably not happen in either of our lifetimes given current government policies), I don't see the point in using Baybayin in a primarily Latinate Wikipedia. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 04:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Third Opinion

If you don't mind, can I please get a third opinion regarding the following discussion on the Filipino American talk page. Thank you in advance. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 11:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Zapote LRT Station

The article Zapote LRT Station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:CRYSTAL and a search for references on this proposal found nothing at lrta.gov.ph which would be the governing body. As the LTR site does not mention the proposed station, and the only references found are mirrors, this fails WP:V and WP:N as well.

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anon ranting

AdjustShift already pointed it out to him the validity of my argument in the talk page. That's why the anon erased the blockings here before Pao put in the IP header tag. Apparently that guy has refused to see the writing on the wall and he's covering up what he has done. He's the one who is not civil at nagpapairal ng kayabangan niya. (and upholds his braggadocio) --Eaglestorm (talk) 08:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Just to clarify: Apparently, another user talk header was on the page, but the last editor before me blanked it; I only found out through the history page belatedly, after I had initially added a different header. Since it's useless to reinvent the wheel, I just restored the pre-blanking version of the page. Thanks. --- Tito Pao (talk) 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Baybayin again

Could you add tabs for Baybayin in the Tagalog Wikipedia just like the ones in the Kazakh Wikipedia .--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)^Baybayin 12:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Baybayin is not Cyrillic, which is a living script with actual widespread font support. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 13:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Technically speaking, Alibata is included in ISO 15924 so it may be considered as a "living script" (if such a case is even possible). Atsaka hindi naman siguro ma-hi-hinder nang paggamit sa iskripturang ito ang kalalabasan at epektibidad ng Wikiediang Tagalog.There is a software out there that can be used for the script. Unfortunately, it is currently in limited use.--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)^Baybayin 06:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The problem there is that no one uses Baybayin in modern times. Who on Earth would contribute to the Tagalog Wikipedia primarily using Baybayin? You? Wikipedia is supposed to cater to the greater good of the community: changes are not meant to be if only a few will benefit with negligible effect on everyone else. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 10:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I do believe there is a community out there interested in reviving the script (mainly after visiting some sites and forums) and I do believe it may be beneficial for every Filipino in the long run. Then again, it may be premature for me to discuss this because without institutional support (the government) any initiation by anyone to use the script may be worthless.--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ (ᜂᜐᜉ)^Baybayin 14:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Not meaning to play devil's advocate here, but unlike Kazakh, where not everyone who writes the language does so in Cyrillic (Arabic Kazakh is found among Kazakhs in China, while Latin Kazakh is found among Kazakhs throughout the Middle East), almost all Filipinos write Tagalog using the Latin script. Unless there is some significant Tagalog-speaking community somewhere in the world which primarily writes in Baybayin (excluding revivalist groups like the communities you told me earlier), I still do not see the point in adding Baybayin text support. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 14:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed rename of article McGuire Field

The above was renamed by you in the past. A second rename has been proposed. Could you contribute your opinion on the talk page? Thanks. Jubilee♫clipman 16:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Lambanog

Check out the 3RR report I filed. We took the bait, he sez. WTF? IF he didn't even become such a hard-ass by working on the talk page comments in the first place, none of this would have happened! If push comes to shove, I will revert it back to before his edits began and archive everything. He's pissed us off too much with his abrasiveness. I didn't even read further into his LONG statement. I feel the urge to maul his ass offwiki if I ever knew what he looked like. --Eaglestorm (talk) 05:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Let me clarify: you, Lemar, Howard and GraYoshi2x took the bait, not me (if there is bait). I am not convinced that Lambanog's behavior is abrasive, although his perceived abrasiveness is perhaps a product of what he believes is heavy-handedness on your (referring to the three of you) part. However, thank you for reporting this to AN, and I hope this gets resolved quickly. This is getting out of hand as it is, and if I can't solve it, maybe the other admins can. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 10:28, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

FAR listing

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Manila MRT/LRT map

You're more of an expert on this subject than I am... What article can this map go on, and how can it be improved? Also, what should I do to update the PNR map? :) I never used the PNR and don't know what needs changing, if anything. TheCoffee (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

For one, there's only one North Avenue station (the LRT and MRT are now directly connected), while the proposed Grand Central Terminal (not sure if this will be the final name) will be built in front of SM City North EDSA. Santolan station (MRT-2) should be located on the border between Marikina and Pasig, since that is how it is normally shown on Metro Manila maps. MRT-7 can also be put there, and an SRTS map (which includes the PNR from Caloocan until Alabang) would be good as well. Other than that, that should be okay (this is where having a Metro Manila map comes in handy). I really wish though we can have a modern map that does not need to constrain itself to the geographic representation of SRTS lines.

As for the PNR map: Malolos, San Fernando, Angeles, Lucena and Santa Cruz, Laguna are also terminal stations which are missing from the map. The Balagtas-Cabanatuan branch line is also missing. A national map (or even a map of Luzon) should help.

Other than those, the maps should be okay. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 14:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

What is your opinion? Share with us!

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Manila LRT

So, um, what are your plans regarding the article? Lambanog (talk) 11:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I've been busy with finishing up plans for Wikimedia Philippines (WMPH), so I do apologize for not working on the article in the last few days. There are two major parts which need to be done:

• Trimming the incidents section and spinning everything off into a new article
• Expansion of the future expansion section

I'm also thinking of putting the LRV pictures into a separate gallery within the article so that it does not take up too much space. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 10:31, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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Manila Light Rail Transit System Review

I want to check in and see if you've been following the FAR process and the criticisms being raised there and get your reaction. I've been removing and changing things in response to them and I want to avoid misunderstandings. The alert chart was in the opinion of one reviewer a bit excessive and I cannot find a source describing the current scheme in writing. I know it is valid but through means that might be interpreted as original research. Do you wish to ignore the reviewer's criticisms? Lambanog (talk) 03:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I have been following the FAR, actually. The table is valid because while the LRTA does not update their website (it still uses the old Code Yellow 1/2 scheme which has since been deprecated in favor of the current scheme), the scheme is plastered all over the LRT, in passenger assistance offices and the like. I am not inclined on calling it OR because the sources are there (they're just not online), but if you feel the table does not fit the current scheme of things, feel free to remove it. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 08:06, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion nomination of List of ZIP codes in the Philippines

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User:Cybervision on Tagalog Wikipedia

This guy attacked me personally twice in tl.wiki, the last one, posted on my talkpage, after giving him warnings regarding his unsourced articles. He also admitted that the is an employee of the company that produced tl:All About ADAM, an article he created. I would like to request if this user can be blocked indefinitely for the grounds of WP:CIVIL and WP:COI. Hoping for your swift action. Thanks. -WayKurat (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

BLP - - Filipino Living Person

Hi! I am inviting you to join the discussions here. Here is the link. I am trying to prove to the #1 critic-editor of the subject that the lead section of the Eli Soriano article is POV (not to mention poorly-sourced) and more importantly, libelous. Trust me, it's notable (talk) 08:01, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Meetup

Hi, I will be in Philippines from start of next month so would like to meet with fellow Filipino WPs. Because I will stay in Davao during my visit, I was thinking of planning a meetup in Davao city but I do not see any potential. Thank you! --Saki ^talk 15:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

To be fair, the vast majority of Wikipedians are based in Manila, with smaller communities interspersed throughout the Philippines. I'm sure it won't hurt asking around. Or, if you're ever in Manila, come organize a meetup here. :D --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 16:40, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

How about planning a meetup in Manila on 3rd or 4th of July? ;) --Saki ^talk 16:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

It's a bit soon, but I don't see the harm of suggesting it on the Tambayan. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 17:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead. I'll surely attend. --Saki ^talk 19:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Sky Harbor/Musical controversies

User:Sky Harbor/Musical controversies, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Sky Harbor/Musical controversies and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Sky Harbor/Musical controversies during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 02:19, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow. The last time I touched the page was in 2006. I was thinking of deleting it, but I was perhaps too lazy to do so. At any rate, feel free to delete it as needed. :) --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 04:13, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I tagged it for speedy deletion since you expressed a wish to delete it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 05:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Manila hostage crisis

There are concerns that the Manila hostage crisis article, as it currently stands, may be biased towards the Hong Kong perspective. As an experienced editor from Manila, would you please help improve the article, especially in places where the views of Manila media deserve more mention? Thanks! --Deryck C. 15:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Tagalog question

Hi Josh! I saw you're the ambassador for the Tagalog language Wiki. I wanted to ask for help in starting an article on the Tagalog Wikipedia about Ram Narayan. Can you please help and translate the introduction? Thank you very much! Regards Hekerui (talk) 16:32, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Cebu Taoist Temple, Uploaded.

I have uploaded the picture to Wikipedia. Not sure how to let someone see it from it's current location on Wikipedia. Adamdaley (talk) 00:20, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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Signpost

Hi, I have written a short note about the debut of Wikimedia Philippines for the upcoming issue of the Signpost, which you are welcome to review. If you find any inaccuracies or have suggestions on what to add, edits are still possible until publication time, which likely will be during Monday afternoon (UTC). It's a bit of a pity that none of these photos are available on Commons - or are they? -; one or two would have made a nice illustration to the story.

In general, the Signpost is always open to interesting news or reports from chapters, or Wikimedia projects other than the English Wikipedia. While local meetups or the like are normally not very newsworthy, our readers can assumed to be interested in unusual projects or collaborations (cf. a Dutch and a French example in this week's issue), or descriptions of an entire project, with its history and particularities, which we publish in our "Sister project reports" section.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Wow, we're on the Signpost! I'll be sure to review that bit on WMPH hopefully within today. :)

There are actually pictures of the event on Meta, but not on Commons. Feel free to transfer them to Commons for the Signpost's use. I stand corrected: there are pictures on Commons. You can see them at Category:Wikimedia Philippines at Y4IT. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 01:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Was talking with HaeB and saw this. You might be interested that there's a new facility for subscribing to the weekly Signpost, by adding one's name to this list. Thanks! Tony (talk) 16:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

SRTS update as of 2010

Dear Mr/Ms. Sky Harbor,

According to the extended SRTS system of the Government, PNR Northrail from malolos to Clark/Mabalacat and PNR Southrail from Muntinlupa to Binan are included for the Strong republic transit system".The "Strong Republic" programs of ex-PGMA like the Strong republic transit system and strong republic nautical highway is a nationwide project not a metro manila only project. Lastly even though PNR Southrail is also called "Filtrack", Filtrack is only the branding of the PNR for its former Commuter express which is only the metro manila segments. The rest is called as PNR-Southrail and Northrail is Still PNR Northrail for even though Northrail will be partially owned by NLRC it is still under PNR operations.

PS. For futher references pls visit these websites: [3] then find "stations" [4] then find "southrail project"

Hoping for your understanding and Cooperation, -JeromeSandilanico —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeromesandilanico (talk • contribs) 05:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the SRTS is a Metro/Mega Manila-only project, precisely because it calls for the integration of Metro Manila's three railway networks (LRT, MRT, PNR Commuter Express) into a single system. All SRTS maps, particularly those which advertise the SRTS on the LRT, only show Northrail Phase I (Caloocan-Malolos) and the North-South Linkage Project Phase I (Caloocan-Tutuban-Alabang) as part of the system. Additionally, Phase II of the North-South Linkage Project is not included in the SRTS because long-distance trains, not commuter trains, serve stations beyond Alabang, and Northrail Phase II is not included because the future of this project is very much still in limbo. However, there is the possibility that the former may be included in the future, but this I do not know since I cannot foretell the moves of this administration.

It appears that your basis for including Northrail Phase II and the North-South Linkage Project Phase II is based on your synthesis/interpretation of your research to come to this conclusion that the SRTS was "extended". Synthesis research is considered original research, and is not allowed per Wikipedia's editing policies. Now unless there is definitive proof of the SRTS being extended, like a map, I'm not sure if the information posted in the navbox can be considered valid. I will also be consulting with my colleague, Mithril Cloud, who also edits rail-related articles, on this matter, and I will likewise try to get his position on the matter.

Finally, may I suggest signing your username using four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 06:14, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

It's been a while since I used Wikipedia talk pages (lol) but anyway. As long as there isn't any official reference specifically pointing out updates to the SRTS (which I doubt, with SRTS being a GMA project), this template should be left alone. --mithrilcloud 15:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you suggesting then that all relevant edits be reverted? There's also the issue of those Northrail stations that were created. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 04:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

From what I've observed, those station articles seem to be made in speculation. -- mithrilcloud 04:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, most of those stations were former PNR stations, so perhaps they can be saved. The San Fernando City railway station article can be merged into San Fernando railway station (Pampanga) with a possible new name (like San Fernando (Pampanga) railway station as to distinguish from San Fernando (La Union) railway station) while the ones for Dau/Angeles and Clark/DMIA can be deleted for now. The two Caloocan station articles (Northrail and Southrail) should also be merged into Caloocan railway station.

There's also the issue of all those nav templates as well. --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 05:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps you can inform him about certain editing guidelines. --mithrilcloud 15:13, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

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