User talk:Scartol/Archives/2008/January

The Vagrant

Hmm... in addition to being the worst movie it appears to have one of the worst articles on all of Wikipedia to boot: The Vagrant (1992). Thanks very much for your kind words. I'm quite glad I said something useful at the right time; those four FAs are absolutely stellar. It's sad to me to think that a lot of people never meet the editors like User:Awadewit, User:Qp10qp, User:WillowW, User:DrKiernan and their ilk who make this place so worthwhile. Part of what got me started contributing was seeing how good the best Wikipedia content could be, and I'm sure your work will have that same effect on other people who are Wikipedia readers now but will someday become editors.

I'd definitely take you up on that offer of a free drink :) No secret that I'm in NYC and DC most of the year... if you're ever out this way, drop me a message. --JayHenry (talk) 07:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Jimmy McAleer

Scartol, Thanks for your detailed feedback! I moved on your recommendations, and they improved the article. So far, the piece has received one "support" and one "oppose." The opposing reviewer argued that it includes POV content--a surprising criticism given that the article is so well referenced. After reviewing the comments, however, I sensed that the reviewer's main concern was the article's "colorful" prose. This criticism dovetails with some of your comments. I've revised the article based on feedback I've received from you and others. If you have a chance to give it a second look, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, again! -- twelsht (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, and the heads-up! In line with two of your earlier recommendations, I untangled the passage on the 1912 World Series and added two images--a photograph of Ban Johnson and an old postcard image of Youngstown. I'll look forward to any additional comments when you're in a position to give the article a closer look. With much appreciation, -- twelsht (talk) 03:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Scartol, This message is just to let you know that three reviewers have supported the article's promotion. At this point, there is no evidence that the opposing reviewer has revisited the page. Nor did this reviewer respond to a message I left a couple days ago. Please know that I expanded the "Personal life" section with material drawn from the obituaries of McAleer's wives. Other sections of the article have also been upgraded. When you have a chance, your feedback on the latest version of the article would be much appreciated. Sincerely, -- twelsht (talk) 06:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

My gratitude

Thank you so much for your work and incredibly helpful suggestions regarding Emily Dickinson! I greatly appreciate the time you have taken to help me, a "nobody."

My gift to you for a happy, healthy and productive New Year:

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For your patience and outstanding precs preserverence perseverance in helping me through my first foray into the world of Wikipedia academia, I offer you this shiny Barnstar. As Emily said, "The Brain — is wider than the Sky". That goes for your kindness, as well. María (habla conmigo) 13:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! And, okay, not a "nobody" like miss Emily then. Maybe instead I'll be a "toad" like my next project:

"Think as I think," said a man,
"Or you are abominably wicked;
You are a toad."

And after I had thought of it,
I said, "I will, then, be a toad."

I agree, btw, about Harold Bloom; wretched, wretched, wretched. I'll endeavor to find additional critical reception from more palatable sources to even out the old bore. :) p.s. if you're bored one day, recite "Because I could not stop for Death" to the tune of "Gilligan's Island" - hours of entertainment! María (habla conmigo) 17:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Emma Goldman

Thank you for transforming Emma Goldman into a featured article. I'm glad I was able to help a little, but you did almost all the heavy lifting. Thanks! — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 04:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on another excellent featured article! How would you like to claim your reward money? Shall I donate it to the East Timor Action Network in your name? Kaldari (talk) 19:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Which important female historical figure is next on your list?! Your work is much needed. Congratulations and thanks. --Melty girl (talk) 20:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Never heard back from you about the FA Reward, so I went ahead and donated $30 to the East Timor Action Network on your behalf. Cheers! Kaldari (talk) 18:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

I look forward to seeing the wonderful articles that Wikipedia's rising star is going to produce in this new year! You have made such wonderful contributions in the past few months and I wanted to make sure that you know how much they are valued. Awadewit | talk 08:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

• BTW, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hamlet. It's semi-amusing. Awadewit | talk 10:39, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Ellery Queen

Hi there: I got your name from Wikipedia:One featured article per quarter. I've never brought an article to FA status but I think I'd like to try to improve Ellery Queen as much as possible, regardless of where it ends up. Could I prevail upon you to give me the benefit of your expertise and tell me what you think might need to happen to the article? I should note that a very small part of the article is currently the subject of a WP:Third opinion question and I will abide by the result of that, but it shouldn't affect the article in general. If this request is unwelcome or inappropriate, of course I withdraw it; any comments you make on my talk page would be welcome. Accounting4Taste:talk 04:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I certainly understand, and thanks for letting me know. Could you possibly recommend someone with expertise in assessing articles about fiction writers, or a page where I might appropriately post such a request for oversight? I do apologize for taking more of your time and if you just let this drop without response, that's fine too. Accounting4Taste:talk 16:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions, and I've approached User:JayHenry. Happy New Year!! Accounting4Taste:talk 21:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Never too late and thanks very much for taking the trouble. I noticed you were working away and thought I'd wait until you mentioned it; your emendations look great!! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. I'm having a terrifically busy week in real life so haven't had time to order that book yet, but it's on my list. Accounting4Taste:talk 17:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tables on Joseph Johnson (publisher)

Hi Scartol,

Just rechecked the article, and now the tables have been separated somewhat (they were dead next to each other when I commented) the offset isn't so noticeable, although it is still there. As I said in the FAC, you don't need to treat it as actionable as we can't be required to accommodate every browser/operating system/screen resolution.

That said, if you can fix it, that'd be great (apart from anything else, it'd give me an article to look at for solutions if I ever encounter the problem again ;) ). Browser is Firefox 2.0.0.11, running Windoze XP SP2, fully patched. Screen resolution is 1024x768. If it's of use, I can take a screenshot & upload it - let me know if that'd be helpful.

Cheers. Carre (talk) 12:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

BSG

Rupert Clayton and I have put an article on the Boydell Shakespeare Gallery up for peer review. We would appreciate your insights. :) Awadewit | talk 05:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• Watch an FAC go awry: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Analytical Review. :) Awadewit | talk 20:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• I think you should do a featured topic on all 100 volumes of La Comédie humaine. Think of the accolades. :) Awadewit | talk 06:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting Request

Hi. Meerkat Manor is currently a candidate for Featured Article. As part of the feedback, it was recommended that I ask someone who has experience as a copy editor go over the article to give it a prose check and iron out any writing issues. I found your name at WP:1FAPQ#Project resources and was wondering if you would have time to give the article a going over to help give it the final tweaks it needs to pass FA muster? Collectonian (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review - Person Centred Planning

Person Centred Planning is up for peer review. I suspect this subject will be something that you in particular will find intriguing enough to spend some time reviewing. I hope so! Max (talk) 17:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

copy editing

I noticed that the copy editor is in. I would like to make a request on behalf of an article. I just reviewed Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. While reviewing, I did some copy editing, but more is needed. I consider what I did a "first pass". The article needs a second pass and a bit of reorganization. If you are up for it, it is obviously a worthy topic. :) Awadewit | talk 07:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, um, that bibliography looks particularly unhelpful as its entries end in the 1920s. Note for the future: unless a bibliography calls itself an annotated bibliography, don't count on it having any extensive commentary. Awadewit | talk 22:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

re:Signpost tutorial

We have the schedule planned out till june so far and the issue planned for March 31 is planned to focus on templates. It is being written byUser:Phoenix-wiki, so feel free to give him a buzz. The Placebo Effect (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Tutorial on templates

Hello there. The Placebo Effect told me you were preparing the Signpost's tutorial on templates. I just wanted to let you know that I recently wrote up a tutorial on the subject; you're welcome to quote from, reprint (all or part), or link to this if you like.

Cheers. – Scartol • Tok 20:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was planning on linking to it anyway, so thanks :-)--Phoenix-wiki 20:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi and friendly favour

Animation of planetary motion; suggestions for improvement?

Hey, hey friend o' mine!

I'm sorry if my reply at the FAC for Joseph Johnson seemed unappreciative; I didn't mean it that way! I was really touched by your comment, although Awadewit deserves most of the credit. I was only trying to say that our articles should be judged like everyone else's; we make mistakes like everyone else, and we'd appreciate them being amended, like everyone else.

Now I have a favor to ask! I've been teaching myself Blender, which is an open-source program for making 3D animations, among other things. My first goal was to make an animation of planetary motion, which you see at the left, and which I'd like to add to some of those pages. How does it look to you? Is there anything "funny"? Can you think of some way it could be improved? I'd very much appreciate any help or insights you had. Muchas gracias, mi amigo, Willow (talk) 18:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey Eric — do you mind if I call you by your first name? It feels more personal, and you don't seem to be keeping it a secret. But I'll stick with Scartol, if you prefer.

On the advice of G-guy, I updated the Kepler animation to make it slower, and on my own whim, I made the central star larger and the elliptical track slimmer and more pink — everyone needs a signature. ;) How does it look to you now? Is there something I should fix — maybe the rotation of the central star is too distracting, for example? I want the planetary orbit to be the main focus, but I also want to explain that the planet's orbit doesn't depend on the rotation of the central star; anyway, stars do rotate in real life. Thank you for any suggestions! :) Willow (talk) 18:00, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I need help entering my project: KidCast for Peace; Solutions for a Better World

Hello,

I have been trying to get the powers that be to allow the inclusion of a page entitle:

KidCast or KidCast for Peace: The idea of Kids broadCasting to the Adults came to me in 1995. I proceeded to invent a game for children and teachers mentors to play wherein the kids learn about different cultures and peace by making art and making contact with peers in other countries via CUSeeMe Video Conferencing at a time when this was innovative on the Net: 1994 (was our first use of the medium the year before KidCast was born).

Anyway, you are an educator so I picked you since society is your "beat" and I have been getting heat from the powers that be, about my attempted entry to this Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Peterrosen

My article attempt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KidCast

that i just rewrote, I don't know how to get back to the original attempt.

Thanks for any help in formating, validation and navigation of the powers that be so to help enable reference to this noble work.

Blessings and Peace Peter Rosen peter@creativity.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterrosen (talk • contribs) 19:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Prague Spring

Hi, I was wondering whether you could check this article for prose, formatting and just an overall assessment, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.--The Dominator (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, no problem, thanks for the formatting tip, I was wondering how to do that.--The Dominator (talk) 15:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Goriot

It will take me a while to get to it, because I have some other reviews to do first and I am pretty slow. But it's on my list. qp10qp (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Only 94 articles away from a La Comédie humaine Featured Topic? I'll certainly check in, and thinks in kind for looking over Ryan White. It's funny that Set made you think of me. Everyone who knows me well, on wiki or in real life, associates me with hippos. It's sort of my main motivation to exercise. I'm sure that if I put on as much as 10 pounds almost everyone I know would have some clever quip about, "Haha Jay, are you trying to become a hippo now?" --JayHenry (talk) 23:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Help With Technical Stuff

Hey! :) Right now, I do not need help with technical stuff on the portal, but if I do I'll let you know. However, Could you help me with my userpage? I think it looks rather bland, but maybe its just me. --Grrrlriot (talk) 02:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I replied to this on my talk page. --Grrrlriot (talk) 04:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

proposed Indonesian occupation of East Timor

Hi - just want to say I look forward to reading this article. I can understand that you are busy and that thesee things take time. Good luck. SmithBlue (talk) 07:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Timeline of Jane Austen

Do you have a moment to fix a table? See note at Talk:Timeline of Jane Austen. Thanks. Awadewit | talk 19:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Review of Le Père Goriot

Hi Scartol, I went though Le Père Goriot and it reads wonderfully as always; you have a gift for rich, satisfying prose! :) I made a few amendments at places where the text seemed ambiguous (to me), which you should check to make sure they're OK. Hoping that they helped and looking forward to your next project, :) Willow (talk) 22:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

PS. Oh, one question. I noticed that it's categorized under Category:Masterpiece Theatre — should you make some reference to M.T. in the text, maybe in the last paragraph? Just a thought, Willow (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

PPS. Oh, one more thing. In the lead, the phrase "struggle of class" is vague and leaves the reader perplexed. Does it mean class warfare in society, or the struggle of individuals to obtain higher rank, or the importance of class in determining one's worth in society? Or maybe all of that at once? However beguiling the portmanteau of meaning, it might be better to spell it out more prosaically. ;) Willow (talk) 22:51, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

At your service

I'd love to review Le Père Goriot. I'm not sure what kind of assistance I can offer if Awadewit and now Willow have already gone over it, but I'm flattered that you've asked me. It may have to wait until tomorrow, however; I have class until late tonight and I'll probably be too exhausted from Nietzsche to take on Balzac.  ;) María (habla conmigo) 17:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: R.E.M. FA

Thanks! WesleyDodds (talk) 12:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

19th-century novels task force

Hi, Scartol/Archives/2008/January. I'm starting up a 19th-century novels task force for WP:NOVELS. This would cover the works of many well-known authors, including Jane Austen, Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, Victor Hugo and Leo Tolstoy. If you think you'd be interested in supporting or participating in the task force, please let me know. Cheers. – Liveste [talk • contrib] 23:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Vädersolstavlan

Hello,
You are a volunteered copyeditor listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers and I'd be glad if you could have a look at the article Vädersolstavlan I just nominated for peer reviewing. My shortcomings in English most likely makes copyediting both necessary and easy.
Thanks
/ Mats Halldin (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Problem with Emma Goldman references

Please see discussion here. Thanks! P.S. - I remember this issue occurred before with the Drinnon citations as well. It might be a good idea for you to get in the habit of including book names in your citations by default, as you never know when some other editor might come along and add a new book to the references by the same author. Kaldari (talk) 19:11, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for peer review

Hi, I saw your name on the wikipedia:peer review volunteer page. I'm currently working on a science article called the Kardashev Scale, the page has gone through a lot of changes in the last 3 months, some of them reverts that I wish to overturn. I've sent out some notices to people who have worked on the page previously but I'm having problems getting open opinions and feedback. Their ideas about what they want the article to be about and look like are pretty set. I need outside opinion.

In my opinion the Kardashev scale has 3 primary interests:

• 1) A benchmark used by Seti scientists in there search for extraterrestrials
• 2) A catch-all vocabulary term for a scale used by scientists, in classifying advanced civilizations. This has important implications when speculating on sociological structures of advanced civilizations. But also, it is a necessary analysis when talking what about clues might be left behind or generated by alien species; which then might lead the the discovery of extraterrestrials.
• 3) Because it is can be used for the speculation of advanced civilizations it is a magnet for those interested in science fiction. Not many science fiction writers actually talk about the scale or the power generated by fiction species in power(WATTS) terms, but science fiction enthusiasts are interested in the Kardashev Scale.

My primary goals are in advancing the content area of number 2 and diminishing the fictional content. After all, it is a scientific not a fictional topic. My secondary goals are to find and add published content on the extension of the scale. The feedback I have gotten is pretty much divided between goals 1 or 3. And I don't want to create a editing war!

So please read the article and the discussion page and tell me what you think!!

• 1)Is the article presently fine the way it is?
• 2)After you read it, did you get the impression that it was a science article or a science fiction article?
• 3)Was it too long, too short, easy to understand?
• 4)Was the article interesting, was it boring, did it feel jumbled or was it concise?
• 5)What do you think might be needed to be added to this article, what do you think needs to be edited out?

Thx--Sparkygravity (talk) 18:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Heroes peer review

I noticed that your user name was on the Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers list. I was wondering if you could take some time out of your schedule to head over to the Heroes (TV series) talkpage and give us an honest peer review. The page has gone through some major changes in the last few months, and it would be fantastic if a prominent editor/contributor like yourself, could head over and give us at the Heroes Wikiproject some sound opinion and ideas on improvements for the page. We have all worked very hard at improving the page, and we need great outside, reliable and trustworthy users to come over and help us improve. I you are interested in joining the peer review discussion with other prominent users/contributors, much like yourself, please follow the link. Thank you very much for your help and your continued effort to improve Wikipedia and its quality! Wikipedia:Peer review/Heroes (TV series)/archive2--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 05:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday! Hope you enjoy some well deserved time off from the daily grind of Wikipedia :) Kaldari (talk) 00:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Is it really your birthday? Many happy returns! You're one of the nicest people and best writers I've met at Wikipedia; I feel really lucky that our paths happened to cross! :) Hoping you spend the day surrounded by your nearest and dearest, Willow (talk) 03:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Rambo? That's about as good as a birthday gets. Have you read how serious Stallone is about this movie? Hilarious! --JayHenry (talk) 18:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I missed your birthday! Well, a very merry unbirthday to you! Awadewit | talk 21:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Balzac Bibliography

Have you seen this Balzac bibliography? Bibliography of Balzac criticism, 1930-1990 edited by Mark W. Waggoner - it sounds a bit more recent than the one you recently bought. Awadewit | talk 20:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Some citations for Le Père Goriot. I think perhaps a little more research is needed for Balzac's "greatest" novel - :). Here are some more sources I found in my quest. I hope they are helpful. Awadewit | talk 20:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• Bolster, Richard. Balzac: Le Père Goriot. London, England: Grant & Cutler; 2000.
• Le Père Goriot et l'unité de La Comédie humaine By: Pugh, Anthony R.. pp. 123-32 IN: Vachon, Stéphane (ed. and preface); Balzac: Une Poétique du roman. Montreal, QC; Saint-Denis, France: XYZ; PU de Vincennes; 1996. 460 pp.

• More recent is usually better - you can check to make sure. Awadewit | talk 20:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• The One vs. the Many: Minor Characters and the Space of the Protagonist in the Novel By: Woloch, Alex. Princeton, NJ: Princeton UP; 2003. ix, 391 pp. (book)
• Le Sublime et le grotesque chez Balzac: L'Exemple du 'Père Goriot' By: Brunel, Pierre; Année Balzacienne, 2001; 2: 31-56. (journal article)
• The Framed Image: The Chain of Metaphors in Balzac's Le Père Goriot By: Boldt, Leslie Anne; Nineteenth-Century French Studies, 1991 Summer; 19 (4): 517-35. (journal article)
• Realism and Revolution: Balzac, Stendhal, Zola and the Performances of History By: Petrey, Sandy. Ithaca: Cornell UP; 1988. 211 pp. (book)
• Les Adaptations du 'Père Goriot' By: Boulard-Bezat, Sylvie; L'Annee Balzacienne, 1987; 8: 167-178. (journal article)
• La Vie posthume du 'Père Goriot' en France By: Lichtlé, Michel; L'Annee Balzacienne, 1987; 8: 131-165. (journal article)
• Le Père Goriot By: Gengembre, Gérard (ed.). Paris: Magnard; 1985. 546 pp. (book)

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What happened here? Awadewit | talk 05:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Empire of Atlantium

Hi, I placed Empire of Atlantium on the peer review page. I think this article can be a good or featured article, especially since Atlantium's website has more than enough information and User:Gene Poole is the emperor. Could you please help us improve the article? I'll see if I can find other editors to help.

Thanks,

Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 21:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)