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Sanskrit vs Devanagari

Hi there,

with regard to your edits, I agree with the edit on a technical level. However, there is an issue with that, in that we put the language instead of the script due to the fact that it helps identify the etymology of the word, which the script does not do. Also, there is a translation after the script, which means that using the language name would be better. Additionally, which Devanagari script is well known, what about names derived from languages like Punjabi or Malayalam. I hope you understand the point of view. Cheers. ^T/_@Sniperz11_edits^sign 21:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with your point about scripts. But from WP:IAR, if you look at the intent, it is really to inform the reader about the etymology of the word itself, and what language it has come from. The person reading it doesn't really care about the script, but is more keen on figuring out which language it is from. Putting devanagari or Gurmukhi will confuse non-indian readers. Plus, after the script, there is the language translation. Now, imagine someone who doesnt even know about Punjabi language (or punjab). What do you think he'll think if he sees NAME (Gurmukhi: SCRIPT, MEANING). It would be extremely confusing and non-informative, especially when you realize that he doesnt get to know which language it comes from.

Also consider if you have something written in Marathi or any other language which uses Devanagari (and a lot of them do), it gives absolutely no information to the reader as to which language is being used. Plus, most language scripts are eponymous, so you wouldnt write it as Tamil script to be technically correct. The point is, see the intent and effect. No one cares what the writing is in, but more so in what language it is from, and frankly, putting in the script instead of language doesn't give any info. If they are indeed interested in finding out which script it is in, they can click on the language and find out which script it is in.

I do have a compromise. We could make the text in script link to the script in question. For example, HAL Tejas (Sanskrit: तेजस, Radiant).

^T/_@Sniperz11_edits^sign 14:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. I'll add links to the scrip as well, whenever I encounter them. However, this may not be possible when there is a pronunciation file added, like in HAL Tejas. However, in other pages, I'll add them. Thanks a lot. Good day. ^T/_@Sniperz11_edits^sign 16:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Billionaire

According to my research those number I have are correctt!! but if you want to change it back, your more than welcome. The Forbes list your referring to is Bogus, it claims america has 500 billionaires. I guess if you believe it that's your choice. thankd!! Dwilso (talk) 18:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The Billionaire list from Forbes counts wealth in (U.S Dollars). However, this isn't really fair compared to Global standards and other Currencies. Please visit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/19/russia and http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gPISYBCvfomF_o23rcIEbS0__zqQ. If you wish to List the Billionairs in (U.S Dollars), you are more than welcome too, just make sure you reference it in the article. Thanks Dwilso^talk 06:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you can change the edits back now, maybe you can make a list for millionaires too. thanks!!Dwilso ^talk 21:11, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Sitara - Urdu or Sanskrit

Hi. I had seen this issue from the past few days, and had it in my crosshairs. I was waiting for a debate to start on the article talk page, to see how it went.

Anyway, thanks for letting me know. I've created a new section for this discussion at the HJT-36 talk page and I've also included my opinions there. I think you are right in keeping it as Hindi/Urdu, since I dont recall anywhere seeing "Sitara" as a Sanskrit word. In fact, IMO, the etymology should be Urdu, since that is the proper source of the word, and not Hindi.

cheers. ^T/_@Sniperz11_edits^sign 02:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Tata Nano name

In actuality, none of the references so far cited actually attribute the name of the car to anything specific. So the best it can be said is that Nano may derive from "nanometre" or from the Gujarati for "small." Would you like to edit the article accordingly? 842U (talk) 11:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Mango

Hi,

Although I agree with your view, I think that Indian names should be there in this article, maybe not exactly next to the English name. Mango, as a fruit is a part of Indian culture, cuisines & rituals. The fruit as well as tree leaves are used extensively across India in day to day life. We cannot ignore the cultural importance of mango. Hence I feel that local names should be mention in the article. Let’s not forget the objective of Wikipedia-is to make knowledge available for everyone. The more information an article has, easier to fulfill the purpose. I’m not asking to put other names right next to English name, just that some user may need to know this & the article on other languages on same topic may not always have sufficient information.

You’ve said “The main reason these scripts are often inserted is to signify the original spelling of the term from the language it derives from.” This is not the case always. For ex. - if you read any article on topic related to china, you’ll know that original Chinese names & there English equivalents are far from each other. Inserting local script gives a brief idea about actual local terms, by which the object is being referred or recognized- in the region of origin or where it’s been used extensively. As far as etymology is concerned it should not be limited to one specific name. A detail information on other names will improve standard of this article. An article on Tea is a good example. Please take a look at following Tea#Etymology and cognates in other languages. Considering the vandalism this article has faced, I think we need to pay attention to all available names & their origins. Let the reader decide whether such information is necessary for him or not. We’ll never know when it could come handy.

Sanket ar (talk) 16:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Popović

I know what i did, have a look on Popovici. Matthew_hk tc 11:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Why is this vandalism?

Can you explain your reason for dismissing the recent change to East Lancashire Line as vandalism? You may have other reasons for undoing it, but "vandalism" doesn't make sense. --Dr Greg (talk) 17:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Indian Space Agency

Why have you reverted that citation I removed on the Indian Space Agency page?? The citation refers the reader to a page which does not support the statement 'India is regarded as one of the six major space powers of the world'. You have made that judgement - no one else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colliver55 (talk) 04:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your feedback - I will add to the discussion page :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colliver55 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Mango

Hello 3000

This is your quote: "I joined Wikipedia to set straight some articles which were far from accurate."

From this link, http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/4-30-2005-69332.asp, the following statements are "far from accurate". None has been proved by rigorous scientific research, and each would represent a violation of FDA regulations for making health claims.

When I see a source with careless, unresearched statements like these, it is a red flag that the author is non-scientific and unaware of how regulatory agencies (in Europe where you are, the EFSA) require precise science and care in stating potential health effects so consumers will not be misled. For an encyclopedia, we have to be vigilant, rigorous and most of all, accurate.

• Mango is used as blood builders
• Green mangoes have a cooling effect
• It tones up the heart muscle, improves complexion and stimulates appetite. It increases the seven body nutrients, called 'dhatus' in Ayurveda. It gives beta-carotene, which is a form of Vitamin A and it is also responsible for the bright orange color of mangoes. Ripe mangoes are good for eyes and skin too. Future4u1. It prevents many other eye diseases that may ultimately cause total blindness.

From this link, http://www.sos-arsenic.net/english/homegarden/mango.html, are the following unscientific, undocumented (incredible!) statements:

• The ripe fruit is a good laxative, increases the urine flow and cools the blood.
• The ripe mango is antiscorbutic, diuretic, laxative, -invigorating, fattening and astringent. It tones up the heart muscle, improves complexion and stimulates appetite. It increases the seven body nutrients, called 'dhatus' in Ayurveda. They are food juice, blood, flesh, fat, bone marrow and semen. The fruit is beneficial in liver disorders, loss of weight and other physical disturbances.
• The unripe mango protects men from the adverse effects of hot, scorching winds. A drink, prepared from the unripe mango by cooking it in hot ashes and mixing the pith with sugar and water, is an effective remedy for heat exhaustion and heat stroke.
• Unripe green mangoes are beneficial in the treatment of gastro-intestinal disorders.

• plus numerous other inaccurate, misleading, unscientific fabrications on the rest of the page

All the Best. --Paul144 (talk) 17:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

With regard to nutrition and potential health value, any reference to the Vedas is unscientific folk medicine bearing no documentable fact and so is not supportable for an encyclopedia. There are already sufficient references in the mango article to these traditional beliefs. --Paul144 (talk) 18:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm being objective and only want encyclopedic facts on the mango page, as I believe is the intent of Wikipedia. If you think Vedas and mango have importance together, you should write a section for the Vedas page. --Paul144 (talk) 19:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Let's be democratic about this. Cut & paste this whole conversation onto the mango discussion page so others can join in. I'm not opposed to a sentence saying that mango was used in ancient times and is mentioned in Vedas writings. I am opposed to using unscientific fabrications about its supposed health benefits as stated in the links you used. --Paul144 (talk) 19:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

This is where we began with you saying: with reference to some of your edits including this and this, I'd like to know why were those citations removed.

I gave you reasons why and those are still unacceptable references.

If you agree with my reference to the ayurveda (medicine) where I revised the 2nd paragraph, and you have a separate reference that is not misleading, then it could be put there. --Paul144 (talk) 20:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Your explanation is clear, 3000. All you need is a reference that states the simple relationship between Hinduism and the mango but doesn't contain blatant misinformation about health benefits. I'll leave this to you now but will keep a watch on the article's revisions. --Paul144 (talk) 13:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I have replied on my talkpage. --dab (𒁳) 10:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I have added my comments to Dab's talk-page. rudra (talk) 00:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Origin of the word almari

1)How sure are you that the word 'almari' comes from Sanskrit?

2) Even if 'almari' comes from Sanskrit, and Sanskrit is older than Portuguese, the word still came to the Malay language through Portuegese influence. (refer to Malaysia history text book)

3) Please also refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loan_words_in_Sri_Lankan_Tamil, which states that almari also came from Portuguese influence.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.199.176.15 (talk) 07:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Warning vandals

Hello S3000.
I noticed that you revert a lot of vandalism. Thank you for helping keep Wikipedia the best encyclopedia in the world!
However, I have noticed that you do not always leave warnings on the vandals talk pages. You should always leave an appropriate warning after reverting vandalism. (The full list of talk page warnings may be found here, along with some suggestions and guidelines for using them.)
Be sure to leave the correct level of warning, and if the vandal has been warned four times in the last month, (Check the vandal's talk page history. Some vandals remove warnings from their talk pages.) report the vandal by going to this page and following the instructions.
Thank you again, and may the vandals fail... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree that sometimes leaving warnings feels like a waste of time, but it is absolutely essential that you do it. In order for a vandal to be blocked, they must be warned at least once. So, basically, if they keep vandalizing, you can get an admin to force them to stop. If it seems too hard to warn all those vandals, a great tool to fight vandalism automatically is Twinkle. I think you should look into it. Also, as far as rollback goes, I understand your sentiments, and if/when I become an admin, I will give it to you. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

As far as resetting the connection, yes, there are some people that will do that, but as far as I know, it is very unlikely that they will receive a new IP address by doing that. Our router does not like my PS3, so it crashes all the time, and I have had the same IP address for nearly 7 months. Even if they do get a new IP address, it is possible to block a range of IPs, so it is still better to warn them. You are correct that it is not required that you warn vandals, but I really think you should. But again, that is your decision. Cheers! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

No prob. BTW, where did you get that telephone in your sig? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Also

Have you heard of rollback before? It allows a user to revert vandalism much faster than by undo-ing it. I think you should ask for it. I am not an admin, or I would give it to you myself. I wrote this just to let you know about the existence of rollback because before someone randomly gave it to me, I did not know it existed. If you ask for it, you should have no problem getting it, as you clearly have an excellent grasp of what constitutes vandalism. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle

Hope you don't mind my dropping in, read this on Jdelanoy's page. If you can, try wp:twinkle which I use, helps you give automatic warnings. I have rollback now but haven't figured out why it is better than Twinkle.Doug Weller (talk) 18:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

It's just copy and paste into your monobook.js page, won't work with IE, the WP:Twinkle page is pretty self-explanatory. Works well for me with Firefox.--Doug Weller (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I've gotten it to work in Opear, you just have to make sure you follow the instructions on the Twinkle page.Doug Weller (talk) 18:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

History of Tango

Perhaps you would look again at your reversion of these edits. My change reduced duplication of multiple links in the reflist as per normal practice, and was not vandalism. After verifying this perhaps you would consider reverting your change. Thanks 88.108.154.164 (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

friendly remember to subst

Hi there, just wanted to remind you to substitute templates on user talk pages. That means you should write {{subst:welcome}} instead of just {{welcome}}. That way, it's harder to blank the templates (and it also reduces the load on the WP servers). Thanks for you help with fighting vandalism! --Nsevs • Talk 12:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Jammu and Kashmir

Since u regularly watch the article, somebody made this edit [1] & got away. Tx --AI009 (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle

Are you sure you haven't set 'my preferences' (next to 'my watchlist' to watch everything you edit? --Doug Weller (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Russian Empire in 1914

Sorry, i was trying to put a deletion tag on it. Its a terrible article that doesn't belong on an encyclopedia. Can you get it deleted? I don't know the code. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.192.141 (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Little error

Hi, could you have a look at this [2] because you managed to undo a correct automatic revert. I am quite sure that it was good faith on your part, but you ended up removing a section again which the bot had correctly reinstated. Cheers and happy editing. Ingolfson (talk) 07:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hat

Hello, please check your reversions because in this edit, you undid someone's removal of vandalism. Thanks. APK ^{yada yada} 17:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. Thanks for notifying. Good day!  S3000  ☎ 17:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Easy with that twinkle!

Not only did you get the Hat reversion the wrong way (as reported above); here you're reverting disputed content, not vandalism. I was slightly worried, so I checked some more reverts of yours; I'm happy to say I was relieved. Good work! But please try avoiding those little scares, okay? — the Sidhekin (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you're Twinkle went haywire

here. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Sagarika

Hi... just saw ur message. I've replied at Template talk:Indian missiles. Cheers. Sniperz11_@^CS 12:36, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

reversions at friendship article

Did you even look at my changes before reverting them? I think it is terrible the way IP editors are treated (when I'm logging in and out it's a world of difference). Does an article that is supposed to be an overview of friendship need a quotefarm about how close friendships are declining in one country, a thing about the motto of texas, and a glossary of slang terms about friendship? If you read the edit summaries, it is clear that these are not "edit tests". Mangostar (talk) 17:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism

I quite agree that persistent offenders should be blocked. Unfortunately the references we placed at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weathering_steel#External_links

Were links to data sheets.

These were vandalised by another user who substituted their own details and deleted ours.

We redited to leave both sets of details but they persistently deleted our links.

Watch the page. I am sure they will be back! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corten (talk • contribs) 14:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

weathering steel

thanks for the advice.

Corten (talk) 15:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The Woody Show

You took out "Bread the word" and "For reals"? Those are both common phrases on the show, they just retold the "for reals" story again the other day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.38.203 (talk) 15:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Christopher Conselice

Re: edit of Christopher Conselice Many apologies, the second edit reverted the first (disastrous) edit. 128.243.220.22 (talk) 14:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Mango

There seems to be no good reference at a "Secondary source" about it. Direct reference will not be accepted at wiki. As far as vedas are concerned even if I find it, Dab and others will not be able to add it.BalanceΩrestored ^Talk 12:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Check if this book has the reference abt it [3] BalanceΩrestored ^Talk 12:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

http://ignca.nic.in/sjha0003.htm check this for the mention of burning of Mango Tree for purification.BalanceΩrestored ^Talk 08:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Again the mention of Mango in Upanishad http://sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe15/sbe15075.htm BalanceΩrestored ^Talk 08:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

http://www.hpenvis.nic.in/sacred.aspx mentions "In one of the Shalokas of Atharva Veda 11, it is mentioned that banks of rivers, lakes and ponds were used to be planted by Radamba(Anthocephalus cadamba), amra or mango (Mangifera indica), Jambu or black berry(Eugenia Jambolana), Madhuka or Indian butter tree (Bassia Latifolia), vata or banyan tree (ficus bengalensis) etc. " BalanceΩrestored ^Talk 08:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

We are already aware of amra in Brahmanas and Upanishads. The claim on "one of the Shalokas of Atharva Veda 11" otoh would need some sort of quotable reference, ideally a reference to which shloka we are talking about. The dictionaries are not aware of amra occurring in the AV Samhita text. --dab (𒁳) 11:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

holstein cattle

tall paul can actually bench a holstein cow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.204.217.54 (talk) 11:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

There was no reason to remove the Lyrics for Filter - Soldier Of Misfortune

I got this message after the edit I made was removed:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles, as you did to Soldiers of Misfortune. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. S3000 ☎ 11:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make the edit, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

The lyrics were entered for informational purposes ONLY, and there was no soapbox, advertising, or any other inappropriate intention. You may contact me at dudeboyz AT gmail DOT com for further discussion if you would like.

I sincerely wish and formally request that you either clarify exactly what the issue was, or preferably restore the edit to the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_of_Misfortune

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.75.103 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. Lyrics posted and reference removed.

I appreciate your response and explanation.

I have happily re-posted the lyrics, but left off the information in the reference area as requested. The intent was to provide a reference to avoid any possible concerns about the accuracy of the post. Sometimes I read Wikipedia pages that have notes similar to "This section needs to be verified".

I apologize if I did this improperly.

Thank you again 71.231.75.103 (talk) 12:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Update Request

I have now created an account, since I do wish to contribute, and was hoping by doing that, I would be able to correct a possible mistake I seem to have made, though I'm not sure.

I believe that in the original article, there was a graphic of the album cover, but it appears to no longer be there. I had assumed since I didn't have an account, it denied the reference to the graphic.

Is it possible for you to restore that album graphic, if it was indeed in place?

Thank you very much. 71.231.75.103 (talk) 12:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

ERRR - please disregard. It appears it has been restored.

In addition, I was unaware that published lyrics for a song played over the radio, properly referenced, in any way violated copyrights.

If you would / could take the time to look into that, I would appreciate it. I'd like to make sure that if it is indeed a violation, that I do not make the same mistake again.

Best wishes to you. 71.231.75.103 (talk) 12:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied to your IP address identity (i.e. 71.231.75.103) as I don't have your username.  S3000  ☎ 12:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Revert

The tag which I removed does not belong in article space but on WP:RPP. 81.227.66.243 (talk) 05:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Organic Food Edit

Just trying to say that this article (2007) hasn't been published yet - results have just been from a press release - they have not been peer reviewed or published.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/29/organics.sciencenews

David Driscoll

Daviddriscoll (talk) 11:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio on WP:ANI

Please read the section which I removed. An private email was posted on WP:ANI and the author specifically indicates that he does not give permission for such reproduction. 70.243.80.195 (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

What I mean is that a private email has been reproduced in full over the explicit objection of its author. That is a copyright violation. Aren't such violations supposed to be removed wherever they occur on Wikipedia? 70.243.80.195 (talk) 12:19, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The e-mail in question was for the purpose of canvassing, which is against wikipedia rules. There was no agreement between the sender and the receivers that it was to be a privileged communication. The author's name was concealed, so there is no privacy issue. There is also no commercial value to the e-mail. The copyright complaint is a red herring intended to distract away from the canvassing issue. The author of the e-mail got caught, and he's not happy about it. That's what this is actually about. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 15:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. FYI, the IP address in question has now been blocked for 6 months. [4] Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 13:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It's unclear what the IP address' special interest in all this was, and the user Rosencomet denies that the IP address is him. But with the IP address blocked, it will be interesting to see if Rosencoment also disappears for awhile. I'm not seeing any obvious connection through their respective contrib lists, though. [5] [6] Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 13:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The cryptic comment in the block notice suggests that the IP is a sock of the banned user User:Ekajati, who has at least some peripheral connection to User:Rosencomet which, FYI, has the real name of that e-mail's author on the page. This kind of intrigue occurs all the time on wikipedia, and admins spend much of their time dealing with it. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 13:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I've asked the blocking admin for info, if he's willing to share. I'm not an admin, but I've gotten into the habit of watching the WP:ANI page, where the various game-playing is brought to light - sockpuppetry, edit warring, personal attacks and other threats, fake articles, and all manner of the seamier side of wikipedia. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll let you know, when or if I find out something. Meanwhile, here's another reason I wouldn't want the admin job: [7] I don't know why they fool around with these guys. This one is just begging for a block. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View

Infact I have modified the existing article from a neutral point of view. Whereas the original Article had been a "Biased" one which do not present the actual statistics about the population of Kashmir. I hope that Wikipedia should convey the real & actual information through this article and not the biased one.

Thanks.

Zubair71 (talk) 04:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice Job!

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thanks for cleaning up my userpage! Shapiros10 (talk) 12:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Warning notice S3000 for undoing edits on United States discussions

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on United States deleting content sources on Russia as a superpower, continuing to undo edits and not discussing is a violation. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. —--24.205.234.250 (talk)

Frances

I agree that this does not improve the article, but how is it vandalism? The same IP had earlier made these edits to the article which appear very much ok and definitely good-faithed. user:Dorftrottel  16:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Original research

Hi there i have been benefiting from wikipedia from quite a long time but am new to the contributing so what does original research encompass does it encompas quotes from books too because the last change i made was a quote from an oxford book Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by PakistaniGenius (talk • contribs) 05:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Gilles Esnault

Dear S3000,

Regarding Gilles Esnault, the French painter recently add to his name 'Paul", so I was just contributing to this update this information.,

Regards,

Patindiana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.2.22.162 (talk) 15:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)