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Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society

Hi PointOfPresence,

I noticed the edit you made to the above article, and after some research i think it would seem that Journal des sçavans is just a tad older. Citation 2 which you referred to seems to claim that the first magazine came out on 6 March 1665, while this source claims that the Journal des sçavans was first published on January 5, 1665. As both sources seem reliable and very specific about publishing dates, i would say that our verifiable information seems to suggest that Journal des sçavans is just a tad older. I added the source i mentioned to the article, and reinstated the old version. Kind regards, Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Yes, I completely agree that JDS is older. This is not in question. My point is that Phil Trans is the first journal devoted exclusively to science. That is why I made the edits I did. If you look at the ref no.1 in the JDS wikipedia entry, you will see that this is explained. Reference 2 in the Phil Trans article also bears this out, so I think it is clearly a matter of fact.

Thanks PointOfPresence (talk) 10:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, the old version seems to do a better job explaining this, as i can imagine there might be some confusion regarding the wording as not everyone may take immediate notice the "exclusively devoted to science" part. The previous version seems to acknowledge that it is the oldest "Scientific only" publication in the world, while also addressing the fact that Journal des sçavans is older - yet not entirely dedicated to science. I would say that the latter is relevant to the article as well as there seem to be some conflicting opinions about it. How about leaving both in with the reference i added? It is not conflicting information - only additional context to the "Oldest scientific journal" question. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:57, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. Thanks for your constructive attitude here. I agree that your addition of ref 1 is a good one. My ref 3 also makes the same point that Phi Trans was solely devoted to science, whilst JDS was clearly quite a diverse journal. Given that not everyone reads the references on wikipedia, I would still quite like to see the article point out that JDS was not really a science journal in the same way. I think it is only fair to explain the pivotal role of Phil Trans in the history of science (establishing the key principles of scientific priority and peer review). Would you be happy with that? PointOfPresence (talk) 11:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

May I suggest the following wording?

The Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society (Phil. Trans.) is a scientific journal published by the Royal Society. It was established in 1665, making it the first journal in the world exclusively devoted to science and it has remained in continuous publication ever since. The slightly earlier Journal des Scavans can also lay claim to be the world's first science journal, although it contained a wide variety of non-scientific material also.PointOfPresence (talk) 11:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Fine with me, it discusses the claim both magazines have to "Being the oldest" and points out the difference between them which makes each claim slightly different. With both references added i see no issue whatsoever in the wording - expect the addition of also at the end perhaps - may i suggest replacing that with "as well"? Note that if you do not agree it is not an issue that needs discussing - i am satisfied either way. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Society

Hey dude. I've reverted your inclusion of the Charles II medal, just because it's formatted differently from the others and unreferenced. Can I suggest writing a list on it, using this as an example? Ironholds (talk) 06:40, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

An additional list is the appropriate thing, really (unless it's a one-off award?); you'll note that not all the medals are mentioned in the article. Still, if you can reference the award correctly I guess we could include it. Ironholds (talk) 13:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

If the information is available on your website (as the others are) I can churn out a WP list; if not, get somebody to post a list on the RS website and I'm happy to churn out a WP list similar to the others. Ironholds (talk) 11:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant; I'll get on to that in a tick. Ironholds (talk) 16:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

• By the way, could you email me the contact info for whoever we should speak to about possible RS contributions to Wikimedia? The British chapter is looking to form links to cultural institutions, particularly for the purpose of encouraging such organisations to put more content into the public domain (or let us get our grubby mits/scanner on it for the same purpose). Ironholds (talk) 23:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  I know; I wrote it :P. What I mean is; you'll notice that all other RS medals have their own dedicated lists which display winners, data, rationales, etc, and link to that page. I'd look to do a similar one with the Charles II medal. Ironholds (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

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Ping

Mind emailing me? Long story ;p. Ironholds (talk) 13:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Just looking to poke you vis a vis a WMUK collaboration with your employer - however, thanks to a lovely webmaster at the Society, it's now gone ahead :). Ironholds (talk) 05:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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Can you turn on your email option so I can send you the draft? S Philbrick(Talk) 12:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Apologies. Didn't realise it was off! Fixed now. Thanks for your help. Point of Presencetalk 12:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done S Philbrick(Talk) 15:59, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

PRS usage with former presidents of the Royal Society

I don't think you're correct in your belief that former presidents of the Royal Society lose the postnominal PRS. I can find plenty of evidence to the contrary. For example, the Royal Society's website lists Sir Isaac Newton as 'Sir Isaac Newton PRS FRS' (same for e.g. Christopher Wren). The Royal Society Publishing website also lists the first president as PRS. If you would be so kind as to self-revert your many changes to replace PRS -> FRS, that would be great. Many thanks — Jumbo T (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. I am the Publishing Director at the Royal Society and I checked this with both the Executive Director and the Head of Library and Archives before making the changes. Thanks for pointing out the issue on our website - I clearly need to get this fixed! (incidentally, Debrett's Peerage says that PRS is only used within the Royal Society - we don't go quite that far. Thanks. Point of Presencetalk 16:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the response. Clearly you know better than me in this case :)

By the way, for transparency, I'd strongly advise you to disclose your conflict of interest with the Royal Society on your user page. Happy editing — Jumbo T (talk) 18:12, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. That's a good suggestion as I quite often edit articles relating to the Society, our Fellows or our journals. Point of Presencetalk 19:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

About Draft:Richard Cogdell

@Sphilbrick, Jay, and PointOfPresence: Jay and Sphilbrick: could you possibly look this draft's Talk page and address PointOfPresence's comments about issues raised there? PointOfPresence, while you may well be the publishing director of *the* Royal Society en.wp content is moderated by mostly faceless unimportant drones, and a good example of one them would be, well, me . Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi. The draft is now an article, so the issues have been resolved. Thanks Point of Presencetalk 10:47, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Replied there. Jay 💬 11:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick, Jay, and PointOfPresence: I note that Talk:Richard Cogdell has yet to be created.--Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 12:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't want to move Draft talk:Richard Cogdell as the target talk, since that talk was specific for the draft page. Jay 💬 12:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Historic Paris churches

Thanks very much for catching my oversight of two important churches. Ive added St Sulpice and will add St. Eustache shortly. Best wishes, SiefkinDR (talk) 20:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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