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Ongoing collaboration you may be interested in

Howdy, pard. There's some ongoing work at Finnish Volunteer Battalion of the Waffen-SS between myself, Roniius (talk), and K.e.coffman (talk) that I think you may be interested in. We're aiming to get the article to Good Article, and I hope you're not too busy to chip in. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 18:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I'd be happy to chip in to the extent that I'm able. If nothing else, it's a good excuse for me to finally check out the 2019 book by Westerlund. -Ljleppan (talk) 19:08, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Let me know esp. if you need anything translated from Finnish. -Ljleppan (talk) 19:43, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ljleppan, I'm inquiring about this passage from Panttipataljoona: Suomalaisen SS-pataljoonan historia on Finnish wiki:

Kirjassaan Jokipii esitti, että suomalaisista SS-miehistä enintään viidennes olisi ollut oikeistoradikaaleja, ja värvääjät karsivat hakijoista pois ääriaineksia. Näin Suomi olisi tarkoituksellisesti jäänyt kauas Saksan asettamasta tavoitteesta, jonka mukaan oikeistoaineksia olisi pitänyt olla noin kaksi kolmasosaa Saksaan lähteneistä. Muiden muassa historiantutkijat Oula Silvennoinen ja Marko Tikka ovat 2010-luvulla esille tulleen arkistoaineiston valossa kuitenkin osoittaneet Jokipiin kaunistelleen oikeistoradikaalien osuutta, ja SS-vapaaehtoiset ja heidät värvännyt toimikunta olivat huomattavasti Jokipiin esittämää vahvemmin erilaisten kansallismielisten radikaalien, fasistien ja kansallissosialistien käsissä. Silvennoisen ja Tikan mukaan noin 46 prosenttia vapaaehtoisista eli yli kaksinkertainen määrä Jokipiin laskelmiin verrattuna olisi ilmaissut olevansa selkeästi fasistisen politiikan kannattajia.

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Is this a valid source / content? Roniius indicated that the source could not be found online, so I wonder if you, as a Finnish speaker, can shed some light. --K.e.coffman (talk) 18:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the source, Aamulehti is a large (I think second largest?) Finnish daily newspaper, so in that sense its "legitimate". On the other hand, it's just a newspaper. The citation seems to be into the print version, which is a bit infuriating. Thankfully, the online version of the same story seems to be available here (dated two days prior). The wikitext references the contents of the "Tausta" ("Background") section very faithfully. Machine translations of Finnish tend to be, well, horrible, so here's a quick translation of the wikitext (I can also translate the source if needed, but I wasn't certain if sharing that on the talk page would be frowned upon):

In his book, Jokipii states that at most one fifth of the Finnish SS-men would have been right wing radicals, and that recruiters weeded out extremist applicants. As such, Finland would have purposefully been far from the German goal, according to which approximately two thirds of those who left for Germany should have been "right wing materiel". Among others, historians such as Oula Silvennoinen and Marko Tikka have, based on archival materiel that surfaced in the 2010s, shown that Jokipii sugarcoated [lit. "made beautiful"] the amount of right wing radicals, and that both the SS-volunteers and the board that recruited them were much more in the hands of nationalist radicals, fascists and national socialists than proposed by Jokipii. According to Silvennoinen and Tikka, approximately 46 percent of the volunteers, i.e. over twice the number calculated by Jokipii, would have clearly expressed their support for fascist politics.

-Ljleppan (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you -- this is very helpful. I've re-added the content to the article. --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

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Alois Rodlauer

Hello,

A B Class assessor seldom gives such a detailed review as the one you rendered. It is my policy to accept the assessments given. I have added some explanatory notes to the review, which may help your future assessments. Many thanks for the thorough review.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

@Georgejdorner: Hi, I'm relatively new to assessment, so I didn't just want to drive-by with a "Start-class" without at least attempting to justify my thought process. Regarding theaerodrome.com, I started a discussion on WT:MILHIST, here. -Ljleppan (talk) 06:29, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Finnish Volunteer Battalion of the Waffen-SS

Hello:

I sent a note to Ronius following my copy edit of this article as they requested it. I see you've done a lot of work on it recently. As I told them, there are a number of sentences in the article that are unclear and these have been tagged "Clarification needed". In edit mode you can see my question in masked text.You might want to have a look at these and clarify any you can. There are a couple of instances in the Dissolution section where I've added a "whom" tag to clarify who the text is referring to.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: A huge thanks for the copy edit and the clarification requests, I appreciate the pass-over a lot! We had something of an unofficial collaborative effort to improve the article, and I think the parts tagged Clarification Needed were contributed by others, so I'll wait a bit to see whether they have the time/energy to address them before I start digging for the sources myself. -Ljleppan (talk) 13:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ljleppan: You're very welcome! Makes perfect sense! Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:39, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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Finnish VI Corps (Continuation War)

HI, in this edit you added references to "Hietanen 1992" but there is no such work listed. This causes the article to appear in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors and also means nobody can look the reference up. I suspect the work is Silvo Hietanen (1992). Kansakunta sodassa, 3. osa Kuilun yli. Helsinki: Valtion painatuskeskus, Opetusministeriö. ISBN 951-861-384-2, but as I have neither the work nor the Finnish to confirm that I though it best to ask you. DuncanHill (talk) 15:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: Wow, you had a fast reaction time! I meant to add the ref in an immediately following edit which got delayed a bit as I had forgotten to translate the chapter title beforehand. Should be fixed now. -Ljleppan (talk) 15:35, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

It is fixed, thank you. I've got the maintenance category watchlisted, and I just got in and had a quick look to see if any articles had been added to it recently. All the best, DuncanHill (talk) 15:41, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:PV Lehtinen

Hi Ljleppan. Thanks for your comments and advice. If feel that there was no copyrighted materials in the first place. Short bio is factual information, it's not copyright material. Anyways, I have now re-edited the article and sources. Can you check current draft? Thank you in advance! best, Ruutanaonki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruutanaonki (talk • contribs) 15:37, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

@Ruutanaonki: Hi, I have to confess I don't really know enough about cinema (never mind this type of cinema) to make a meaningful review of the content. With regard to the copyright stuff, I was concerned because there was a rather large overlap in the initial article with the IMBD page, but that seems to have been handled :) All the best, Ljleppan (talk) 12:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Independent_sources

Hi. I have a question for you since you mention sources that are "not USAF/US military, his employer, etc.)", so perhaps you can point me in the right direction if there is policy specifically addressing this issue. I was going to ask for some guidance on this at the discussion forum above, but perhaps guidance on this already exists that you know of. While I can see how the policy on independent sources can be translated as applying to all Air Force sources as references to Air Force topics, but what about Navy sources on Air Force topics? To my way of thinking, there is enough separation between the two to make them independent. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 20:29, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I believe the most comprehensive single-location guidance on independence can be found on WP:INDEPENDENT. While a USN source would be further separated from a USAF subject than a USAF source, I personally wouldn't view them as independent: they are, after all, still parts of the same larger organizational structure and have significant ties with each other, including a vested interest in maintaining a positive overall image of the US military at large. Or put otherwise: the umbrella entity of US Government (or however one would call it, I'm not from the US so I'm not too clear what the correct term here is) has an interest in presenting all US military personnel in a positive light, and both USN and USAF are components of that larger entity. -Ljleppan (talk) 20:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! I think I'll ask the question on the discussion forum for clarification as I don't see it specifically addressed in WP:INDEPENDENT, which would leave a lot of room for interpretation. I personally look at it a little differently, that the military has a vested interest in improving, thus criticizing or praising where applicable. I think there is a good argument (and many opinions about it) that the Department of the Air Force is much different then the Department of the Air Navy, and certainly different than the broader U.S. Government. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Asking for more feedback sounds good, it's certainly not quite as clear-cut as many other situations. -Ljleppan (talk) 21:44, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I did ask for guidance here. Honestly, perhaps I'm making some bad assumptions about it. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 22:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Finnish Civil War

Would you be willing to look at this from a content/sourcing perspective? There's an ongoing push to review all FAs last promoted/reviewed at WP:FAR from 2015 or before, and as a 2006 promotion, this is one of the oldest ones that still needs looked at. Hog Farm _Talk 23:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: I'll try to find time for a once-over in the next few days. I'd hope to be able to spot any massive content issues, even if I'm not that well read on the topic. Ljleppan (talk) 05:56, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

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Vladimir Grendal biographical dictionary entry

Hi, I was wondering if you had access to the Finish national biography entry on Vladimir Grendal. I'm looking to use it to expand the article, and believe it might provide information that isn't in Russian sources on him. Kges1901 (talk) 23:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure, Kges1901! Here's some quick notes:

• Name listed as "Woldemar Davidinpoika Gröndahl, Wladimir, also Grendahl" where "Davidinpoika" is the same same construct as "Davidson"/"Davydovich"
• Mother Maria Galotschkin (I believe they always list the maiden name of the mother)
• First wife princess ("ruhtinatar") Nina Soumbatoff (b. 1888; d. 1964), who later married Major General Paul Londén
• Second wife "M. A." (b. 1900, d. 1981)
• Two children: Boris Waldemar (b. 1909, d. 1972), alikersantti; Irina (b. 1913, d. 2008), married director Paul Junker.
• The early military career is listed with minor differences:
  • underlieutenant 1905; examination officer, Russian Army GHQ, St. Petersburg 1911- ; undercaptain; 1st artillery regiment commander, Tallinn 1914- ; Artillery division commander, on front, 1916- ; colonel 1917; Red Army artillery inspector, southern front, 1918-1919
• First book listed as his is "Tarkentava ammunta", 1925. Not sure how to translate the title, perhaps "focusing fire"?
• Prose discussess his friendship with Vilho Petter Nenonen. Nenonen was a year ahead of Grendahl in Mikhailovskoye Artillery School, and two years ahead in the academy. Both worked at the same time in the GHQ and were neighbors, sharing two halves of the same villa. Also had similar duties in Tallinn. Didn't meet after Gröndahl took divisional command.
• [in the 1930s, in Frunze Military Academy,] taught Stalin's son, Yakov Dzhugashvili, which presumably saved him from the purges
• w/r/t Main Artillery Directorate work: Grendahl's influence on red army artillery development has been described as "unusual in scale" and "foundational".
• Grehndal's son Boris took part in Winter War on the Finnish side on the same sector as his father, for which reason the Moscow radio transmissions reminded that "Boris, Boris, you are fighting against your father (no idea what this is referring to)
• When the Soviet military attache Colonel Ivan Smirnov met Nenonen after the Winter War, the conversation turned to the past war and the men's shared friend Grehndal. Smirnov was tasked with delivering Nenonen's greetings to Moscow. The reply never came. Instead, Nenonen heard that Grehndal had just died, aged 56.
• Order of Saint Stanislaus (3rd class, if I'm interpreting the notation right), 1916; title of professor in 1939
• Cancer is specified as lung cancer.

-Ljleppan (talk) 07:22, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks. Does the article provide any more details about his father's background? In some accounts his father is referred to as a general, but Russian military records reveal that he was only a lieutenant-colonel. Kges1901 (talk) 19:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

  The concise bio section calls his father Venäjän armeijan everstiluutnantti David Gröndahl, translates as Russian Army Lieutenant Colonel David Gröndahl. The prose style bio also mentions that his brother Georg Gröndahl (b. 1889, d. 1940) was an artillery captain who moved to Finland after the revolution, and Dmitri Gröndahl (b. 1898, d. 1975) was an Soviet Air Forces lieutenant general. Ljleppan (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks, do you think you could email me the text or pdf of the entry instead since there's clearly too much information to summarize? Kges1901 (talk) 20:05, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

  Check your email in a bit Ljleppan (talk) 20:41, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

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Whatever

I don't give crap about your editing. Why start with me? Adamdaley (talk) 06:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry what? Ljleppan (talk) 06:45, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

• Take this article: Idwal H. Edwards - Whats wrong with it? I'll allow you to view it before the change. Adamdaley (talk) 06:54, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

  I have no idea what point you are trying to make here, could you maybe try some additional context? Ljleppan (talk) 06:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

You failed at pointing out the WP:MILHIST attributes are all over the place. This is why I do the "pointless" edits, cause nobody else is going through them and picking up miss-aligned attributes. Maybe if people just asked, maybe I'll explain my editing. Adamdaley (talk) 07:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I think it's best I'll just remind you of WP:STYLERET and that enforcing optional style in a bot-like fashion without prior consensus, is never acceptable and leave it at that. I will continue to look over any edits that come across my watchlist and revert where they are either incorrect, no-content formatting changes, or both (as was the case here). Ljleppan (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put the right attributes in. I'm sorry, but you've not contributed to WP:MILHIST attributes, hope one day you'll realise I'm not completely insane editing. I'd take a few hundred years in waiting for people to fumble their way over the keyboard to say "yes" or "no" on changes, when I'm taking charge on things that people like you don't or can't realise miss-aligned attributes that sometimes out-righteously crazy! Some are left or ignored for years, till I come along and look at it. Adamdaley (talk) 07:11, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

• Who made you the Wikipedia Police? I stay out of your editing, you stay out of mine. How long do you think it would take me if I went through 82,000 articles while consulting other people? Adamdaley (talk) 13:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• Why don't you just ask why I do this? I could explain it to you, but I guess you "own" those talkpages I edited, right? Adamdaley (talk) 13:33, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

  Of course I don't own the talk pages. Given how hostile your response is, and how this problem continues to persist despite multiple other editors over more than a year asking you to cease on your −talk page, I'm extremely close to taking this to ANI for outside review. Ljleppan ([[User ee) 15:27, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• My edits from that particular period is different from now. As I said if you only come and asked I'd explain why I do this. You got crap wrong this time. You think you're high and mighty that you "contribute" to articles. That for me isn't possible yet I do my own little thing to avoid contributing. I'm gonna official go since you do not clearly like me and things could have been different. Adamdaley (talk) 16:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

• I checked when it was. It's not over a year ago. So you're not completely right. Adamdaley (talk) 06:08, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  I don't know why you keep coming back to my talk page, but here's a link to someone wondering about your disruptive editing behavior over a year ago: User_talk:Adamdaley/Archives/2020/December#Are_you_running_AWB? Ljleppan (talk) 07:20, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

• That's completely different to that of late last year. I honestly, replied that I wasn't doing an "Automatic or running a bot" editing. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to update the attributes of WP:MILHIST, its a quick read and edit. Adamdaley (talk) 07:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  Here's another example of people asking you to stop this exact behavior of zero-effect source reformatting from December 2020. Ljleppan (talk) 07:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Then I ask you this, if you want to update attributes to WP:MILHIST then you do it, you can take it off my hands and continue. There are multiple ways of doing a WikiProject? Why have multi ways of achieving the same goal to update the WikiProject? If its such an issue, then there should only be one way. Not multiple ways. It would get this sh!t off talkpages if there was only one way to do things. Adamdaley (talk) 07:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

All anyone is asking of you is to cease pointless formatting changes that have zero effect on the page, that make it extremely difficult to parse your edits to identify whether you made a mistake, and flood watchlists. Nobody is objecting to you making material changes to the banners. Given that you vehemently deny using any automation, not doing those formatting changes should make your job easier for you, if anything. Ljleppan (talk) 07:41, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

• I tend to not to use a bot. Bots are only good part of the time. I'd rather use my brain and typing skills to keep my brain active and on something that I can contribute to when I choose to do them. You've never seen me complain that things should be done a certain way or what a Bot. I come to Wikipedia to do something that interests me instead of being bored sh!tless at home and not doing anything with my day. Adamdaley (talk) 07:45, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  You really don't have anything better to do? This isn't the way to go! I have good intentions and I don't what to be bored sh!tless at home. You have to take into consideration my life, instead forcing someone to edit like you want things to be done. Adamdaley (talk) 10:05, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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WP:RATER

Hey, Ljleppan! I didn't even know this existed. Are you familiar enough with it to tell me whether it's something that could be used by someone to make helpful changes while being prevented from making unhelpful ones? Valereee (talk) 12:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Rater works fine most of the time, but can be a bit tricky about some of the formatting on occasion, especially on pages that follow some less-than-common method of formatting. I usually check the diff before saving just in case, and if it looks horrible in relation to the change I'm making (e.g. it wants to reformat five banners completely when I just bumped one from Start-class to C-class) I'll just edit manually instead out of abundance of caution. There might be some way of configuring it to be slightly less opinionated, but the problematic pages have been so rare in my own use that I haven't had a pressing need to delve into the options. Ljleppan (talk) 13:00, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

So it would be something I could, as part of a t-ban on manually editing talk page headers, allow the use of so that the editor can still make helpful changes but not make the kinds of not-visible-on-the-page-and-cause-impenetrable-diffs changes that have gotten them first a monthlong block and now an indef for disruptive editing? The main concern would be that occasionally they might come across a page where RATER's result might tempt them to edit manually? Valereee (talk) 13:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't really feel comfortable coming down on either side of the fence on that, given my still relatively limited experience with Rater. Ljleppan (talk) 14:13, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks anyway! Valereee (talk) 17:17, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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370th Fighter Group

Would you be willing to add WP:MILHIST to the following page as there is no talkpage nor a WP:MILHIST banner or WP:Aviation or WP:United States banner for 370th Fighter Group. The following can be added: {{WikiProject Military history |class= |Aviation=yes |US=yes |WWII=yes {{WikiProject Aviation|class= {{WikiProject United States |USMIL=yes including a WikiProjectBannerShell|1= Adamdaley (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Done! I threw in an assessment as well, but I'm not super well versed with aviation stuff, so I understand completely if you want to post it at WP:MHA for a second set of eyes. On a personal note, it's good to hear you could work something out with Cullen and Valeree, and wish you all the best in the future. Ljleppan (talk) 09:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you

Greetings!

Thank you so much for your excellent work in expanding Elli Saurio which has greatly improved the article. The only thing I want to request you is that shall we change the date format in the infobox as in the lead section. Thirukannan (talk) 02:11, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Done, Sorry for missing that. And good job you as well, that article was the first I'd heard of a rather interesting person :) Ljleppan (talk) 06:14, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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Well spoken

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Just wanted to say that I thought your reasoning in this edit was particularly clear and well justified! Nosebagbear (talk) 23:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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Your Teahouse question

It has been over a year but I just saw this question in the archives with no response and was wondering if you found a solution to the problem.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: if I recall correctly, a move discussion decided to follow WP:COMMONNAME for that specific article. Ljleppan (talk) 12:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't know whether I should make a note of that with the question or just leave it.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:22, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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Winter War Finnish official history

Does Talvisodan Historia cover the fighting of JR 62 at Manikkala in the final week of the Winter War? I'd like to add a more detailed Finnish perspective on actions mentioned in the 13th Light Tank Brigade article currently at A-class review, and Kilin and Raunio don't have much detail on actions in that sector. Thanks, Kges1901 (talk) 14:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

@Kges1901 I can check, but it'll be about a week as I'm currently traveling. Ljleppan (talk) 15:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

• No worries, would appreciate it either way. It seems that most coverage of the last week of the Winter War is focused on the fight for Viipuri/Vyborg itself, without much attention to the eastern flank. Kges1901 (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Kges1901: There's a reasonable amount of stuff about JR62 (and 28th Division, it's parent formation) in Talvisodan Historia 2. I'll write up my notes up into something coherent hopefully tomorrow. Ljleppan (talk) 11:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks. Particularly interested in what the history says about Soviet tank operations in the area. Kges1901 (talk) 11:36, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Kges1901: I just realized I completely forgot about this; would my notes about this be still helpful? Ljleppan (talk) 11:02, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

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White Guard Affair

Hi. If u let me, will be pleased to me for developing this nice Article you created. I can blue some red subject. Best. —Patricia (Talk) 20:04, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Ignore the above message. I should not have sent it, I mistakenly thought that if I treated you in good faith, I would get a reasonable answer.—Patricia (Talk) 11:24, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

@Patricia Mannerheim: as noted on the top of this page, I'm currently rather busy with non-wikipedia related stuff and have very little time to contribute to the project. I do not own White Guard Affair or any other article for that matter, so asking whether I'll let you do something is neither here nor there. Ljleppan (talk) 11:44, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Reliability of SailboatData and Sailboat.Guide

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@Darth Mike: thanks for the courtesy ping. I'm currently rather swamped with work, but I'll try to find a moment during the weekend to contribute. Ljleppan (talk) 15:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

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Continuation War

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