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Greeting, faerie!
Stumbled here via the ITN South Sudan article, just in case you want to know.
Anyway, I see you're a Wiki Fairy, and wondered if you'd like to wave your magic wand over an article I just created: San Vito (Costa Rica). If that's too much to ask in your state of semi-retirement, I'll completely understand. I'll watch here.
Editing "top" of article
Hello. How do you edit the "top" of an article, such as the intro only, as you have done in this edit? Much thanks. Pristino (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
2014 in LGBT rights
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Please consider Dispute resolution if you are unable to win consensus on the article's talk page. I think you should stick with the talk page and stop reverting. What are you going to accomplish by reverting over and over? Where does that end? Other editors have discussed this and they agree the NFL event should be included here, and your defintion of "list of rights" is not what this article is supposed to be. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 03:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
October 2014
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2014 in LGBT rights. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Besides me, TWO more editors have come along and told you that "2014 in LGBT rights" is not the same as "a list of rights". Two others, besides me, have told you that this list, and all the other similar lists, are events IN LGBT rights. "In" means "related to". Pertaining to. Connected with. Not simply a list of rights. Wikipedia operates by consensus and the consensus is against you. This is simple English. You need to seek dispute resolution so more editors can explain basic English to you. I'm sorry but you don't understand the title or the intro of this article. Seek more editors. They will help you understand. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 03:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
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Partition of British India
I started a talk page discussion on the topic. Your input will be welcome. Abecedare (talk) 20:40, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hono(u)rary
The thing I'd ask you to take notice of is that the article about honorary Canadian citizenship is located at the "honorary" spelling, whereas the honourary Canadian citizenship spelling is a redlink. You're certainly free to propose that we move the article to the other spelling on ENGVAR grounds, but in the meantime it needs to link to the spelling that actually links to the intended article rather than the one that just links nowhere. Bearcat (talk) 01:32, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- To be honest, while it's true that the base form of the word is spelled "honour" rather than "honor" in Canadian English, it's not actually true that "honourary" is preferred over "honorary". This reference actually confirms that both forms are accepted in Canadian English — actually, if you wanted to get really technical about it, "honorary" is the only correct form in any dialect of English (even British!) but a lot of people just let "honourary" slide because the u is present in the base word. (We also spell them honorific and honorarium, not honourific or honourarium.) So it's not actually an ENGVAR issue at all, because the existing title isn't actually wrong even in Canadian English. Bearcat (talk) 03:49, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
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Yeah baby!
Just made a brief update. I don't think it requires a substantial change to the lede as the rhetoric is currently far less intense than it was in 2010 or early 2013. It's not been in the news much, but according to datastream, China actually spent $100Bn of its reserves these last 3 months, effectively cooperating with the downwards pressure Japanease and Euro authorities are putting on their own currencies. US has been increasing its exports despite the $ appreciation , and it seems unlikely it will push back much at Euro/Japan given the Russia situation. So I'll leave any further rewriting to you for now.
My wiki times mostly going on researching a rewrite to Technological unemployment. Rather challenging and once Im done I'll give you a ping, as if you have the time some attention from someone with your global perspective would be much appreciated. Great to see you're still around, and hope all is going well for you. FeydHuxtable (talk) 12:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
I saw that you added some SEA countries. You know there is a section for SEA, right? Or did you mean to put those countries in a different section? Thanks, I was just wondering. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 10:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Oops, I guess that I misread it. My bad. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 21:52, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
References
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I tried to explain the meaning of the text to you in the edit summaries, but in case you're not reading them, the "then-president" refers to the fact that he was president at the time of the constitutional changes in 2000 - it is not in any way related to his current status as president (as far as I am aware, he still is). Hope this clarifies. Cheers, Number 57 19:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Re:BTW
Hello Lihaas, and thank you for your message. I was actually planning on waiting until things had cooled down to reach out to you, so this is a good sign that we both want to put a stop to this.
What I was going to say is that I suggest we reach agreement on certain things with regards to election articles. I really appreciate your additions to election articles - not many other people edit election articles for the smaller countries, so any additional content is more than welcome.
Many of our disagreements are about relatively trivial things, particularly headings, and this is something I would really like to stop arguing about. I now work almost exclusively on election articles these days, and having created most of the "missing" articles, one of my main goals at the moment is to try and get some consistency across all of them. For other WikiProjects I am part of (e.g. the football one), there is a clear Manual of Style for different types of articles (e.g. clubs, players etc). However, possibly due to the low number of people editing election articles (and some ownership problems by editors who only edit articles on their own country's election), there has never been something similar for election articles.
Some time ago I drafted a proposed manual of style for election articles, based on what I saw was the general layout of longer articles (I usually create very basic articles with only the results and sometimes the electoral system). I think the first thing to note about this list of headings is that it is not my work - I came relatively late to the election sphere (a couple of years after I started editing). By this time, the style was already in place, so I merely adopted what was already there. The only thing that I think might have been my idea was the "Conduct" heading - I had seen various ways of putting this (Election Observers, Observers, Voting issues etc), but as I pointed out in an earlier comment on your talk page, this does seem to be the most appropriate catch-all term for a heading.
Perhaps as a start, we can agree on this list of heading for election articles - that would take away one of our main areas of disagreement and hopefully allow us to interact more positively. Number 57 17:30, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- OK, to go through your suggestions one-by-one:
- Formation of new parties could be a subsection within "Background" or "Campaign". Which do you think would be better?
- I don't think "Election day" is an appropriate title "Conduct" can refer to events leading up to the election (such as harassment, violence etc), "Results" may not be available until weeks later in extreme cases, and "Reactions" are generally days or weeks afterwards.
- If the conduct section is quite large, we could have a subsection on monitoring specifically referring to international monitors.
- I agree that "Reactions" should be in there, but I think should be a separate top-level heading – not all reactions are about the results - some are about the conduct and/or violence.
- Aftermath should include government formation - it could be a sub-heading if the section is big.
- I also agree about harmonising titles, specifically "legislative" and "parliamentary" (the use of "general" elections are a bit different - see below). Personally I have a preference for parliamentary – what about you? I would say:
- "General elections" refers to:
- Elections that combine parliamentary and presidential elections, e.g. Mozambican general election, 2014
- Parliamentary elections in constitutional monarchies (i.e. where there are no presidential elections), e.g. Swedish general election, 2014
- "Parliamentary elections" refers to parliamentary elections in countries with a president, e.g. Bulgarian parliamentary election, 2014
- "General elections" refers to:
- By-and-large I don't have a great interest in sub-national elections (although I have been cleaning up some Indian ones due to incorrect article titles and creating the election year templates (e.g. {{Punjab (India) elections}}). I also recently did Republika Srpska general election, 2014. Number 57 20:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- One-by-one
- "Results" has to be a top-level section heading, and it always has been in election articles – you can see in American or British election articles (which I don't edit) that other editors include it as a top-level heading.
- I still don't think we need a section on "Election day" – the whole article is really about the day of the election. Plus MOS:HEADINGS states "Headings should not refer redundantly to the subject of the article", so I think that rules out any heading with "Election" built into it.
- Reactions is also mostly (but not always) left as a top-level heading by other editors (see e.g. Russian legislative election, 2011). As I said, reactions are not always about the results - sometimes they can be to pre-election events (think Zimbabwe here).
- For sub-national elections, in some cases "provincial" or "state" are used, and it also seems to be relatively common to use the name of the body being elected (e.g. Scottish Parliament election, 2011; Delhi Legislative Assembly election, 2013). I think this makes sense – we should probably seek to avoid using "legislative" or "parliamentary" for sub-national elections where possible (unless of course that is the WP:COMMONNAME).
- I largely avoid Campaign section anyway, so you're more than welcome to fill it out. The only thing I tend to do in those sections is correct errors, format references etc. Number 57 20:40, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- One-by-one
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On Abdul Hamid (soldier) and Sandeep Unnikrishnan, while removing POV language, you also removed the official citations as released by the government of india.
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