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Battle of Triangle Hill

Have you considered submitting this for GA review? It might help to iron out some issues on the way to FA. Cheers Socrates2008 (Talk) 10:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

article Triangle Hill

Per this statement I found on the Chinese sources:

• 所以战斗开始后被称为597.9和537.7高地战斗。这两个高地后面的山洼里有个才十几户人家的小村庄，叫上甘岭。

Rough translation: In the valley behind Triangle Hill and Sniper Ridge, there is a hamlet with 10 families that is called Shangganling.

So Shangganling is not Triangle Hill, it is a hamlet that is behind the Triangle Hill.

I took the liberty to move the page to the name Shanganling.

Jim101 (talk) 05:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, as you wish. May be you can check if there is any corresponding Korean text. I cannot type Korean until I installed the corresponding scim component. --Tomchiukc (talk) 06:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Urumqi riots -- images

There's a new idiot here, I would appreciate your input if you have time. Thanks, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 21:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Ürümqi Barn"star"
		Thanks for all your work maintaining the article July 2009 Ürümqi riots during its time on the main page. This has been a difficult and thankless task, working at a frenetic pace for 4 days straight so far (I, for one, have been getting very little sleep), and it's only been thanks to coordinated efforts and discussion from numerous editors that the article has been kept as neutral and informative as possible. This is the most collaboration I've done, with the largest number of editors at once, since I have joined Wikipedia, and I think the results are showing; while it's not perfect, when my friends and family ask me about what's going on in Urumqi, I have been more comfortable recommending this article than any other source. The work is far from over, but now that this article is off the main page I think it's finally time to thank the editors Seb az86556, Colipon, Jim101, Ohconfucius, Benlisquare, Simonm223, and Jinhuili for all their contributions; while we had disagreements, I think each of these editors has been particularly active and has made real efforts to improve the article.rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 20:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Re this edit: just for clarification, I believe there were protests on 7 July (most of the sources coming out then talk about women starting to protest the arrests of their husbands/sons/brothers/fathers, and a lot of the photos that have been published are from this time). That being said, the sources talking about the "Han mobs" seem to imply they were going after Uyghurs in general, not just trying to clash with protesters, so your removal was a good idea; just wanted to clarify the 'protest' thing in case it comes up again. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Dang and blast! Overnight, you leapfrogged me in the edit count. I have some catching up to do now... ;-) Ohconfucius (talk) 04:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh I did? Well then I suggest you to start some copy editings...mine is horrible. Jim101 (talk) 04:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Translation request

Thank you very much for your prompt response. I have one question. There is another article I found that seems to have more translation. It is located here. It includes a translated passage that reads The production of material goods is continually decreasing; while the amount of fictitious capital is increasing. The physical economy and the fictitious monetary expansion are placed on two curves, one heading upward and one heading downward. As the growth in the fictitious element more and more exceeds the physical production, then the calamity strikes. Could you check this, and other material in this longer article, against the Chinese original? Thanks very much for your efforts. --Coleacanth (talk) 21:48, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Jim, but it is specifically the jargon about curves and models that I wanted to know about. LaRouche has a model called the "triple curve" diagram that one editor is trying to delete because he says it's not notable. I would like to use the China Youth Daily as a source for its notability, if you can confirm the curves part. --Coleacanth (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Jim. --Coleacanth (talk) 00:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Jim, can you tell if there is an author for this piece or is it anonymous?   Will Beback  talk  06:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.   Will Beback  talk  07:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Jim, would you mind if I copy your translation to a subpage of the LaRouche talk page so that it is readily accessible?   Will Beback  talk  22:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Great. I copied it here: Talk:Views of Lyndon LaRouche/China Youth Daily and credited the translation to you. One more thing, hopefully the last. The title is 现行的世界金融体系已经无可救药. Google tranlates it as "The current world financial system has been hopelessly" and the LaRouche PAC translates it as "The Present International Financial System Cannot Be Saved." How would you translate it?   Will Beback  talk  22:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll paste that in.   Will Beback  talk  22:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Jim. I can see that your services are very much in demand. May I add a request of my own? I'd like to ask you to Google this article to see what other publications in China carried the same article. I would have no idea how to do this. I would like to know roughly how many publications, either print or online, carried the article, and what sort of publications they were, i.e. were they all Communist Party publications, or did a wider variety feature the article? Many thanks, Leatherstocking (talk) 06:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

That's easy. You can search for non-latin scripts just as easily as in English. [1] If you then follow the "Translate this page" link you can see whether it's the same article.   Will Beback  talk  06:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your work, Jim. Actually, I was asking Jim's opinion about the nature of the many publications that carry the article. It looks like many of them, from their English names, are business or finance journals that would be less directly under the control of the ruling party. --Leatherstocking (talk) 15:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

To all the big editors of July 2009 Ürümqi riots: invitation for comment

I'm thinking the article is probably ready now to get a nice copyedit and go in for GAN, per the plan I laid out in [[Talk:July 2009 Ürümqi riots/Archive3#Time to remove {current}?]], as the article has become stable. I've started going through a copyediting and cleanup sweep, focusing mainly on rewording things now that we have a couple months' perspective (for example, listing only the final "official" casualty count, rather than all the temporary numbers that were being published right and left while the news was still unfolding), and am leaving my comments/concerns at Talk:July 2009 Ürümqi riots#Editing notes. If you have any time, I would welcome your input there (particularly on the section about videos within the External links, which has left me scratching my head). rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 04:53, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

CJ-10 cruise missile

Created CJ-10 cruise missile stub, requires expansion. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 05:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Chosin

Much respect on that article, damn good job. I always thought it was a shame that that page was so short.

--PDTantisocial (talk) 20:14, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

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Not One Less

Thanks for catching that typo! By the way, feel free to double-check my translations of the Chinese titles if you want, since it's not my native language. Best, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 16:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

When one ant cannot push the stone...

Does this look NPOV to you? -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 07:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

@benlisquare, that looks NPOV because it cited multiple reference from reliable sources. It is also interesting you acted so quickly to ask your friends to help you to removed referenced material from the LEDE. Da Vynci (talk) 07:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I am the one who added the references from 1)Associated Press; 2) ABC News (Australia) and 3) BBC news, all stating the film is a propaganda film, other propaganda film such as The Eternal Jew also include the words "propaganda film" of that in the LEDE. We could certainly have a "criticism section", but creating such section is not a valid reason to remove the word "propaganda film" from the LEDE. Da Vynci (talk) 07:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

For all your Korean War work....

Your work on Battle of Unsan Battle of Chosin Reservoir, and various other Korean War topics has been outstanding. Thank you for all your hard work! Cerebellum (talk) 02:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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		For truly outstanding work on articles related to the Korean War. Cerebellum (talk) 02:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Onjong DYK

Thanks for the DYK, and for improving that article so much. Cerebellum (talk) 04:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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OT: Yay for communism!

• AAP, 21 Nov 2009, Cuba offers free penis implants, Yahoo!7 News

Regards, -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 13:24, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Uhm...wow. Jim101 (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Kunuri

I have been trying in my modest and inexperienced way to make the role Turkish Brigade played in Korean War better known in Wikipedia. I appreciate your recent picture in the article. I have more but not sure how I can load them and if it would be ok in the first place. I have stalkers attacking most of my edits. In any case, your "Battle of Ch'ongch'on River Map" is an excellent one that shows clearly the magnitude of the trouble Turkish Brigade was in. Please load it up there or allow me.

These series of actions during November of that year is refered to as "Battle of Kunuri". (I also created a little stub for Kunuri) It does not seem to be a universal name. Is it considered a part of the larger theater of Battle of Ch'ongch'on? Maybe it is more significant in Turkish military history becasue they played a major role and suffered much there. Is it worth an article of it own? Stay well.--Murat (talk) 01:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, material related to the actions of the Turkish Brigade is very scarce, in fact, this article is very much US focused and other details are always in the background. Language was a serious problem for the Turks then, and it got even a bigger problem in the battle. Kunuri was their first serious encounter but it was a disaster, almost wiped out to a man. Of course, the whole ROK army to their right had disintigrated, exposing this one brigade to a gigantic force, which they or UN did not appreciate at the time. There was no way they could resist the massive Chinese attack. 8th began to pull back, Turks were not informed on time and they were pretty much surrounded as the map shows. There was also very spotty leadership by Gen. Yazici's second. In another time, another place, he would have been court-martialed or worse, but no one wanted to lose face. Yazici took direct control after that. In any case, over the years I ran into large number of Korean vets in US, who remebered with wet eyes how their lives were spared becasue the Turks were covering their retreat. Bayonet charges became a fashion for a while also because of Turks I understand. I have access to original material and pictures, though not an expert editor, would like to use them in wikipedia and would like your help and mentorship. My question is if Kunuri Battle desreves and article of its own, since there is so much detail available (though not very organized, they are not great chronicleres)from Turkish sources.--Murat (talk) 15:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

You are right, there is no rush, I would rather have something that is accurate, verifiable, of good quality and objective. I will organize what I have and gather more material and share with you here. Thanks again.--Murat (talk) 16:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

This is a bit lengthy, but there is good detail. I am sure not all negaitve details are presented but still a good chronicle of the action in that area:

On 24th Nov 1950, the U.N. Forces launched their attack north from the line of contact with its center of mass in the 8th Army area with all Army (Ist and IXth U.S.Corps, Ist Turkish and 27th British Brigades),Xth U.S. Corps and Ist South Korean Corps. Since the weak enemy forces on the 8th Army front retreated hastily, the advance elements moved quickly forward 8-10 miles. This easy advance gave misleading impression that “the enemy is withdrawing to Manchuria and that peace was on hand. Only units of IInd South Korean Corps on the Armies right flank held its position. The attack continued on 25th Nov with Ist and IXth U.S. Corps advancing in the 8th Army area and II Korean Corps again remaining in its position. However, on 26th Nov attack initiated by Ist and IXth Corps were met with stiff resistance. While the attack was loosing its intensity, the IInd South Korean Corps on the U.N. Force’s right flank was suddenly struck a massive counter offensive by some 180.000 Chinese Troops in 18 divisions. In consequence, the shattered IInd South Korean Corps had to retreat to the east of Tokchon. The enemy forces continued their attack on the night of the 26th Nov. and forced the IInd South Korean Corps 40 Kilometers South, to the Taedong River. The enemy is believed to have used 8 Communist Chinese divisions to spearhead this attack. A holding attack in this area was launched the same night with about 6 divisions against the IXth Corps units. However, with the withdrawal of the IInd South Korean Corps, the right flanks of two U.S. Corps were exposed, making them highly vulnerable. The enemy, whose center of mass was believed to be here, was capable of enveloping the entire 8th Army. With this sudden change of events, this exposed flank had to be refused in order for the 8th Army to withdraw in an orderly manner. This duty was assigned to the Turkish Brigade, which was in the army reserve.

The Turkish Brigade (Bde), tasked with protection the right flank of the 9th Corps, which was threatened with enemy envelopment, and thus that of the 8th Army, was to advance along the Kunuri-Tokchon road and single handedly counter superior enemy forces which had repulsed the IInd South Korean Corps. On 27th Nov, these Communist Chinese forces had, as expected, initiated a fast encirclement and pursuit operation. And a substantial portion of its forces was directed towards Kunuri. The Turkish Bde had started marching from the opposite direction on the same road from Wawon to Tokchon. However, in the afternoon, it stopped and order from IXth Corps Command and returned to Wawon. The order had unfortunately been transmitted to the Bde Commander about 2 hours late. The main units of the Bde had deployed to Wawon area and started to deploy after necessary security precautions were taken. The Bde Commander was informed at around 0100 hours on the 28th Nov that the reconnaissance detachment who had been on rear guard support duty, was attacked by the enemy and destroyed.

28 November 1950-Wawon Battle:

The 10th infantry company commander was tasked with closing off the entrance to Choyangmyon. The company completed its deployment and disposition between 2100 and 2200 hours on 27 Nov. Shots fired by the ambushed Recce Detachment were herd by the company between 2400-0100 hours. The enemy attacked to 10th company at daybreak on 28 Nov by first hitting the security detachment in front of the company and later the company itself along its entire front. The platoons of 10th company completed its preparations while the security detachment of the company was fighting and was ready for combat. This company looked like a ship prepared to counter great waves caused by a hurricane. The enemy attack was initially met with intense fire. The enemy engaged by this heavy firepower, hastily withdrew and positioned itself behind a hill while partially spreading left and right, trying to encircle the company.

As the enemy spread northwest, first the 11th company and then the 9th company were committed. When the enemy seemed to be preparing to envelope this company’s left flank, the entire II nd Battalion was moved to this area and a battle group was formed under the command of Deputy Bde. Commander Col Celal Dora. The battle of Wawon continued until the evening of 28 Nov 1950 with first the II nd battalion’s and later all the Bde units’ commitment, one after the other. This was a battle which was conducted over extremely rugged terrain where friend and foe could not be distinguished easily, under temperatures of -20, -30 degrees C (-4 to 22 F), devoid of support from friendly forces, with communication cut of from higher headquarters, and before it was able to develop its combat power as much as necessary.

28-29 November 1950 – Sinnim-Ni Battle:

On the evening of 28 Nov, Turkish units started to withdraw to the area around Sinnim-ni Village was about 7 Km. to the west. The covering force was made up by the 1st company, which had not been heavily engaged during that day’s operations. The enemy realized that the Turkish units were withdrawing, although it was done under cover of darkness. And it followed the Bde very closely along a wide front with delaying operations conducted by the rear guard. The road was narrow and deployment was slow. Therefore marching column rear guards and the enemy were in close proximity with each other during this withdrawal.

The Ist battalion was tasked with defending the south of Sinnim-ni Village and the IInd battalion was tasked with defending the hills to its north. The other units were spread out all the way to Kaechon, about 3 Km to their rear. At about midnight, on 28/29 Nov, units that were mostly in the west of the Sinnim-ni Village came under sudden and intense machine gun, mortar and rocket fire. This surprised attack caused panic among the majority of the Bde personnel. This units started to retreat along the road in the dark. Meanwhile, the enemy captured some hills to the north of the road and cut off Ist and IInd battalions from each other. The hours following the Sinnim-ni surprise attack were the most critical for the Bde and Bde headquarters when the units were retreating. Bde headquarters, which was in a school building in Kaechon, started to receive the first negative reports.

The cannon and vehicles of the artillery battalion and the battalion train had congested the only road to Kaechon in double, triple and quadruple columns and were entwined with each other. Seeing the situation, the Bde Commander General Yazıcı directed the retreating columns to be halted, brought down from their vehicles and reorganized; and ordered contact be reestablished with Ist and IInd battalions. The situation was grave for the Bde Commander and his headquarters; 1/3 of the Bde infantry elements were dissolved. The artillery could not function. Contact was cut of with Ist and Iind battalions who seemed to have stayed in their positions. There was no contact with the U.S. IX Corps and no immediate help could be expected from it. What is more, conflicting reports kept coming in and the bad news had a demoralizing effect on personnel.

The Commander was face with a situation where he had to make a decision, which would affect both the brigades, U.S. IX Corps and the 8th Army. He could follow one of the following courses of action: he could either leave Ist and IInd battalions, which had been cut off in their rear, by themselves and withdraw further to establish a new defense line with what was left; or he could gather all the elements in Kaechon to save Ist and IInd battalions, by establishing a new defensive line on the hills to the right of the village and using every means available to establish contact with cut of units. At this critical moment, Gen Yazıcı did not lose his composure and decided to contact defensive operations at the location where he was. As a result of this firm decision to resist and continue to defense, the uncontrolled flow of people was slowed down. The disorganized units were partially reorganized and a new defensive line was established.

While the Bde Commander was taking this precautions, IId battalion and 2nd company of Ist battalion were in a very difficult situation and were surrounded by superior forces, conducting breath taking combat all night and until noon the next day. In spite of the attacks launched by the enemy from the front and flanks, these units conducted exemplary, heroic operations, holding their positions. Particularly the 2nd company of the Ist battalion, which was located on hills and the valley immediately to the south of Simnin-ni, by conducting a bayonet assault against the enemy who was trying to encircle its flanks and rear, heroically held its position until noon of 29th November. When 2nd company’s ran out, ammunition captured from the enemy was used meanwhile, the IInd battalion, on hills extending to the Northeast of the village, continued to defend its position against the superior enemy’s continuous attacks.

On 29th Nov 1950, at around 10.00 hours, just before the counter offensive, an U.S. infantry battalion and a tank company tasked to cover the withdrawal of the U.S. 2nd division established contact with the units trying to reorganize and the Turkish Brigade trying to established a defense position around Kaechon. They positioned themselves on the northern hills. Upon arrival of the U.S. regiment, the Bde Commander informed the regiment commander of the situation and proposed that a counter offensive be conducted to save IInd battalion and 2nd company. The regiment commander refused this suggestion saying, “His duty was to cover the right flank of the division.” Then the Bde Commander saw that his northern flank was now secured and decided, “to conduct an attack” with the small amount of existing forces. The determination of the Bde Commander started paying off towards noon. The commander was able to establish contact with the units that were cut of through the counter offensive that was conducted. The enabled the cut of units to withdraw through areas, which were not open to enemy, fire.

The enemy pursuit the withdrawing forces closely and advances north and south of the Kaechon positions. They were met with fire from both Turkish and U.S. battalions in these positions. Meanwhile it was determined that a regimental size force continued its advance from behind the hills in spite of artillery and mortar fire. At around 1700, while the U.S. Ist battalion, which was defending the southern edge of the position, began to withdraw, the enemy started to envelope its northern flank. In this situation, the Bde, whose northern edge was open, decided to withdraw in order not to be encircled from both flanks. Again the withdrawal initiated under the cover of the rear guard.

As you have noticed, Turkish Brigade established contact with U.S. units for the first time since 27th Nov. This indicates that, the 8th Army was able to complete its withdrawal within the time, which had been gained. The Turkish Brigade gained a day in Wavon (27-28 Nov), another day in Sinnim-ni area and showed strong resistance to the superior Chinese 38th Corps at Sinnim-ni and Kaechon on 29 Nov, gaining a whole day in itself, although suffering substantial casualties consequently, it was able to accomplish the task it was given, enabling the 8th Army, main strength of the United Nation Forces, to withdraw and thus escape annihilation.

Battle of Kunu-Ri Gorge (29/30 November 1950)

To withdraw from Kaechon to Kunu-ri they had to pass through a gorge, the hills to the left and right of which were about to come under communist’s control. The enemy, who almost seemed to be walking side by side with the Bde, had halt the hills on the entrance to the gorge and in deep parts of it with small groups armed with machine guns, mortars and rocket launchers. All that could be done now was to attempt to force a way through the gorge. Meanwhile, in the brigade, there was no direction above company level. Combat was sustained at company; platoon and even squadron level with the initiative of lower ranking officers and NCOs. The greatest role in exerting available force in this gorge was played by small infantry units and light weapons. At times, individual bayonet fights were conducted where scenes of extraordinary heroism were displayed. The rear guard group, comprising Ist Turkish battalion and U.S. soldiers together resisted against repeated enemy attacks and did not give up hill number 107. With U.S.Army battalions and aircrafts holding the hills close to the exit of the gorge under fire. The Turkish and U.S.guards who had stayed behind and part of the brigade headquarters personnel passed through the gorge in groups and went to Kunu-ri.

The Bde Commander and his accompanying personnel had come out of the gorge with the rear guard and reached the first bivouac area on the southwest of Kunu-ri on the night of 30 Nov at around 0400-0430. As the situation was not suitable for the Bde to stay in the region, the Bde Commander and his personnel started to withdraw in direction of Pyongyang via Sunchon Gorge.

Struggle over Sunchon Gorge:

Turkish and U.S. units, which entered the gorge, were held under enemy fire from its sides and faced the prospect of being encircled and annihilated. Thus, they tried to move forward by forming small groups. An infantry platoon of the Turkish Bde was trying to move ahead, striving to help save U.S. 2nd Division Headquarters which was surrounded in the gorge. The Bde Commander reached Pyongyang on the evening of 30 Nov and started to place the Bde again under his control. On 2 December Turkish Bde and U.S. 2nd Division, which had suffered the greatest casualties, started deploying upon IX Corps orders towards Kaesong, north of Seul, in order to reorganize and complete its preparations for future operations. --Murat (talk) 00:50, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

The above came from :http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67557, it is also pretty much duplicated at: http://www.e-tarih.org/sayfa.php?sayfa=1987440.1980799.0.0.0.php&Kore%20sava%C5%9F%C4%B1, and http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-69339.html, and http://www.tayyareci.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=433&ARCHIVE=, which came from the Aussie source given below, also the Turkish on-line reference site: http://www.turkcebilgi.com/kunuri_sava%C5%9F%C4%B1/ansiklopedi, which itself references: http://www.tahirun.org/index.htm. Turksih War Veterans: http://www.muharipgaziler.org.tr/ (I have difficulty bringing this up occasionally, maybe a server issue)

Turkish War Veterans site has more details and it indicates that the Turkish Brigade encountered the same Chinese 38. Corps (not sure about this) and 150. Division at Kumyangjang-Ni, a few months later in January 1951, and this time took revenge of the Kunuri losses.--Murat (talk) 01:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

This also makes some mention (very little): http://www.2id.org/kunuri-history.htm. There is another nice summary at http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/TurkishBrigade.htm Also some nice pics here, the official site of Turkish Armed forces: http://www.tsk.tr/8_TARIHTEN_KESITLER/8_8_Turk_Tarihinde_Onemli_Gunler/kore_savasi/kore_savasi.htm, and http://www.tsk.tr/8_TARIHTEN_KESITLER/8_8_Turk_Tarihinde_Onemli_Gunler/Kumyangjang_ni_Zaferi/Kumyangjang_ni_Zaferi.htm--Murat (talk) 01:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

It needs a a nice map or two, and some pics.--Murat (talk) 21:07, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I will add more official references but the ones in Turkish Brigade are mostly respectable and official ones.--Murat (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I do not have a book or an official reference that details the action blow by blow as the reference book and material you have. No page numbers I can add here. Yet. I can only point at Turish Armed Forces and Veterans sites. This http://rokdrop.com/2008/03/14/heroes-of-the-korean-war-general-tahsin-yazici-part-5/ has some of the best details also. I really would like to see some of the great pics here in the article here and in Turkish Brigade.--Murat (talk) 05:44, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, this was nice work and very educational for me. Hope I can do more on this topic. Still think Kunuri Battle by itself may be worth a short article, as this is how it is most known by Turks and includes Wawon of course.--Murat (talk) 16:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Korean War

First of all, the bottom of the page of the battle of Pakchon clearly states that Chinese casualties were estimated to be 200 killed and another 200 wounded. The source for that information is listed on the page as: Coulthard-Clark 1998 p. 262.

In the Battle of Wawon, the reason I put in "Unknown, but heavy", is because during the Battle, General Tashin Yazici was quoted as saying: "Withdraw, why withdraw? We are killing lots of them". This was the subject of a Time Magazine article. Here is the direct link: [2]\

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DYK for Battle of Wawon

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Yes, Korea was the first "real" battle for the Turks since WWI. There were some siginficant military activities within Turkey's boarders in 20s and 30s to put down rebellions and insurgency, but they were not against regular armies. Meanwhile I have finally got direct access to a source that has very quantitative information. I will expand the article and the ones in the future related to the Brigade.--Murat (talk) 01:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Chosin Reservoir

Just to let you know, I've been doing some work on this article, mostly copy-editing, but that I think that the article is substantial enough to be submitted to Good Artcle Nominations. I'd like to continue working on the article to improve it, though I must admit you've done most of the substantial improvements on your own. I'm willing to do the GAN improvements since I have a lot of information about the battle avaliable to me, though I would always appreciate your continued work on the article. Well done! —Ed!^(talk) 22:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Battle of T. Hill

Congrat on such a job well done. GA is a great Milestone for the article. Congrat again. TheAsianGURU (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK question about Battle of Ch'ongch'on River

Hello! Your submission of Battle of Ch'ongch'on River at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Binksternet (talk) 09:41, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

LOL

exactly :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 06:19, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Ch'ongch'on River vs Chosin Reservoir

Thank you for asking me what I think. Personally, if it's for Chinese history, then I have to pick C'River. Because it's probably 1 of the most celebrated battles in the entire war by the PRC. MacArthur's "well known" statement has made him a laughing stock of the PLA (or I should say - the PVA). In fact, I think it was used as a propaganda story for many years to follow, there was even a song about it….(hm…let me look) There are plenty of Refs from Mainland China (with its POV, of course), which can come handy when you want to know that side of the story. Hudong & Baidu Baike also have articles about the battle. 1 2. TheAsianGURU (talk) 23:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Possibly of interest...

Xian H-6K may need a few checks. Cheers, -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 06:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Ch'ongch'on River

On December 31, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Battle of Ch'ongch'on River, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

JamieS93 19:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I am astounded that somebody could have created such an article since Christmas Day!! Very well done! I think with a bit of work it could become an FA. Keep it in mind!! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I recently found a historical records

http://www.koreanhistory.or.kr/dirservice/total/listDirDetailSearch.jsp?pSearchType=&pSearchTotalWord=&pURL=&pSearchMainClassID=&pSearchSubClassID=&pOrderByType=&pOrderByName=&pMainClassName=%EC%97%B0%EA%B5%AC%EC%9E%90%EB%A3%8C&pSubClassName=%EC%A0%84%EC%9F%81%2F%EC%A0%84%ED%88%AC%EC%A0%95%EB%B3%B4&pSub2ClassName=6.25&pMainClassID=KH.07.00.000&pSubClassID=KH.07.03.000&pListDisp=2&pClassID=KH.07.03.001&pLevel=&pLarDiv=KH.07.00.000&pMidDiv=KH.07.00.000&pPageLine=&pSetID=&pTotalCount=&pUnit=&pIsPartOf=&pMainTitle=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthesaurus.history.go.kr&method=SearchSrv&code=UTF-8&return=%2Fthesaurus%2FlistMainThesaurusSearch.jsp&param=&pSearchWord=

has almost every battle occured during the Korean War (it is in Korean)

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Zeng Siyu

Hi mate. I notice you changed the Chinese commander in the infobox for Battle of Maryang San from Peng Dehuai to Zeng Siyu. Who was Zeng Siyu? Was he the divisional or corps commander?

Dehuai was obviously the overall commander of the People's Volunteer Army but I haven't heard of Zeng Siyu - perhaps we could add them both to the infobox and include Zeng Siyu in the text aswell?

Cheers. Anotherclown (talk) 02:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi again Jim. Thanks very much for the work you have done so far on Battle of Maryang San, it certainly is a lot better now with the Chinese sources you have added. I hope you don't think I was being rude before re the commanders... I'm more than happy with the ones you have added. Cheers again. Anotherclown (talk) 08:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

翻译

欢迎你有空翻译一下中文百科Template:朝鲜战争‎，谢谢！

另外我是中文百科的Sinai[3]，我英文根本不行，你能否向以下这些百科（你懂那种语言的）：

无法自动确认您拥有以下站点中账户“Sinai”的所有权；它们可能使用了与您的主账户相异的密码：

   * ar.wikipedia.org
   * de.wikipedia.org
   * en.wikipedia.org
   * es.wikipedia.org
   * es.wikiquote.org
   * fa.wikipedia.org
   * it.wikipedia.org
   * no.wikipedia.org
   * th.wikipedia.org

的行政权限的管理员，申请整合我的帐号（其它的百科语言版本已经都整合了），以上这些都是长期停用５以下的编辑数字可以整合的。如何可以的话真的非常感谢－－113.112.205.19 (talk) 19:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

可能有，官方战史的书。如果有电子书的话你又感兴趣我发给你。

另你熟悉的话可以看看有没有那些是战役下的战斗关系　是的话可以如中文Template:Navbox Second Sino-Japanese War一样用括号括起来 －－113.112.171.159 (talk) 21:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

刚才没看你的翻译，我有空加志愿军的战役战斗后再跟你说，谢谢。－－113.112.167.230 (talk) 21:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

你说的我有全套，即《中国人民解放军全史》军事历史研究部 编，军事科学出版社，2000年，ISBN 7-80137-315-4。

《中国人民志愿军战史》国防大学战史编写组，这个要不要，这个我得他日找一下有没有（非简写版）。－－113.112.141.88 (talk) 21:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

应该说是缩水版，文字只有Ｎ分之一，我还是搞好再告诉你，说不定得去图书馆。谢谢你。－－113.112.150.12 (talk) 21:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

伤心岭和上甘岭有关联吗　有你再改－－113.112.150.12 (talk) 21:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

[4]全套的可能你有了--113.112.150.12 (talk) 21:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

不客气　是扫描版的，军事科学院的好，真实的反映四野歼敌数第一和红四方面军红军时期歼敌第一，其他书没这么感，还瞎算数字。－－113.112.143.81 (talk) 04:18, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

求教你一件事，我想通删掉中文百科艺人代言的商业广告列表，这些广告列表，不知在[5]和[6]中有无相关政策支持（最贴切），还是英文wiki允许这种状况？－－113.112.144.161 (talk) 20:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

如果有不知你有空能否翻译一下以便增加为中文百科的指引，盼回，关于广告的问题你在这回复就行了，谢谢。－－113.112.177.82 (talk) 20:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

广告问题你不用在那回复，不能翻译没关系，主要问题是前面说的，盼。－－113.114.202.233 (talk) 21:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

不，我的意思是这个“求教你一件事，我想通删掉中文百科艺人代言的商业广告列表，这些广告列表，不知在[5]和[6]中有无相关政策支持（最贴切），还是英文 wiki允许这种状况？－－113.112.144.161 (talk) 20:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC)”－－113.114.202.233 (talk) 21:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

你就在英文百科这里回复我就行了，这个广告问题，谢谢！－－113.114.202.233 (talk) 21:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)