Jackross

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ukexpat (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

John Frederick France

Thanks for the message. Yes you did it right. Cut and paste moves are usually a bad idea but as you were the only editor of the page it was OK in this case. The article needs some work, particularly footnotes -- see WP:CITE. – ukexpat (talk) 15:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

You are doing just fine - in fact you have caught on a lot faster than many new editors. Wikiformatting can be very daunting for a new user, so trial and error is really the only way to learn. The good thing is that if you mess up, it can always be undone! A couple of suggestions: Now that the article is in mainspace, you should probably blank it from your user page to avoid confusion. When you want to create your other articles, it's probably best to to so in a user sandbox or other user subpage so that you can work on them over time with little fear of deletion. I am happy to help you create those subpages when you need them. Enjoy! – ukexpat (talk) 15:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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To blank your user page, just edit the page, delete the content and save the page. To create a subpage/sandbox, the easiest way is to create a redlink on you user page, such as [[User:Jackross/sandbox]], which renders as User:Jackross/sandbox. Click on the redlink which will take to to an edit page, type something, for example, add the {{user sandbox}} template, and save the page. Voilà, subpage created. You can replace Sandbox with any other name, such as the name of the draft article. Let me know if you need more help or want me to create the subpage for you. – ukexpat (talk) 16:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Help Required

{{helpme}}

I'm reasonably new to this and have never moved an article onto the 'live' wikipedia pages. I've got a 'finished' article on my user page - can I just move it onto wikipedia using the move function in the drop down arrow? Or does someone have to give me the go ahead?

Jackross (talk) 16:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

You could move it, but it is best to check, and asking with a 'helpme' like this is just fine.

My main concern is that not all of it is referenced, so I think perhaps some is what we'd call original research, which is not permitted - for example, bills have survived but doubtless there are many more where the records no longer exist. Also there are strong assertions without a clear reference, e.g. William France’s business was in a poor financial state at the time of his death and it had not been possible to pay the legacies made in his will

Really, everything needs a reliable source; anything without one can be removed by any editor; it's all about verifiability.

Therefore, I'd recommend you check through the article, and try to ensure all the facts are clearly referenced, before making it a live article. Be careful to maintain a neutral point of view.

For a further review, you could try requests for feedback, or - the best advice of all, I think - Talk to us live, with this.  Chzz  ►  16:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks CHZZ

Hi CHZZ Thanks for your guidance, I will try to add more 'meat' to the references and be more specific.

My only problem is that the France family are well known in the furniture trade but a lot of the detail is published only in the Furniture History Society article mentioned in the acknowledgement. There are still some misnomers about relationships in the family which need to be corrected ie. William Jnr is William Snr's nephew NOT his son as is widely believed. This has only come about with extensive genealogical research. How do we get these facts out there if they're not already published. Chicken & Egg?

Many of the facts have come to light after extensive research at the Nat Archives (Lord Chancellors Bill Books) and other Archives around the country. Most of the corroboration is in the Geoffrey Castle FHS article which has been published. Will this be enough? I will start amending what I think is possible conjecture and come back to you for approval.

Jackross (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

William France Snr

Hi CHZZ It appears you've moved my article into the live version. Many Thanks I will go in and edit it to improve the references and text. Let me know if it's ok.

Jackross (talk) 10:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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 Chzz  ►  18:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I've replied again. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  19:11, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi. It certainly looks better. I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'sign it off' - it looks fine to me; of course, all articles can be improved. I made a couple of small edits; I think there's some duplication with 'References' and 'Sources' that could do with fixing - all the info should probably be in references, as numbered footnotes. And it's tagged as an orphan, because there is only one article linking to it.

But generally, sure, it looks fine. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Re. search;

You didn't do anything wrong. The search suggestions are not instantly updated; it could be several hours before it appears there. If you type the full name in the wiki search box, it will work. And the 'predictive' name will appear after some time – very likely within 24 hours.

Please consider submitting the new article to Did You Know...; if accepted, it would then appear on the main page of Wikipedia for a short time. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

lower case required here

Hello.

As you'll see if you look at WP:MOS, this edit was a mistake. Conventions clearly require lower case here. I've moved it back. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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