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TPA revoke

Hi, could you revoke the TPA for the Can the tank end account? Thank you. — AP 499D25 (talk) 09:25, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I was doing that while you posted this message. JBW (talk) 09:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC) 🙂

Hehe — AP 499D25 (talk) 09:36, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Frank Ryan (Irish republican)

Hi in order to prevent an edit war I hope you can take a look at the above page. 2A00:23C7:CD84:7301:5066:7018:3E2D:4B77 has inserted the Nazi flag multiple times and now includes Nazi Germany on the page under Allegiance (never includes a Edit Summary). I've asked several times to discuss this on the Talk page with no response. The page points out several times that Ryans allegiance was only to Ireland. I see this person has been blocked from several pages. Since no communication is possible with 2A00:23C7:CD84:7301:5066:7018:3E2D:4B77 and these incorrect assertions occur daily, I hope this user can be blocked from Frank Ryan (Irish republican). Thanks, Palisades1 (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Humphrey Goldenbollocks

Hi! I see you ultimately deleted the page I created and I hoped to discuss that deletion further here. I showed that the page was not a hoax and resubmitted it and was then told that it was not notable enough. Following the notability guidelines of "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." I have three academic references to the figure which I will add here since there is no longer a talk page. These are in addition to the three academic sources I had listed on the talk page.

Matýsková, Bc Jitka. "Origin of English and Czech Surnames: Similarities and Differences."

Kay, Helen. The 1066 Norman Bruisers: How European Thugs Became English Gentry. Pen and Sword History, 2020.

Vincent, Nicholas. A Brief History of Britain 1066-1485. Hachette UK, 2011.

All three use Humphrey to discuss the intricacies and complexities of medieval naming conventions, particularly in Anglo-Norman England where so many cultures intermingled.

I do not intend to simply complain, I bring this all up because I believe this shows that the page meets the notability criteria and should be allowed to exist.Thanks for reading this far and I look forward to your response.Xismyhero (talk) 01:18, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Actually, it was Draft:Humphrey Goldenbollocks, and it was not deleted for lack of notability but per WP:G3 (vandalism). Please WP:SIGN your posts to Talk pages.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me on that! I had, I thought, already resolved the vandalism/hoax issue the first time around when I contested it's Speedy Deletion. The initial moderator who marked it for SD said they thought it was an attempt at humor, which it wasn't. As I've cited here and on the talk page, he was a real figure; a lord recognized in the Domesday book and discussed elsewhere. Xismyhero (talk) 01:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Would the article be more acceptable if it's titled in the original Latin? As you can see on the folio here, the name is recorded as "Hunfridus aurei testiculi". Xismyhero (talk) 01:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

@Xismyhero: (and also Bbb23 if you are interested) one of the reasons that I was confident that it was vandalism was that "Goldenbollocks" is clearly not 11th century English. If it is a modern translation of the name that is a different matter. A different form of the name as an article title might be better, but I don't personally think it makes much difference, because I agree with the reviewer who declined the draft submission on the grounds that the subject doesn't seem to satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria. However, I have restored the draft and removed the speedy deletion tag, and I will leave it there. JBW (talk) 09:06, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing the draft back! It's certainly a unique name, but using modern translations is the norm when discussing Anglo-Saxon and Norman England. For instance, we don't refer to Harold Godwinson by the Old English Hereweald (Harold (given name)). Xismyhero (talk) 18:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Why did you remove content from battle of dewair 1582

• Note: For convenience of anyone who reads this and wishes to see the relevant editing history, the link given in the original post here is wrong. The article on which I had taken action is Battle of Dewair (1582); I didn't even know that battle of dewair 1582 existed until I received these messages. JBW (talk) 11:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Your recent edit on battle of dewair 1582 was not fair, removing content without any reason BasedMaratha (talk) 11:25, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Do you know User:R2dra? Being a brand new user, two of your edits are in favour of his POV. Imperial^[AFCND] 11:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

does that matter? BasedMaratha (talk) 11:49, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@BasedMaratha: Can you clarify what further explanation you need, beyond what I gave in edit summaries? If there's something else you need explained then I will be happy to try to help, but at present I can't think of anything else that might be helpful, beyond what I've already said. JBW (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Please revert your edit, redirecting a brief and clear article into a short and confusing paragraph isn't fair. You may even review the sources too BasedMaratha (talk) 09:08, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

@BasedMaratha: What you are asking me to do is to ignore consensus reached at a deletion discussion, and deliberately impose a view contrary to that consensus. That is totally unacceptable. Wikipedia works by editors accepting consensus, not by anyone who disagrees with the consensus just ignoring it and trying to impose their own view. JBW (talk) 10:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Kindly ignore it. They won't understand nor try to understand about the criterias. This often happens to the India-Pakistan related contentious topic areas, especially for MILHIST related topics. If we point out any disruptive editing they made, they will just lengthen the our talk page with some "nonsense and useless comments". And you are far and far more experienced than me, so I think there is no need to take an advice from me, but you know already about these. Thanks! Imperial^[AFCND] 11:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Saying You may even review the sources too really isn't a good idea since I did just that and posted my results here. In particular, I specifically criticised the references in the version you restored. For example "THE LION OF HIND: Power, Passion, Patriotism. One Man's Guts Sends Shivers Down the Mughal Spine!" is on Clever Fox Publishing, which is self-published apparently. Even if you want to argue it isn't self-published, I suggest reading its entry on Kobo (much as I hate linking to a commercial site, it is necessary) where it appears in the category Kids, Teen, General Fiction. Yes, that's right, a fictional book for children! And despite knowing this R2dra restored the version using it as a reference. I further noted that footnotes #1-6 in that version are to the book "Parakram aur Parampara: Rajputana Chronicles", which is self-published on Notion Press. How's that for a review? Many thanks to JBW for protecting the page, as I noted in the commnent I linked to there have been numerous attempts in article and draft space to recreate all the article, all failing miserably since the source material does not appear to exist. FDW777 (talk) 13:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Dhamrai Government College

Hello JBW, I tagged Dhamrai Government College for deletion under G11, but Mach61 removed the tag, stating it's not promotional. However, I still think it's promotional and should be deleted under G11. I just want to hear an admin's opinion on this. What do you think? – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer:

• The short version is that I think that deletion of the article would be fully justifiable, but not under G11. For the longer version, read on.
• To start with, I think that if a page which says "Various students of this college are in various big institutes of the country and have made the country bright. Many students are shining the name of this college" isn't promotional then I wonder what would be. However, that can easily be removed, so I don't think that speedy deletion as promotional would be justifiable.
• I also think that including "Also, there is a student of the said school who has been very interested in technology since childhood" in an article is ridiculous.
• Once all of that has been removed, we will be left with a trivial article which doesn't even begin to demonstrate notability.
• Three of the four references are dead links. The other one does not mention the fact for which it is supposed to be a reference; in fact the only thing in the article which is supported by any cited source is that the college exists. JBW (talk) 17:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I was also considering removing the promotional material from the article. However, I realized that after doing so, we would only have a small portion of the article left. I also thought about nominating it for AfD, but I believe it can be kept as a redirect per ATD/SCHOOLOUTCOME. That’s why I wanted to discuss it with you. – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer: Articles much better than this one get deleted all the time at AfD, but for some reason there's a widespread tendency to set a lower notability threshold for educational institutions than for other organisations. My bet would be that, even so, this one would more likely than not fail to survive an AfD, whether that would mean deletion or redirecting, though of course I can't be sure. Where would you consider redirecting it to? JBW (talk) 21:40, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Redirecting to its parent institution, National University, Bangladesh would make sense. – DreamRimmer (talk) 00:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer: Yes, that seems a good idea. JBW (talk) 10:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for your valuable time and feedback. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Good luck

Re: [1]. Good luck and I hope all turns out well. Sam Kuru (talk) 16:04, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

HOM Furniture

I am unclear on why this page was deleted, or how it constituted promotional material. I am new enough to Wikipedia writing that I want to get it right. I looked up how to un-delete a page, and Wiki's own article said to reach out to the admin who deleted it. Please let me know next steps. I am not just trying to promote HOM, but point out the notability of this company. It is large, with lots of employees throughout the Midwest, and changed how discount furniture is found and sold in this region. HOM also matters to its community thanks to Wayne Johansen's philanthropy. Again, please let me know what to do so this wiki page can go live. If it needs to be shorter, OK. I added research that is not just from HOM. I hope this can be resolved. Quadaya (talk) 17:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

@Quadaya: It is very difficult to tell you what was promotional about the pages you created, because it was more a matter of the overall tone and feel than specific details which I could point out. Do you work in marketing, advertising, PR, or a related field? If you do, I'm afraid my experience over the years has been that people who work in those areas get so used to writing and reading promotional material all day, year after year, that they can get desensitised to it, and may find it extremely difficult to see why something looks promotional to other people. Obviously I don't know whether that applies in your case.

If you like I can restore your draft to give you a chance to work on it, and then submit it for an independent reviewer to assess whether it's suitable to become an article. Let me know if you still want me to do that, but be warned that I think doing so may well be an unproductive use of your time, because it seems to me that the business does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I have both looked at the references which you provided, and searched for further information myself, and nowhere did I see anything like the kind of substantial coverage in independent reliable sources which are needed. A promotional tone in an article can be edited out, but no amount of editing an article can change the notability of the subject of that article.

One other thing. Do you have a connection to the business you have written about, such as being an employee of it, a contractor working for it, a friend of the owners, or any other kind of personal connection? If you do then you need to read the guideline on conflict before you do any more editing on the subject. JBW (talk) 19:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I work with HOM, so if this is an issue I will ask someone not working with HOM to create a draft and make sure it is notable, given how many other furniture stores I see that are considered notable because of their size and what they mwan to the community. Thanks for the info. 155.190.3.6 (talk) 16:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

@Quadaya: Someone creating an article on behalf of the business is just as much subject to the conflict of interest guideline and other related requirements whether they are an employee of the business, an outside contractor, a friend doing it as a favour, or anyone else, so getting someone else to do it is irrelevant. Also, if you read the notability guidelines you will see that whether a business is regarded as notable has nothing to do with "their size and what they mean to the community". I am not expressing a personal opinion as to whether that should be so or not, I'm just letting you know that it is. JBW (talk) 19:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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Wishing well and a heads-up

Hi, JB, hope you're feeling better.

I noticed that you blocked 24.121.225.34 back in 2019 and thought you'd like to know that they've been ramping up the vandalism again.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 21:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68:

1. Thanks. In most ways I'm getting better, but there are downs as well as ups.
2. I've blocked the IP address for 3 years. I feel a longer block might be justifiable. JBW (talk) 21:41, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

It's like a reverse "DESTROY" vandal

Hey, JB, check this out when you get a chance; they want something CONTINUED rather than DESTROYED. Philippines so I doubt it's "DESTROY"   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 00:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it's this LTA?   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 00:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: As you may have seen, I blocked the IP address some hours after you posted this message, and I meant to make an answer here in answer to your comment about the LTA, but I see I didn't. Maybe I was called away to do something else, I don't know. Anyway, a little late, my answer is that it looks as though it could be the same person, but I don't really see enough evidence. Your comparing it to a reverse DESTROY vandal is just about right. JBW (talk) 21:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

IP-hopping Russian edit warrior

Hi, JB, just giving you a heads-up about these IPs, which are pretty clearly the same editor. 178.206.249.125, 178.205.126.152, and 188.225.50.114   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: I've blocked those three Ip addresses for a month, but I expect more will turn up. Protecting the pages they have edited would probably be useful, but I'm not doing it now because I'm on my phone, and all the necessary jumping about to deal with all the pages would be tedious. I may or may not be on a computer in a few hours; if I am I may come back to it. Reverting recent edits may he a good idea too. JBW (talk) 14:18, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

RE: National Logistics Corporation

Hello, JBW. Hope you're in good health now. Could you please take a look at the contributions of Usamanaeem31 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) again? It seems to be a clear case of WP:COI and despite your warning they haven't disclose their COI. I'm also concerned that this is just another account of Maars101 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) (blocked by you). In any case Usamanaeem31 is a WP:SPA and clearly they are not here to build an encyclopedia rather whitewash the article. 194.60.199.178 (talk) 21:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Clearly SEO officers are not allowed to edit Wikipedia articles directly when they have WP:COI. They are still doing despite warnings. A block here is necessary. 194.60.199.178 (talk) 21:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for calling my attention to this. I've blocked the account. JBW (talk) 21:38, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Sir! 194.60.199.178 (talk) 21:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Block of 2A00:23C8:9FB7:5C00:0:0:0:0/64

Ta muchly!. Let's hope the block does some good (though my breath is unheld). Narky Blert (talk) 21:32, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: I have wondered about protecting the articles most affected, but I am editing on my phone, and all the necessary jumping about from page to page would just be too tedious. In any case, it would give at best a brief respite, because the potential collateral damage from protecting so many pages would, I think, make it unacceptable to do it for a long period. JBW (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree. Narky Blert (talk) 21:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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aubearing.com

Hi! I've just spent a couple of hours investigating a spam farm which turns out to be related to the one you found spamming aubearing.com. I blocked quite a few more accounts spamming the same domain and many others spamming other links. I found your spam blacklist report and checked all the accounts there that I hadn't already seen, which led to a few more. It's worth poking a checkuser for any throwaway account spamming external links but doubly so if you find more than one account spamming the same link. In my limited experience so far as a CU, there's never just one! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:17, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

@HJ Mitchell: Yes, that's something I don't tend to think of, but obviously now you've pointed it out, it makes sense. I'll try to remember it for the future. JBW (talk) 20:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

You'd think professional SEO outfits would be slicker but they're usually not at all sophisticated. Which I guess is a good thing from our perspective! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

2a02:c7c::/32's block at AN

Hi JBW, I found 2a02:c7c::/32's block settings interesting enough to start a discussion about it; it's at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard § 2a02:c7c::/32 and your input would be welcome. I'm notifying everyone whose name appears in the block log as this is practically a review of a series of admin actions yours was a part of. I hope that, due to the amount of administrators who built the block to the current state, discussing this in a central location directly rather than asking everyone for input on their own talk page is okay. And perhaps there was a past discussion and this is completely unnecessary silliness of me; I apologize in advance if that's the case. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:Splashgxd

Wow, that was quite the mess they created. Think I got them all. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 17:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@Taking Out The Trash: Yes. One good thing is that they went so far overboard with their nonsense that a block was obvious, without having to wonder whether to give another friendly AGF warnings or anything of the sort. JBW (talk) 17:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #86746

Wow. Well said. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Somebody doth protest too much, methinks

Hey, JB, check out this user talk page when you get a chance. So polite!   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: Yes. By the time I got there, the IP address was already blocked, otherwise I would have done it. I thought of posting a message about civility, but decided that would be just feeding the troll, so I have left it, but watchlisted the talk page, with a view to stepping in if it all starts up again. JBW (talk) 19:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Anyone trying to get a rise out of me has their work cut out for them. I'm in customer service.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Another 'non-user' chancer

Please have a look at this one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jadirior/sandbox , that seems a personal vanity page from over a year ago, the user having not contributed at all. Found again through a spam image on Commons. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 13:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Acabashi: I've deleted the page, and supported your deletion nomination on Commons. I also found that the editor had created another copy of the same page, which has already been deleted. I think it's close to certain that the person will never come back, but I'll watchlist the pages just in case. JBW (talk) 16:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 10:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #87015

Wanna unblock? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I figured that one was going to work out. You win some, you lose some, but that's a disappointment. JBW, Keychron makes some great mechanical keyboards if that's your sort of thing. --Yamla (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I feel so used. In processing this, a couple of pop culture ref's popped into my head. This is the best. "I am a little disappointed-- and if there is one thing I do not like, it is to be-- disappointed. --Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg. Not a mathematician, so I hope I get this right. P(u) = 1/∞, where u = future unblock of Crazybob2014. Best -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra and Yamla: One of the things that strike me most forcefully about this is the sheer stupidity. If they hadn't jumped right into restoring their block-evading edits the moment they were unblocked, I probably wouldn't have noticed. I think that confirms what I already strongly suspected, which is that before long we would have had a CIR block, if there hadn't been any other reason for a block. JBW (talk) 18:22, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Indeed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

IMHO

arson is never the answer. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, yes you may be right, but it might sometimes be helpful in dealing with trolls. JBW (talk) 20:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Trolls should not have flamethroers. or UTRS access. UTRS appeal #87165 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

NO, but admins should have flamethrowers to deal with trolls. At least I was old that admins needed flamethrowers when I became an admin, so it must be true. See User talk:JBW/Archive 12#Congratulations JBW (talk) 20:11, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: It turns out that the link was even more appropriate than I realised. I remembered that I'd been given a flamethrower after my RfA, but what I'd forgotten was that the person who gave it to me (a now long gone editor called Peter) actually said that it could be used for killing trolls, just as I said above. JBW (talk) 20:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: Come to think of it, large goats are reputed to be effective against trolls. Whether as good as flamethrowers, I'm not sure. JBW (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Definitely pro-goat -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

revdel request

Hey, JB, could you take out some trash? Edit & edit summary contain hate speech.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:55, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Indian Hacker Group

Kinldy Review Draft:Team_Hacktivist_Vanguard . Techrd2000cork (talk) 16:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

IP sock returned

You had blocked this IP range and the sock who abused is now back. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Observer1989#18 April 2024. He is also ranting about my reverts[2] the same way he did with his last IP range. [3] Thanks Ratnahastin (talk) 11:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't see any obvious reason for thinking this is the same person, and I do see one striking difference in their editing pattern. JBW (talk) 11:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I would urge you to recheck. His writing style is the same i.e. failing to capitalize the letter after putting the dot and also not giving a space; "reliable.the author"[4], "available too.there are other".[5] He is hounding my edits on other articles too [6] just like he did earlier. [7] Ratnahastin (talk) 12:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Ratnahastin: OK, I've looked again, and the difference I thought I had seen was not actually consistent: both IP addresses sometimes do things one way and sometimes the other, which makes it far more likely that they are the same person. I will block the new IP address. There's also one edit that I've seen from another IP address in the same range, seemingly the same person. It's too large a range to consider a total block on the whole range, but I'll partially block the range from the pages those two IP addresses have edited. Unfortunately, it seems likely that they will come back on another page, another range, or both. Please feel welcome to contact me again if they do. JBW (talk) 12:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Here too. He is back to his 2409 IP and restoring the edits of his sock IP.[8] Ratnahastin (talk) 12:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I had not seen this message when I wrote my message above, but I'll have a look at it. JBW (talk) 12:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Mass article deletion

Hello, JBW,

I see you just did a mass article deletion of pages created by a sockpuppet but, for some reason, the tool you used left behind all of the Talk pages (see here). It's not a big problem as I run a Quarry query that displays all of the orphaned Talk pages from all namespaces (except for User talk pages) so I took care of them. But you might consider switching to an option like Twinkle's Batch Delete which will take care of deleting not only the Article page but also the Talk page and any redirects that exist, too. It's kind of a powerful tool though, as I found out the hard way, but it is another tool that is available.

I hope you are having a decent week (it is lovely here in NW U.S.) and thanks for all you do here on the project! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Liz. I thought I had things set to delete everything in all namespaces except File and User, but evidently it didn't do that. I have found in the past that the mass delete tool doesn't always do everything, for no obvious reason, so I'll take up your suggestion of Twinkle's Batch Delete, in the hope that it may work better.

I thought it was British people who were supposed to always comment on the weather. However, since you have asked, in the last few days it's become cool and showery, sometimes hail showers. (April, with his shoures soote, the droghte of March hath perced to the roote. Except that I didn't notice March being all that dry.) You don't choose to live on a valley side in the Western slopes of the Pennines if you can't stand cool wet weather. JBW (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: It's just occurred to me. NW U.S.? so no longer NJ? JBW (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Help

Hi @JBW hope you are well , and I would like to request for undeletion of this Draft:FlexClip deleted under CSD G11 and think it is not promotion

. Please restore the page so that I can make edits to it Thank you Alimahmuttr (talk) 08:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

The suggestion that it was not promotion is absurd: it was absolutely promotion. Also, you need to comply with the guideline on conflict of interest and the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use relating to paid editing. JBW (talk) 09:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Also, please read WP:ADMINSHOP, and don't continue to post the same request in numerous places. Your requests to have your spam restored have now been declined by three administrators; continuing in the same way will not only be futile, because no administrator is going to restore it, but it will also result in your being blocked from editing. JBW (talk) 09:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Block evasion?

Hi there. You recently blocked an editor for this spam at WT:List of paid editing companies. Another account is now there adding essentially the same material. Thought you would want to know. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bri: Thanks I've blocked the account. JBW (talk) 22:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

83.137.6.237

Whoever is using this IP today has been daring admins to block them again.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 19:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Deleted file

I see you deleted File:Paul huff pkwy.png as a copyright violation. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any discussion about this being a possible violation. What was it that made you think so? Bneu2013 (talk) 23:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bneu2013: I didn't "think" so, I knew so. Fortunately 0x 2x tagged it as a copyright infringement, with a link to a photograph on Google maps, and when I checked I found that the photograph you uploaded is identical to the photograph at Google maps, in every detail, right down to the same car in the process of driving out of an entrance, in exactly the same spot. Why do you ask how I knew? You must have known that you had copied the photograph. Why did you claim, when you uploaded the photograph, that it was your own work? You must have known that it wasn't. JBW (talk) 08:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

just to add, on the left side of the deleted image, there was a visible (though easy to miss, it was transparent grey) Google copyright text 0x 2x (talk) 08:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, 0x 2x. I knew that would be there somewhere, but I couldn't easily see it, and since the copyright infringement was blindingly obvious anyway, I didn't bother to search for it. Now you've told me where to look, though, I can see it. JBW (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Since it's been so long since I uploaded it, I don't remember why I claimed it was my own work. I may have copied it from Flickr and accidentally used the wrong tag. Whatever happened, I made a mistake. Why didn't this come up during the GA review? 0x 2x, why did I not get a notification on my talk page when you tagged it so I could have possibly fixed the issue? Bneu2013 (talk) 18:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bneu2013: I accept that it was a long time ago that you uploaded the image, so that you probably don't remember the circumstances, such as why you gave it as your own work. I also think, from what I have seen of your other editing, that it was a mistake, rather than dishonesty.

I took no part in the good article review, so I can't tell you why it didn't come up, but my guess is that nobody had any reason to suspect anything, and so nobody had any reason to check. I am not sure how you "could have possibly fixed the issue": if an image is not released under a free license then nothing you can do on Wikipedia can change that. The only way to change it is, in fact, to persuade Google to change its copyright terms, which I think is unlikely, to say the least. JBW (talk) 18:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

forgive me, but I do have a bit of a hard time believing it was a mistake as you claim, especially with other examples from this same time period being verifiably from Google Maps, tagged similarly with "Own work" (image for example, https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1800171,-84.8740418,2a,76.5y,27.57h,86.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfKZKoF8pxTebLL0C3tCjkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) though I'm not sure how to display other examples from Commons here. nearly all images (save for the logo and bridge) uploaded by you on the article Cleveland/Bradley County Greenway are verifiably taken from Google Maps, with what looks like a sharpness and saturation filter (could be JPEG compression?) applied to the images. 0x 2x (talk) 20:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, 0x 2x. The one you linked to was clearly no more the uploader's "own work" than the previous one, so I have deleted it. Obviously that must reduce one's confidence that the other one was a mistake. As you say, it has had some kind of filtering applied to it, including increase of saturation. I had looked fairly quickly through Bneu2013's file upload history, and missed that one, so I may have missed many more. I'll have another look.

The most remarkable thing I've seen connected to this is the following statement, made when a file on Commons was challenged as a copyright infringement: "I don't see the issue here. This is a photo I retrieved at a public library. How am I supposed to prove anything about it's publication? I know nothing about it's history, or whether it was ever published at all for that matter." That was a few years ago, and may not reflect Bneu2013's current view, but it certainly raises the possibility of copyright infringements because of disregard for copyright, rather than innocent error. JBW (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't remember, but I think those images came from Flickr. If someone screenshotted them from Google Maps and then uploaded them to Flickr, then I guess I can't verify their copyright status. If I can't confirm this, I'll request their deletion. Also, I must ask, 0x 2x what brings a user with only five edits to this issue? Bneu2013 (talk) 22:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it's relevant, but I'm just a lurking user with extensive knowledge on Google Maps (more specifically, Street View) and also knowledge of the fact that Google's handle on copyright is quite incompatible with Wikipedia's, that stumbled across this page with an image that very obviously came from a Google Street View panorama taken with a Generation 3 (R7) Google 360 camera.

anyways, since I now know how to embed Commons links, here are the panoramas from where the rest of the images that I know of came from, for more verification of their status.

commons::File:CBC Greenway near 17th Street.png : https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1710486,-84.8792896,2a,75y,18.26h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5f_TU4Bv2cf_0buKF-SeYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

commons::File:CBC Greenway Tinsley.png : https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2017423,-84.8574356,2a,90y,136.1h,87.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUEtXP1-s_nzbUA5gj-2bHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

commons::File:Greenway Park Cleveland, TN.png : https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1906264,-84.866271,2a,75.9y,348.7h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA5pJcawoJhIk6F9DVD-Gtg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 0x 2x (talk) 00:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I requested speedy deletion of those, but according to another user, they are too old for that. Bneu2013 (talk) 00:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

• @0x 2x: You can link to a file on Commons by typing [[commons::File:CBC Greenway near 17th Street.png]] in the wiki markup, which produces this link on the page: commons::File:CBC Greenway near 17th Street.png. JBW (talk) 22:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Recent activity on my User talk

Given an off-wiki approach I have also had, I believe Alimahmuttr, Charlessmith9 and Editorahmad belong in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of علي أبو عمر. This is Ali Al Suleiman, https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-al-suleiman/. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Please tag this for speedy deletion

Hi there, can you please tag this Collen Mashawana page for speedy deletion I don't think it's notable. I also think it's not written from a neutral standpoint.Bobbyshabangu _talk 16:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bobbyshabangu: I don't understand. If you think the article should be tagged for speedy deletion then why do you ask me to do it, instead of doing it yourself? JBW (talk) 16:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Because in the past you've tagged my articles for speedy deletion, so who else to better delete the article except you?. Also, because I think the person who initially wrote this article was paid to do so.Bobbyshabangu _talk 18:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Imlil

A page that you have locked.

Location Consider updating the location to something more reasonable. At the moment the link suggests the town is a square metre in size 90.240.165.192 (talk) 08:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

You must mean Imlil, Marrakesh-Safi. If so, can you clarify what you want changed, and preferably what you want it changed to? I can't see anything in the article about the size of the place, and I don't know which link you are referring to. JBW (talk) 09:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)