User talk:Binksternet/Archive48

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Binksternet in topic Reboot (fiction)

About the blocked IP and its use of multiple IPs

Answered in the page review. 148.101.39.37 (talk) 06:44, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Looks like you got blocked as Therainbowsend, Wooeyparks and Kyleoconnor. Binksternet (talk) 15:20, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
You're wrong, You're wrong, I'm not that Wooeyparks, I have not had accounts associated with him because he was correcting some of the items that were in disorder and apart from having had a mess with AngusWOOF, that I get involved with someone who has had edition wars with me, I explained in the recently blocked IP discussion page about the real name of the Japanese voice actress on the first occasion and really knowing that it is difficult for me to find the maiden name in the database and I mentioned the same as the previous one and now they tell me that I evaded the block knowing that all the time I was going through Wooeyparks as their multiple IPs. 179.52.198.7 (talk) 00:31, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks trivia etc re that Titanic/Lincoln LTA

Re your revision at Assassination of Abraham Lincoln: Thank you for keeping an eye on that article - much appreciated. And it's interesting to me...that statement by the eyewitness (David Dorn) would seem to somewhat be in error. These are the issues:

  • so far as I can tell there was no curtain at the back of the Presidential Box at Ford's
  • unless Mr. Dorn was seated on the other side of the Dress Circle, it would be virtually impossible for him to look squarely into Booth's face. He was not seated across from the Box - Dorn was seated somewhere in the orchestra.
  • Dorn says "I think Mr. Lincoln, Mrs. Lincoln, Major Rathbone, Tad Lincoln and possibly another man and woman were in the box". Tad was most definitely not there, he was watching a production of Aladdin at another theater.
  • The photo of Dorn that is included in that newspaper account of unknown date is not contemporaneous to the Civil War. It shows a middle-aged/elderly man so the statements were not contemporaneous to the events - probably at least ten years later and maybe even 20 or 30, so Mr. Dorn's statements should probably be considered as being somewhat unreliable.

Heh well, that's all. Shearonink (talk) 18:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Our LTA friend seems to throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks. Binksternet (talk) 20:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Switched-On Bach and electronic rock

I didn't add Switched-On Bach to {{Electronic rock}} and don't have an opinion about its inclusion or your revert of my edit, but here's a friendly reminder to complete the task and remove the link from the navbox as well, to preserve the bidirectionality of the navbox. Thanks, and happy editing! Ibadibam (talk) 01:16, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

If you're keen on bidirectionality, you might want to add to your armamentarium the question of whether the first link deserves to be in its place, before you add the second link. Binksternet (talk) 01:20, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
The thought crossed my mind, but as I said, I'm not prepared to render an opinion as to the suitability of its inclusion. I was merely doing the gnomish work of ensuring the navbox was properly transcluded. I appreciate your providing the domain knowledge I lack to produce a better outcome. Ibadibam (talk) 01:27, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Jack Vixion

Seems he's the latest version of a chaos maker on Wikipedia as of late. Do you think he's deserving of an LTA page? He just made a lame attempt to troll me based on my band userboxes on my userpage. It was rather humorous, I'll admit. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 15:34, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Sure. You would want to start with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jack Vixion/Archive. A really complete case page would go back further than his registered accounts to list the Indonesian IPs that alternated between lousy changes to hard rock and heavy metal articles, and fairly constructive changes to racing topics. Binksternet (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Such as Special:Contributions/36.84.226.215 and Special:Contributions/36.84.226.155. Binksternet (talk) 16:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
I tried to explain that this latest incarnation was an obvious sock, but I was still brought here because they couldn't see it. He ended up being blocked for a different reason, not for sockpuppetry, and as a result, they're still investigating. On a somewhat related note, now I/we have this to worry about too. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 16:14, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

About St Germain - Tourist

You asked me to join sources in the genre section of the infoox when I did my change, something that I can comprehend, but can you tell me where the sources are for the "pop, rock, electronic" genres?

It's more for the genres previously mentioned that I would personally like to see a serious source, because I don't think it's a question of "point of view" that St Germain's music has nothing to do with pop and rock, and vice versa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.161.19.252 (talk) 20:17, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

A problem with your sources: The www.albumoftheyear.org website allows user reviews, which are not deemed reliable. The genre "electronic music" is already covered by nu jazz and acid jazz. Binksternet (talk) 01:42, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Coldplay & other music related articles

I have noticed a regular editing patten within the Coldplay related articles by you and the Kent IP addresses. It is very good how you manage to spot the sock puppetry edits that these IP addresses have made. Iggy (Swan) 18:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the support, Swan. I track a bunch of problem editors in my own namespace. In this case the page is User:Binksternet/Kent IPs. Binksternet (talk) 19:24, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
They're back again (86.165.144.41). I've noticed this through Coldplay related articles again plus others. Iggy (Swan) 10:48, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
I've also seen that you've posted a message re multiple IP addresses so presumably you knew this IP address came from Kent anyway. There should be enough edits made by the IP address for a sock puppetry block like a couple of others. Iggy (Swan) 10:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
I just filed a report at WP:AIV. Let's see what happens there. Binksternet (talk) 15:43, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Discogs

Discogs is a reliable source, because they accurately reproduce credits from album sleeves, so you must have sent this message by mistake and please be careful of you who single out. I have previously used Discogs as a source, especially when adding the studios for Linda Ronstadt's "Heart Like a Wheel", but nobody reverted that edit. 60.240.8.249 (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Discogs is listed specifically as an unreliable source at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources. The reason is that users can change the content without editorial oversight. Binksternet (talk) 06:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Your message

Excuse me, but my edit on the Gina G page is not vandalism. I never said she was dead, simply that she was not musically active anymore, which is correct considering she hasn't released anything since 2011 and doesn't perform anymore either. Perhaps I misunderstood what "years active" means in which case I apologise but call it vandalism is ridiculous.

Secondly, your reversion of my edit on the Daria Kasatkina page is even more absurd. I simply updated her career high ranking in the lead sentence, which was out-of-date and now, because of your revert, is once again (as per the infobox and her WTA profile).

FYI, I have never vandalised Wikipedia, and the other earlier warnings on my page are also from admins who have misunderstood my edits which are ALL in good faith. No wonder this site is losing editors with such an attitude of thinking everybody is a vandal. 86.17.57.21 (talk) 22:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I assumed that your edits were a continuation of the previous disruption from the same IP address. Binksternet (talk) 23:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Your input on List of Christian rock bands's talk page was appreciated. I'd like to see something done, not just have it left as is. 2600:1702:1690:E10:5DB1:E494:B72E:DDE8 (talk) 21:04, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree with you, but I don't think the issue is urgent. To me, it seems like it would be a good idea to have a discussion about inclusion criteria on the talk page, and if the interested editors end up at a standstill, start a WP:Request for comment about the issue, to bring in new eyes. Binksternet (talk) 21:23, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Please do not attack editors without knowing all the facts nor put personal information/comments on talk pages. If you have any problems with me go to a noticeboard about it not on articles. I was nice to you and don't need you or WG bringing up the past when it doesn't matter. Others involved have also been disruptive (ie. recently on JG and BG articles). Be fair and respectful. Your messages on talk pages are inappropriate. I asked for your help but you decided to turn on me. I don't want you contacting me or harassing me. WG is guilty and has been blocked too. I'm sure if I do some checking i'll see you have before also. Would you like me to put where you edit from? Knock it off. It has nothing to do with the task at hand for that article. This is why editors get angry on here. Give the benefit of the doubt and assume good faith. Your comments on the talk pages were disruptive and unwarranted. Leave me alone. 2600:1702:1690:E10:388F:8A9D:EDC1:B48 (talk) 20:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
The history on the Jon Gibson article shows that you added unreliable sources, poor sources, and bad writing. When you start taking responsibility for your own bad editing and poor behaviour, you might have fewer problems on Wikipedia. Binksternet's comments were quite correct. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:54, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Hitler / white genocide

Hello, I understand you bringing up WP:SYNTH, I was expecting it at some point as I had tried to open a discussion on the talk page while the page was locked. Anyway, the way I see it is that the page is either about the term "white genocide" or the conspiracy theory that Jews want to corrupt white people with African blood. If it is the second, then Hitler can be included:

  • United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: "In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler charged that “the Jews had brought the Negroes into the Rhineland with the clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily-resulting bastardization.”" [1]
  • Holocaust Memorial Day Trust: "In Mein Kampf, Hitler charged that ‘the Jews had brought the Negroes into the Rhineland with the clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily-resulting bastardisation’. Nazi propaganda posters, showing friendship across racial groups, referred to ‘a loss of racial pride.’" [2]
  • Medium.com: "Hitler, in his autobiography, Mein Kampf, described blacks as tools in a plot by “international Jewry” to take over the world: “It was and it is the Jews who bring the Negroes into the Rhineland, always with the same secret thought and clear aim of ruining the hated white race by the necessarily resulting bastardization, throwing it down from its cultural and political height, and himself rising to be its master.”" [3]
  • Huffington Post: "“Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate.” Words by Adolf Hitler, from his diatribe, Mein Kampf (My Struggle)" [4]

Personally, I am of the belief that this can be included even though the exact words "white genocide" were not used by Hitler. If a modern far-right leader said that Jews were bringing in black people to corrupt the white race – without using the exact words "white genocide" – this would be included in the article. However, Wikipedia is not my personal website so I respect consensus and will not revert you. Anarcho-authoritarian (talk) 17:47, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

The bit you introduced from the Holocaust Museum website fails discuss the Mein Kampf quote in relation to conspiracy theory. That's what is needed. Binksternet (talk) 18:53, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Heart (band)

  • Why remove mention of Mike Fisher? (It doesn't say he was a bandmember, so you haven't removed him as a bandmember.) He was, however, a significant factor, and at one time about ~25% "owner" of the band, so it's relevant to mention that both he and Roger left, not just that Roger left.
  • Why remove "See: List of Heart band members" and leave the "past_members" field empty? I fail to see how having a pointer to a list of past members is contrary to WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE, and would be interested to read why you think it is. (In fact, I would have thought having a pointer to a list, rather than a long list of names, was exactly in harmony with WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE).

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:03, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Mike Rogers was not a musician, just a guy who liked to hang out with the band. Yes, he thought of a name for the band, and he moved to Canada, which eventually brought the band to follow behind him. But I don't see any sources calling him a band member. If you know of any sources that define Mike's role as more important, then bring those in and tell the reader about it.
Regarding INFOBOXPURPOSE, the guide says, "Avoid links to sections within the article; the table of contents provides that function." So that's why I removed the section link from the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 08:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Who is Mike Rogers? Mike Fisher is Roger Fisher's brother who had a live-in relationship with Anne Wilson in Canada whilst he was draft-dodging. To say he was "just a guy who liked to hang out with the band" is arrant nonsense and displays considerable ignorance of the history of the band. Please re-read the article; there are already plenty of references to and about him. But if you are unsatisfied, please ask and I will happily point you to them.
But I don't see any sources calling him a band member. - I don't understand why you continue to mention this. He wasn't, and it's irrelevant. What's the point that you are unsuccesfully trying to make? Please re-read what I wrote above, and if it's still not clear to you, please ask and/or clarify your point (which I don't understand).
If you know of any sources that define Mike's role as more important - Suggest you re-read the article - the mentions are numerous. Again, if you're unsatisfied, please ask.
Regarding INFOBOXPURPOSE ... - Thanks for that, I'd missed that section. However, it's irrelevant. List of Heart band members is a separate article, not a subsection of this article.
Thanks for your polite response. It's refreshing to have an intelligent discussion, rather than a brawl, with an editor who has a different POV. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
BTW: You're removal of "See: List of Heart band members" has already (not unreasonably) resulted in an editor filling the blank hole with Howard Leese. Hence, given your faulty justification for removal of the link, I've reverted both the Leese edit, and your removal. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
BTW2: Should we be having this "discussion" on the Talk:Heart (band) page? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the notes. You're right, I should not have removed the link to another article. Binksternet (talk) 18:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018

 
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Van Halen "Dreams"

I apologize for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.173.173 (talk) 21:35, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

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Sorry for asking here

...but I've really no idea where to send "personal messages / mail" within this system. I've a question for you, for the simple reason you were the person who welcomed me to the site some time back. Could you let me know if there is a more appropriate forum / method for my asking you questions regarding the finer points of wikipedia-ing? Thanks in advance! :oD Saturn comes back around (talk) 16:07, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Saturn comes back around, I know there is a tutorial for "getting started", but you're asking for something beyond that. Instead of a general "finer points" tutorial, there are various tutorials for specific tasks, for instance there are Wikipedia:Graphics tutorials, and lot of Category:Wikipedia how-to guides, and other tutorials. I think a particularly powerful skill is referencing, as unreferenced text is far more likely to be deleted by the next editor. See Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources.
Otherwise, ask me whatever you like. Binksternet (talk) 16:30, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you most kindly. I simply wanted to ask whether there is some sort of (sane) authoritative body for resolving edit wars, as I seem to be embroiled in one, and would rather settle the matter in a sane manner. However, my constantly being reverted for fixing (what appears to me, anyway) to be a most glaring and obvious error regarding grade-school-level math is starting to make me feel I've stepped into the Twilight Zone. Perhaps I am quite wrong, but it seems people are reverting the edit by kneejerk instinct, without bothering to actually read the context and see that what is currently on the page is utterly self-contradictory. And so, while I very much do not wish to pull you into this maelstrom unnecessarily, I am hoping you can point me towards some method of resolving this. I am aware we should strive for consensus, but mathematics is not open for debate. It is either correct or it is not. Is there anyone who can make the call? Thanks, and I apologize again for (possibly) getting you "involved" in this matter. Saturn comes back around (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)@Saturn comes back around: there are a couple of options that can help with an editing dispute. First and foremost, stay cool, no matter what, never ever focus on the editor and realize that something you see as cut and dried can be viewed differently by someone else in good faith. That said, the dispute resolution page has some helpful advice and options for handling disputes. Ravensfire (talk) 17:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Ravensfire. I'm happy to see and follow the correct procedure; after all, I just might be the one who's wrong here. (Needless to say, I rather doubt that is the case, but must admit it's certainly possible.) Again, thank you. Saturn comes back around (talk) 18:37, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Routine calculations are allowed per WP:CALC. The only leverage the other editor has to support deletion is whether the math result is relevant to the topic, and how important it is to tell the reader.
Wikipedia has several levels of dispute resolution:
Let me know which one of these methods you prefer to use first. Binksternet (talk) 19:10, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Whoops, didn't immediately catch your last line here before initially replying... Hmm... well, it seems to me the most correct thing here would be the second option, and to get more eyes on the issue. Hopefully, at least one of these eyes will be attached to a mathematically/astrophysically-trained mind, among whose most compelling interests or hobbies are to A) strive for objectivity, and, B) help resolve wikipedia disputes. =^_^= (Hope springs eternal...) Saturn comes back around (talk) 18:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Checking out your recent editing history, it appears that ratio of the resonance of the moons of Pluto is the issue. Is it the case that you are measuring a graphic representation of the moons, and coming up with a ratio from the graphic image? If so, then a stronger argument would be to collect a handful of published sources and share with the other editors what they say. You probably have some sources in mind, but left to my own initiative, I would peruse the sources discovered through searching on Google Books and Google Scholar. Just my two cents. Binksternet (talk) 00:28, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
My great thanks to both you and Ravensfire for the recommendations. To clarify, my issue is only indirectly related to the diagram, and is at heart somewhat simpler: the article as I found it was in a state of self-contradiction (the existing diagram is incompatible with the stated resonance), which requires deletion or emendation of one or both of the conflicting "sides", so far as I understand the point of wiki editing. To my mind, the actions I then took in editing the piece were to achieve these aims. This was reverted. As my history shows, my normal response in such cases is to then step immediately away and let the community review and decide. (Life is too short, and all that.) In this case, however, I felt compelled to keep "fixing" the content, as the math there is either incorrect or self-contradictory — or presented in a confusing manner which makes it appear so. The sole two explanations for the reverts have been to point at paywalled source, and a mathematical explanation which appears to be not applicable. To my mind, the editing history that follows my initial two edits strongly suggests the other party/ies did not thoroughly consider the matter in context... although, of course, I may be wrong about the whole thing. In any case, once again my sincere apologies for involving you in this nonsense, and my gratitude for the quick and sober-headed responses. All the best, Saturn comes back around (talk) 18:37, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

There is a discussion involving you on the Administrators incident board

There is a discussion involving you on the Administrators incident board here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User_Binksternet_attempting_to_abuse_RFC_to_overturn_previously_achieved_concensus S806 (talk) 04:15, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

My edits for Peter Gabriel Awards

Why did you remove my edits. Haven't you checked out what I edited? There are many mistakes by links for example the album Us is a link of the United States, the video album P.O.V. shows a television thing which has nothing to do with Peter Gabriel and so on. And I added Academy Awards, Golden Globe Awards and brought it all in a good looking form. By the way the overediting you did is worse and looks awful. Check it out before removing my (improving) edits! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.20.171.32 (talk) 02:25, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Hello. I don't believe that any of my edits were disruptive, and we're all properly referenced as you asked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicksfromvenus (talkcontribs) 05:42, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

You are adding inappropriate names to the associated acts list in the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 05:53, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
No.. all those names had close relations with the artists (look at the given sources). I don't understand the point of deleting them all is though.Chicksfromvenus —Preceding undated comment added 05:58, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Chicksfromvenus, the guideline for associated acts is at Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts. The bar is set higher than just one hit song together. Binksternet (talk) 04:08, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Binksternet. I understand. But for example, on my edit for artist Wiz Khalifa, all the acts I added had at least 7 or more collaborations with the artist. Another example, on my edit for the artist French Montana, the acts that were reverted (Future and The Weeknd) only have 2 and 3 respective collaborations with the artist. According to the cited sources, the acts I added had at least 7 ("Acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together").

Jeff Howell linked to Outlaw Page

I posted a response to you earlier (accidentally in Talk, not here), so instead of receiving a respectful response from you, like your previous contribution, I was the unfortunate recipient of an intrusive, arrogant reply from a domdeparis and an accusatory Shellwood. Had they taken the time to read my response, they would have realized I was being neither "vandalizing" nor "biased", as suggested. All I am trying to accomplish is to have the link to The Outlaw page removed from Jeff Howell, and accurate information and photos entered in its' place. Of course it should be included as a relevant link, just not as the Wiki Page that depicts "who/what" Jeff Howell is. That's just a brief moment in his life.

I also don't think it was necessary to get a lecture from domdeparis about being allowed to enter our own biographical information, due to "having a conflict of interest". I don't mean for this to sound confrontational. It was an observation. I noticed your Wikipedia page is written in the first person. Is it permitted or no? , I just happened upon it when trying to figure out how to message you on this talk page, and noticed that it appears to be personally written, so, since I was just scolded for doing that, thought I should ask.

This is what I initially responded to you: Thank you for your inquiry. I have just been made aware that the link to my husband, Jeff Howell (formerly of The Outlaws, Foghat, Savoy Brown, to name a few), goes directly to The Outlaw Wikipedia page. This is incorrect, and mainly irrelevant to his personal biographical content. An assistant attempted to add more pertinent information for us by quickly cutting and pasting more appropriate content from Jeff’s personal website, www.jeffhowell.org, until it can be more extensively addressed, but it has been changed back several times without confirming whether the content is correct or inquiring why we have attempted to change it. I am not fluent in coding and providing references, etc., but will provide the required information after learning how to include it. If you could provide any assistance in this area, it would be most appreciated. If I have been blocked to edit information, kindly remove it. I am only trying to remove an inaccurate link from my husbands personal Wikipedia page. Not change the Outlaw page. How can this be accomplished? Can you assist? Thank you LindaJhowell (talk) 14:12, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

So, since this writing, I understand a little more about the fact there are "rules" for Wikipedia, however haven't had time to review everything I obviously need to know. I'm a busy person. What I do know is I don't need some little gnat of a man (not you) to be condescending and know-it-ally with me. Perhaps if he had been more supportive and intent on providing accurate information, I wouldn't have gotten the response he felt necessary to give. Thanks for any support you can provide. (I have no idea if I'm doing the following correctly)LindaJhowell (talk) 01:57, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[1]

References

  1. ^ www.jeffhowell.org
LindaJhowell, I have a few answers for you...
  • "My" Wikipedia page is a user page, not a true Wikipedia article. You're right that I wrote it from a first-person point of view, but that's not allowed on real Wikipedia articles. User pages get some leeway in terms of how they are written, especially for veteran editors. I wrote it up after a 100 thousand Wikipedia edits and six years of participation, which firmly established the fact that I was here for the purpose of improving the encyclopedia rather than trying to get some free publicity.
  • Real Wikipedia articles should be written mostly from WP:SECONDARY sources, written by people who are not personally involved, the material published in magazine articles, newspapers, books, established and reliable web publications, etc. Real Wikipedia articles are also more formal, using last names instead of first names.
  • It looks like you have never been blocked. I am not an administrator, so I can't set or remove a block.
  • If you want to ping me on your talk page so that I am directed to respond to you there, you can include the following code (copy and paste the part inside the quotes): "{{u|Binksternet}}". To make it work, you have to sign your name at the end of your message, using four tildes in a row like this: ~~~~ ...Just now I used that method to ping you.
  • So now for your concerns. You would like the wikilink for Jeff Howell (musician) not to WP:REDIRECT to the Outlaws band article. As a temporary solution, I redirected it to Jeff Howell, but that is a circular link which isn't quite the right way. Perhaps it would be best to have the Jeff Howell and Jeff Howell (musician) links deleted so they appear red, and don't go anywhere. Another option is for the Jeff Howell (musician) link to redirect to the Foghat band page. You tell me which option you prefer.
  • I'm sure it would be satisfying to have a Wikipedia article about Jeff, but I looked around for some reliable publications talking about his life and career, and there aren't any. Every biography on Wikipedia needs to have notability established by the General notability guideline or the Basic criteria for people, but musicians have their own notability guideline at Criteria for musicians and ensembles. Basically, Jeff would have to have a charting single or album, or to have released two albums on a major label. It looks to me like those requirements are not met.
  • If I'm right and Jeff is not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, then your user page should not carry the same information that would otherwise be in Jeff's article. There's a policy called User pages that look like articles which says don't do it. It's possible to copy and paste that text to Draft:Jeff Howell, with the understanding that you will be working on the biography, but with so little written about him in reliable sources, I don't think that your time would be well spent doing that. Old, unfinished drafts get deleted, and there goes your work down the drain.
I'm sorry people here were rude to you. I hope you get some kind of satisfactory result from the conflict. Binksternet (talk) 04:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Binksternet and LindaJhowell I think that your reaction is symptomatic of why conflict of interest editing is so strongly discouraged. I don't know if I am the gnat that you are referring to but you should be a little more careful about the way you refer to other editors, civility is very important here sometimes more so than IRL because edits stay in the history here. I don't think that I or any other editor was intentionally ride to you. The messages on your talk page are automatic template messages that can be added to help users better understand Wikipedia. They are sometimes impersonal but never intentionally rude. If an editor is editing in a way that is problematic and potentially against policy than a "lecture" is important. The trouble is that despite the notices posted on your user page you continued to edit in the same way hence the need to continue the messages about policy. I hope now that you have been able to take the time to read them your editing experience on Wikipedia will be a happy one for you. Dom from Paris (talk) 07:23, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Just block me

Please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.240.4 (talk) 18:15, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Kent IP doing his thing again

*yawn*. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:01, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

And it's back again today - these edits have been reverted, using the same one as they did two days ago. Iggy (Swan) 18:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. I'm looking at it now. Binksternet (talk) 19:02, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
At the moment I've logged in, I have spotted the same IP address editing - I have filed in a sockpuppet investigation titled as the IP address which has been blocked indefinately, since there has been persistent block evasion by the Kent IPs. I know others have been spotting them but not as quick as me today when logging back. Iggy (Swan) 20:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Jesse Waugh AfD

Hi, I’m writing to ask if you might be willing to contribute a vote on the Articles for Deletion page for Jesse Waugh. The vote already took place based on the article’s current sources, but certain people seem to be determined to get it deleted. Thanks either way. 81.44.32.50 (talk) 07:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

I've never heard Oakland used as a pejorative term.

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.

(re the Jesse Waugh Afd)104.163.147.121 (talk) 01:48, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

189.149.224.212 back again

Can you please assist me in rangeblocking this IP user? Or protecting the articles it targets? —IB [ Poke ] 04:02, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

I see the IP is now blocked. Of course this is the same long-term abuse person who uses lots of IPs from Cancun and other places in the Yucatan peninsula. I was waiting until I saw this person making up shit, like adding unreferenced genres, before I did anything. Today's stuff was just small changes in appearance. Binksternet (talk) 05:05, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
But is there a way to range-block this person? The user hides unreferenced genre changes as well as template changes in the pretext of correcting the article, which is actually disruptive. —IB [ Poke ] 05:18, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive

G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
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As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.

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Removal of my edits

What I have made wasn't an original source, it truly is a DLC for both games, here's Just Dance 2015 citation [5], and Just Dance 2014 citation, [6]

My removal was based on WP:WEIGHT and WP:NOTEVERYTHING. It's not enough that a fact is true. It also must be important to the topic. Binksternet (talk) 15:57, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Accociated artists

Thanks for showing me the guidelines! DJ FunkFunk 10:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djfunkfunk (talkcontribs)

At. Long. Last. ASAP

An editor add this genre in the article, is the album is psychedelic music? TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 20:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

The Telegraph in the UK said "It is psychedelic in the sense of its colourfulness and warped interior logic, rather than in reference to Sixties rock." So, yeah, reviewers are saying it's psychedelic music, but they are not saying it's the old familiar stuff. Binksternet (talk) 02:43, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring?

Hi you have recently accused me of edit warring on the page of the 1953 Iranian coup d'etat, I was only reverting your vandalism. Miles Copeland Jr was a key figure during the coup:

"Roosevelt told Zahedi that former CIA official Miles Copeland was the most qualified person to assess the situation in the country. If Copeland decided that nothing could be done, then there would no point in attempting a coup." (Page 58, Politics of Confrontation: The Foreign Policy of the USA and Revolutionary Iran).

Miles Copeland, who was dispatched to Iran by Roosevelt to make a logistical survey in preparation for the coup, sheds further light. Having arrived in Tehran, Copeland discovered that CIA operatives had already charted the routes that the demonstrating hordes would have to take, and pinpointed the targets that anyone organising a coup would (...) (page 116, Covert Action in the Cold War: US Policy, Intelligence and CIA Operations)

So please stop your mindless vandalism.

VendixDM (talk) 17:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

You are showing that Miles Copeland Jr was there doing his assigned job during the 1953 Iranian coup. Nobody is questioning this. The reason I'm removing him from the infobox is that he is not shown to be a commander or leader of the coup. Instead, he is described as an analyst. Binksternet (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Then why don't you go ahead and remove Shapoor Reporter as well? Copeland had a similar role, probably even of more importance. He should be listed.

VendixDM (talk) 21:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I did just that after seeing your edit summary.
You know, the roles of both Reporter and Copeland can be described in the article body. My only point here is that they should not be listed in the infobox as commanders. Binksternet (talk) 21:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring at Chicago band

Hello Binksternet, you have flagged me for edit warring on the "Chicago" band article. I was not the editor on the initial changes, I merely added sources to justify the edit that guitar be added to Neil Donell. There is a sourced article associated with those changes. Can you review your decision to revert my edits based on what was added. I have no intention of being part of an edit war, I just wanted the article to reflect the correct information based on sources. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.212.21.197 (talk) 20:34, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for confusing you with the other guy. Most of your changes are okay. I'll comment further at Talk:Chicago (band). Binksternet (talk) 22:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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wikipedia scam

please report this scam website to your superiors http://wikiprofessionalsinc.org ≈≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.134.75.212 (talk) 16:49, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Smooth jazz

Please refrain from editing the smooth jazz article to suit your jazz purist POV definition. Smooth jazz isn't solely a pop music genre. It is a jazz genre influenced by pop and R&B. ANDROS1337TALK 16:38, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

My aim is to fairly represent published sources. What's your aim? Binksternet (talk) 17:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Associated acts

Good afternoon,

Could you please have a look at and maybe respond to my suggestion on the Prince Talk page? Thanks in advance DJ FunkFunk 17:25, 16 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djfunkfunk (talkcontribs)

Will do. Binksternet (talk) 17:45, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Thomas Jefferson

Hi! Templating Gwillhickers didn't improve either the Thomas Jefferson article or the collaborative relationships among editors so necessary to building the encyclopedia. Besides being offensive, the template was flat wrong: he wasn't trying to avoid detection or circumvent the blocking policy. Your edit summary here was also unhelpful. You asked for other opinions on the TJ talk page; I gave mine, which you may care to think about. I hope you choose to reconcile with Gwillhickers. Best wishes, YoPienso (talk) 01:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. The template I placed on his page was the wrong one. I didn't notice until later that I had not placed the intended warning against potentially violating the three-revert rule.
Regarding collaborative relationships, I have given up on Gwillhickers. He drove Brad101 away from the Jefferson article because of all the stonewalling and strident declamation. When faced with opposition he makes no apparent effort to understand the other side. He does what he wants to do until forced otherwise. Binksternet (talk) 02:12, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome, and thanks for your kind responses here and there.   YoPienso (talk) 02:38, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Britain First

I was not edit-warring. I took the matter to the talk page and you failed to respond. I have deleted your message. PlatinumHeron (talk) 17:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Writer's Barnstar
Have your first Barnstar! I love your continuous edits. ―YoloMaxi  (contribs) 21:56, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Heh heh... Looks like you're having fun with this. Binksternet (talk) 22:02, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Citation Barnstar
For your tireless efforts in deleting unsourced things. ―YoloMaxi  (contribs) 22:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for shout out! Binksternet (talk) 03:31, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Super Sentai

What exactly did I vandalise ?.2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01:88D7:947:A2AF:6ECB (talk) 21:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

You did not follow the guideline for maintenance template removal, which can be seen at Help:Maintenance_template_removal#Removal. You have been repeatedly making unconstructive changes to the Super Sentai article, using multiple IP addresses to evade scrutiny, for at least three years. Binksternet (talk) 21:16, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
My IP address keeps changing randomly. What's unconstructive about my edits ?.2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01:88D7:947:A2AF:6ECB (talk) 21:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Over and over you have added unreferenced stuff, restoring challenged text, disruptive stuff like that. Binksternet (talk) 21:27, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) (edit conflict) (edit conflict) Is that right, Binksternet? I took a look at the history of Super Sentai and was struck by how many different IPv6 addresses there were, all beginning with 2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01. If you're referring to those addresses, they can easily be rangeblocked without danger of collateral damage, if you explain a little more to me about the disruption. Or are there other kinds of IPs as well? That would make it harder. 2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01:88D7:947:A2AF:6ECB, if you can't help your IP changing so frequently (it does look a little unusual), I'd really recommend you to create an account, so that you'll have one talkpage, where people can communicate with you. Bishonen | talk 21:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC).
PS, mind you' I'll be going to bed in a little while, but I can come back tomorrow. Bishonen | talk 21:33, 28 April 2018 (UTC).
If you want me to back away from the article, just say so. 2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01:88D7:947:A2AF:6ECB (talk) 21:30, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Bishonen, this person has been using other IPs beyond the recent IP6 ones, for instance Special:Contributions/86.190.193.47, Special:Contributions/86.183.24.6, Special:Contributions/109.150.162.73, Special:Contributions/86.152.12.242, Special:Contributions/109.146.66.160, Special:Contributions/109.150.34.60, Special:Contributions/86.177.115.42, Special:Contributions/109.147.114.57, Special:Contributions/86.146.75.66, Special:Contributions/109.147.181.201, Special:Contributions/86.131.175.43, Special:Contributions/109.150.172.3, Special:Contributions/86.181.72.82, Special:Contributions/109.147.114.11, Special:Contributions/86.181.73.233, Special:Contributions/86.181.73.222, Special:Contributions/81.132.109.76, Special:Contributions/86.131.175.135 and Special:Contributions/86.136.129.83. In this case,[7][8] our friend from Lincolnshire has restored challenged text with old fact tags still in place. Other times the person has removed unreferenced text, so that positive behavior should be weighed in. Binksternet (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Oooh. Well, I can't really do anything about all those IPv4s, sorry. Quite a few of them seem to be dynamic, too. Are you sure that's all one individual? Anyway, they've offered to back away from the article if you say so; do you want to accept the offer? Bishonen | talk 21:59, 28 April 2018 (UTC).
Not really. There are plenty of other editors making unconstructive changes at that article, and this person helps rein those in. Besides, there are other articles of interest to this person, so the best option would be if our friend can adopt more constructive behavior, for instance citing sources all the time. Binksternet (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, then. I really wish they'd create an account, which would make it easier to communicate with them, but that's something everybody has to decide for themselves. Good night both. Bishonen | talk 22:07, 28 April 2018 (UTC).
(tps) See User talk:109.149.4.80. Yes, that's him...those IPs can be seen from August 2017 here and he also had 2A00:23C5:2E16:5701:0:0:0:0/64 range prior to his current one.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Response to your 'warning'

Binksternet, the first problem with the 'warning' you placed on my talk page is that there was no basis for it. It seems that you were confused by an edit I made on the FRC page in which I removed language calling FRC an advocacy organization. The edit you referenced did not have the slightest shred of POV to it. It is a simple matter of tax law. A nonprofit organization under IRC Section 501(c)(3) is, by definition, a charitable organization. Such an organization is also, by definition, not an advocacy organization; advocacy organizations fall within the category of social welfare organizations, which are tax-exempt under Section 501(c)(4) of the Code. As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, FRC is not an advocacy organization. For more information on this topic, please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)_organization.

The second problem is that instead of asking for clarification for an edit I made that confused you, you placed a 'warning' on my page that had no basis whatsoever.

I would ask that you please remove your 'warning,' take a look at Wikipedia:AGF and Wikipedia:ASPERSIONS, and refrain from jumping to conclusions about my edits without communicating with me first. SunCrow (talk) 05:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

No and no. I was not confused by you removing the bit about FRC being an advocacy organization. Rather, I saw in that removal a non-neutral bias. If you remove it again, the warnings will escalate. Binksternet (talk) 13:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were confused by my edit, but you apparently are not willing to extend me the same courtesy. That is unfortunate. The 'warning' will be removed, my edit on the FRC page will stay, and I will be watching carefully to see whether you make any further tendentious edits. SunCrow (talk) 17:59, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I smell a sock

The new sock smells like a Aussie sock and have a very distinctive editing style. Soft pop (talk) 18:03, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes. Same poor English writing skill, same focus, same style. Binksternet (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to interrupt, and speaking of that, it looks like the user name "Leavemehere" is Littlemixfan! too. And I believe that the edit summary says it all. Raritydash (talk) 17:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
On second thought, never mind. It looks like both users are blocked already. Raritydash (talk) 17:31, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

Hey there. I've reported Tha Industry as a promotional username. sixtynine • whaddya want? • 14:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh! I should have remembered to do that. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 14:29, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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British Fascism Page

I don't feel that the revert of my deletion of Britain First from the "British Fascism" section was appropriate. Whilst it is true that Britain First is a far-right, ultra-nationalist organisation, it does not fit with many of the core tenets of fascism that distinguish it from other far-right ideologies. Britain First barely has an ideology at all, and with its focus on the issues of "free speech" and "radical Islam," it sits more with the alt-lite/alt-right "ideologies." Websites that label it "fascist" do so as an epithet. If Wikipedia is supposed to be balanced, then we should assess things as we see them, and not falsely label groups as something they are not.

King Flib (talk) 15:13, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

This was discussed at Talk:Britain_First#Fascism. We follow the sources in this regard. The sources observe Britain First to be a fascist organization, despite their denial. Binksternet (talk) 15:18, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

San Diego Hoaxer

Hi Binksternet - I notice that you’ve done a lot of editing of the Robert Palmer page including trying to sort out the issues caused be the San Diego hoaxer. It looks like references to Palmer's supposed first wife and children stem from this hoaxer. Historical articles and articles from reliable sources all only mention one wife and two children. Thanks - Canberra8649 (talk) 10:12, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Okay, good information. I'll take a look at the most reliable sources when I have time, and remove the other stuff. Binksternet (talk) 19:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
  Done. Thanks again! Binksternet (talk) 19:10, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Genre warring

Hi Binksternet,

I was reverting modifications of a french contributor (92.93.201.39) that has altered the genres of music/artists of english pages. You have also done the same thing in the past. He seems pretty active on frwiki too, so I have to take care of his modifications... Can you leave him a message adapted to your practices and tell him to stop in the future? Thank you in advance. Lofhi (talk) 22:21, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

James Fetzer et al

Hello there. You have deleted or modified information pertaining to the articles James Fetzer and Harry Oldmeadow. You have not explained your reversions of these sourced edits which have been made in accordance with elemenatary principles of wikipedia. Threats pertaining to 'Edit Wars' simply will not hold. 82.27.90.157 (talk) 23:24, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

In adding "Distinguished McKnight University Professor Emeritus" based on a primary source, you are edit warring with several other editors who have a valid complaint: that the holder of the Distinguished McKnight University Professor chair cannot be "emeritus". To quote: "Recipients hold the title 'Distinguished McKnight University Professor' for as long as they remain employed at the University of Minnesota." Having left the university in 2006, Fetzer gave up that title twelve years ago. He remains of course a former holder of that distinction, which was awarded to him in 1996, and was applied to his title for ten years.
The biography Harry Oldmeadow sports a huge, ugly template declaring multiple problems, yet you focus on small changes such as putting "perennialism" into the first paragraph, even though nothing in the article says his focus is on perennialism. This is a violation of the WP:LEAD guideline.
I'm keeping an eye on those articles after seeing your combative behavior. Binksternet (talk) 23:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Sorry to sound rude but if you have ever worked (or studied) within a university you will know that the title 'Emeritus' is a title given to certain retired university professors considered to have given distinguished service. Such an assertion is not 'combative' but rather very elementary within the confines of university bureaucracy. Fetzer's title can be confirmed in looking at his University of Minnesota web page. 00:23, 26 May 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.90.157 (talk)
Fetzer's bio page at U of M Duluth was written by his wife. I put more trust in the University's own assertion, "Recipients hold the title 'Distinguished McKnight University Professor' for as long as they remain employed at the University of Minnesota." Binksternet (talk) 01:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

IP Whois template

Hi  

I have to admit that I might have caused a misunderstanding here. This might have caused 82.27.90.157 to remove the Whois template, which I personally would not have removed. However, the template's documentation also explicitly says:

Please do not use this template on the talk pages of evidently good-faith constructive IP users, since its wording could be misunderstood as implying the IP's edits are problematic. Restoration of this template is not exempt from the edit warring policy, and editors who repeatedly restore it may be blocked to prevent further disruption.

I hope this explains and solves the problem. Thank you very much for all your work! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:46, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. Binksternet (talk) 18:02, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

"The String Quartets" by Jethro Tull

You removed this album from two different pages, and I can't seem to figure out how to undo it. I've never had to cite a reference to add an album to a discography before. The album is plainly visible in the discography of Jethro Tull's website as a Jethro Tull album: http://jethrotull.com/discography/. It's also marketed as a Jethro Tull album on the Amazon.com website: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_16?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jethro+tull+the+string+quartets&sprefix=Jethro+Tull+The+%2Caps%2C135&crid=1BNFL0VUY0WWV. Please restore.Divamanhughes (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

I brought back the The String Quartets to the discography article, while we are discussing the issue. However, it appears to me that the album is more about Ian Anderson and the Carducci Quartet than it is about the group Jethro Tull. Binksternet (talk) 04:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Relatives in infobox

Hey Binksternet, you might see this editor's revision anyway, but is it correct to add a parent that doesn't have an article to the infobox? I thought we only mentioned notable ones (i.e. with an article) in the infobox. Ss112 06:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

You're right, only notable relatives are listed by name in the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 14:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

World Wisdom etc

World Wisdom - America's leading publisher of Perennialist literature - describes Traditionalism: Religion in the Light of the Perennial Philosophy (2000) as 'an authoritative introduction to the perspective of Perennialism'. Martin Lings called it 'an excellent introduction to the Perennialist perspective' (page xi, The Underlying Religion). Indeed the book received the University of Sydney's Medal of Excellence in Research award. All this seems to jar with your claim that the book has 'very low prominence'. Do you have some specific reason why the book should not be recommended? 82.27.90.157 (talk) 13:56, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes. I looked at the book on Google Scholar and saw that it received a very low number of cites from other authors. You added two books to the "Further reading" section, and one of them by Martin Lings was cited by 16 others.[9] The Oldmeadow book was only cited by two others.[10] More than that, you appear to be promoting Oldmeadow, so I am looking hard at your Oldmeadow-related contributions. Binksternet (talk) 14:11, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
If citing a scholar who is regarded as an authority in his field is promotion then I am guilty as charged. But if you forgive me for being frank I don't think this is really the issue. Harry Oldmeadow is a very well known scholar within Traditionalist Studies. It is simply untrue to say that his work has very low prominence. On the other hand he is just a little old man who writes about religion. Why should you be so concerned? I think rather the issue is that you have some personal animus towards me since our Jim Fetzer altercation. Fetzer is a divisive figure. I understand that. But whatever it is it is not about scholarly disagreements. Your recent reversions of my other edits related to The Traditionalist School - unrelated to Harry Oldmeadow - demonstrate this. For example, you undid my link to The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of The Times, a work by Rene Guenon. 82.27.90.157 (talk) 15:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Sock

Any idea who Special:Contributions/The_Lotto_Genius is? They were quite prolific before self-destructing, and didn't seem like a newbie. - BilCat (talk) 01:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

BilCat, this is what I wrote to get him blocked. It's Hoggardhigh who you have already tangled with. He appears to have been blocked in the range Special:Contributions/2606:A000:F0CA:DA00:0:0:0:0/64 – a range where you reverted his disruption multiple times. Hoggardhigh was indeffed a year ago. On July 23, 2017, he edited through an Alabama IP, Special:Contributions/172.56.5.211. A handful of other US southeast states have hosted his IP location. He keeps returning to the Pournelle chart article; all those 172.58 IPs are him editing from Florida/Georgia/North Carolina, and you called out the sock User:Who Are Those People in the edit history. So you've known this guy for a long time. Binksternet (talk) 02:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, OK. He didn't tick the usual boxes that Hogg usually ticks, so I didn't catch that it was him. - qBilCat (talk) 03:38, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Madoka79

given that the user a final warning (but recently removed). Any disruptive edits after that, make sure to report it. 183.171.123.78 (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Britain First

Britain First is not a fascist political party. They openly denounce fascism and there is no indication they are. The only truth is that they have been labelled as fascist. Now that is quite different from being a fascist. Wikipedia should not be biased in any way. Correct the wording, please. Let the article state that the group is far-right and many people call it fascist, instead of stating that they are fascist.[11] --Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Chicago's line-ups

Robert Lamm did in fact play Hammond organ on "Lowdown" and Terry Kath used distortion and wah-wah on his electric guitar on that song. This cannot be negated by listening to the song. Giving such ambiguous words such as guitar and/or keyboards may create uncertainty about what type of guitars or keyboards were used. 1.43.34.138 (talk) 03:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Listening to the song and deciding who played what instrument is not how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia is built on WP:SECONDARY sources. If you have a reliable source listing the personnel and what they played, then bring that to the article. Binksternet (talk) 13:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Who's Next

The "home studio" where The Who recorded "Won't Get Fooled Again" was in fact Stargroves, Mick Jagger's country home in Hampshire. 61.69.205.223 (talk) 06:40, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

But nobody talks about the album as being a home-studio album. If nobody says the album is a home-studio album, then it is not a defining characteristic, and in order to follow the guideline at WP:CATDEF, we don't list that category. Binksternet (talk) 04:00, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Glam metal

Hello Binksternet, I thought to go to your talk page because of the issue that an anonymous user is repedetly putting the Eagles and The Rolling Stones as pioneering glam metal bands. It is an unsourced addition, but if I repeatedly delete it I could get blocked, so I was wondering if you could revert his edits and try to protect it from the addition of the two bands. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it, thank you. Sixty Minute Limit (talk) 14:27, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Already keeping track of that. If I see it, I'll revert it. Binksternet (talk) 17:05, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Sixty Minute Limit (talk) 17:50, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Peter Gabriel - Biko

This is listed on the page for this song as being the instrumental credits for the song:

Gabriel provided lead vocals and piano.[22] Robert Fripp, Paul Weller and Dave Gregory performed guitar. However, the names of the individual instrumentalists for each track was not included on the sleeve of the album.[29] The guitarist for "Biko" is thought to be David Rhodes, Gabriel's longtime collaborator.[29] A 2016 "listener's companion" to Gabriel's music named Phil Collins as the drummer on the song, Larry Fast as playing the synthesizer, and Jerry Marotta as playing the snare drum.[22]


The part where it says that the album did not list individual credits for each track is false. All of the individuals are listed for each track on the lyric sheet that came with the album. I don't know if represses/rereleases over the years docked that, but on the original Mercury Records release from 1980, it specifies that David Rhodes did play the guitar on this track, that being the reason I first edited that page.

without sources

I sincerely apologize for any edits i did not provide reasoning or sources to

Lil google (talk) 9:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

One Hit Wonders List

The One Hit Wonders list is inaccurate and incorrect. Several acts that are not one-hit wonders are being treated as such. A Flock of Seagulls, Madness, Matthew Wilder, a-ha, Dead or Alive, 'Til Tuesday, and Swing Out Sister have had subsequent Top 40 hits. I propose we go back to using the Hot 100 as the standard for determining one-hit wonders. 50.111.24.195 (talk) 19:21, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

You would need to propose a WP:Request for comment on the talk page, at Talk:List of one-hit wonders in the United States, if you want to change the inclusion criteria. Naturally, your proposal will be judged against the previous one from last fall which you may read at Talk:List_of_2010s_one-hit_wonders_in_the_United_States#Inclusion_criteria. Note that there was a clear consensus there, which means your effort will be an uphill battle. Your proposal will need to address the concerns about how the strict statistics-based definition of having only one Top 40 hit doesn't correspond very well with the sources calling an artist a one-hit wonder. Binksternet (talk) 20:01, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
The RfC is posted. 50.111.24.195 (talk) 16:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Block evading IP

I reverted some of his edits , but he is going on reverting your contributions. Kpgjhpjm 08:28, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, it's clearly vengeance against me reverting his contributions as Special:Contributions/166.182.84.40 and also Special:Contributions/74.42.44.222 who was blocked last September. This guy is a long-term disruption problem, but tonight he's on a crusade. Binksternet (talk) 08:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Turns out it's User:Sugar Bear evading his block. Binksternet (talk) 03:08, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
You're an idiot. 74.42.44.210 (talk) 19:26, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
And you're blocked. SQLQuery me! 19:39, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Everything Is Love

Would you like to weigh in this discussion regarding Metacritic's indication of "universal acclaim" be used to verify that this album "was met with widespread critical acclaim"? Editor SummerPhDv2.0 has objected to this, reasons detailed here above the discussion. Only if you interested. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 17:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Binksternet (talk) 23:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Citing reliable sources

Why do I keep citing reliable sources? What should I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.253.107.14 (talk) 12:33, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Aussie sock returns

I filed an SPI report. Can you check it out? 183.171.122.247 (talk) 13:51, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Need citation

Giving citation might be better... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.253.107.14 (talk) 22:42, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

No. Don't change the date and then tag it as needing to be fact-checked. Binksternet (talk) 22:47, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Chicago Article - Adding Live Albums

Hello Binsternet,

I just added the Chicago II Live at Soundstage album to this article, and I noticed you deleted all of the live albums. The album in question does appear on the Discography page. Wouldn't it make sense to also leave the live album list in the main article, since some of those albums are assigned a number based on how Chicago numbers their albums. By removing them, it looks like some of the albums are missing here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.212.21.197 (talk) 00:43, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Well, the band also counts greatest hits compilations in their numbering system, so no, I don't think we should include live albums or compilation albums on the band page, just to preserve their unusual numbering system, when there is a perfectly good discography page for all of the albums. Feel free to read the relevant guideline at Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines#Discography section. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Binksternet,

Thanks for your response to my inquiry. I have reviewed the relevant guideline you provided about generally not including live albums in the discography section of the musician's primary article, and confess I was unaware of this. The only additional consideration I would add is since it states the "primary article should also provide a summary of the musician's major works," that at least Chicago at Carnegie Hall might reasonably be considered one of the band's major works. It was one of the best selling box sets of all time (per the Wikipedia article for that album). The Chicago: VI Decades Live (This is What We Do) four CD and one DVD box set of all new material from the band's entire history might also be considered a major work based on the scope of the project. This band probably has more official live albums than most groups, who might only have one live album. I think including at least some of the live albums in the main article here might be warranted, but will abide by your decision either way. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.212.21.197 (talk) 20:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

The Carnegie Hall live album is already discussed in prose in the article body. The prose has redundancies; it needs some work. But I consider the prose discussion of the album to satisfy the requirement of summarizing the major works. Binksternet (talk) 21:42, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Multiple IPs

I don't know how to use just one IP and i didn't vandalized nothing. --189.216.123.94 (talk) 07:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

When you add something to Wikipedia like this, please cite a source. If you use a reliable source, and summarize it accurately, your changes will be good. Binksternet (talk) 07:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

AllMusic

Would you like to weigh in this discussion regarding AllMusic should be in infoboxes over other publications. Only if you interested. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 22:59, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Unsure

Hello Binksternet. You reverted and said it was block evasion. What block do you think this person is evading? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:40, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

I meant to say that Special:Contributions/2605:A000:1406:C0D6:6859:EA28:9D1F:28A5 was evading the block on Special:Contributions/2605:A000:1406:C18F:452B:55F5:67BC:376.
If you're asking has this person registered a username, I don't know.
I think we could benefit from a rangeblock on Special:Contributions/2605:A000:1406:C0D6:0:0:0:0/64. Binksternet (talk) 01:56, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
How about a block that covers both, like one on Special:Contributions/2605:A000:1406:C000::/54 ? The block on the single IP ending in 376 was issued by User:Ohnoitsjamie for three months on April 19, and it increased the duration from a prior block on the same IP issued by User:Widr. If we decide to block the /54 it would have to be for three months if it is to do much good. EdJohnston (talk) 03:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
That's a great idea. :)
Binksternet (talk) 04:39, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018

 
Your Military History Newsletter

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 12:11, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Satanic Rites

Hello. I see you have reverted unreferenced changes to the Satanic Rites article regarding the demos influence on black metal. I have added a couple of sources and completed the sentence in the lead that had been left cut-off for well over a year. :] GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Looks good. Binksternet (talk)

Animation and home entertainment

Why accuse me of vandalizing Wikipedia? I was only correcting every detail about everything I see in the story of Don Bluth's All Dogs Go to Heaven (1989), and on the history of its home video releases. The original VHS release on August 28, 1990 includes a commercial for Boys & Girls Clubs of America featuring the late Dom DeLuise, and a trailer for Rock-a-Doodle (1991), another of Bluth's animated films. Plus, I know Jonny Quest vs. The Cyber Insects (1995) is an American television film produced by Hanna-Barbera, but it was animated overseas by Fil-Cartoons in Manila, Philippines. So did the closing credits told me, Fil-Cartoons appear to be responsible for associating with Hanna-Barbera on its other animation projects including The Pirates of Dark Water (1991–1993), Young Robin Hood (1991–1992), The Addams Family (1992–1993) and The Halloween Tree (1993). So... WHAT'D YOU THINK I'M AT?! A TRIAL AT SOME KANGAROO COURT?!?!?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.57.136 (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is supposed to be a summary of published knowledge, the summary part being not all the less-important details, and the published part being, you know, published by a reliable source rather than a person such as yourself watching the end credits and guessing that a subcontractor is associated with the larger company. If it's not published, we don't include it. Binksternet (talk) 04:54, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to agree, but I'm afraid Wikipedia is terribly mistaken. According to the end credits, nearly all western animation in film, television and home entertainment were either outsourced or subcontracted to Asian animations studios, just like many of Rankin/Bass' stop motion and hand-drawn animated productions which were animated overseas by the Japanese studios. Seriously, an example detail is that there were no source of overseas production on the pages about Warner Bros. Animation's Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman and The Batman vs. Dracula which were both animated by the South Korean studio DR Movie. If I were you, I'd need to re-expand each page in western animation with every production detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.224.57.136 (talk) 03:11, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm not against having this information, I'm just asking that you find published sources such as this one that talks about how Rankin/Bass set the stage for cheaper production of American cartoons by outsourcing its animation to Japan. If you can find sources like that for your Batman examples then you're in business. Binksternet (talk) 03:46, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

This edit might amuse you, you've reverted another by the same editor

[12] Doug Weller talk 11:06, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Amusing or disturbing, depending on your viewpoint. That person is clearly not cut out for Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 14:54, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Extra track listings

Hello, I noticed that you removed an infobox track listing with the summary "rv infobox bloat, unimportant".[13] I personally feel that these are of limited value and contribute to "bloat". This was discussed when infobox song and single were merged, but there was no consensus, due mostly to one holdout (who was later blocked as a socket puppet). Is it time to revisit the issue? I think several editors would still support removing them. FYI, this is the current guidance from the template documentation page. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:02, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's time to revisit the issue. How many songs exist which have their album position as a significant fact? Very few, and those few would be well-served with a prose description of why the song's track listing position is important. Binksternet (talk) 16:05, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Would you or JG66 be willing to take the lead on this? I've got a few other template issues I'm dealing with right now. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, Ojorojo. Binksternet, I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying about the partial album track listing in infoboxes. In the past, I've supported the inclusion of a (hidden) full track listing in the infoboxes, because I believe that is at least informative – to show the song's place in the context of the whole album – although not in articles where there's already a navbox containing the full track listing. I think (and the discussion to which Ojorojo links above is one example) consensus probably veers more towards doing away with any sort of listing, and I wouldn't be opposed to that. Whatever it takes to remove those partial lists with just the preceding and following tracks. JG66 (talk) 17:22, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to comment at the new discussion: Template talk:Infobox song#Make it go away -- partial track listing. Binksternet (talk) 21:32, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Do you or JG66 think a RfC is needed? It seems that since thousands of articles may be affected, more notice should be given. Here's an example. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:10, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
At Template talk:Infobox song#Make it go away -- partial track listing, the discussion is clear about partial track listing: nobody is defending it. A formal RfC would only be required if you are seeking more changes than the simple removal of the partial track listing. Binksternet (talk) 17:15, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
OK. Do you want to close that discussion with "Unanimous consensus is to remove partial track listings from song infoboxes". That way, it can be referenced when updating the infobox guidance and when editors object to their removal. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
I think a RfC is the way to go, because, as you say, Ojorojo, "It seems that since thousands of articles may be affected, more notice should be given." It may draw out the process but at least if there's opposition to the removal of a partial (or full) track listing at a particular song article, somewhere down the line, we can link to the RfC, which by definition invites a wider forum than a series of discussions at Infobox Song. The point being that we want to sort out this issue once and for all, and the more people who are involved across the project, the more convincing the decision/outcome is. JG66 (talk) 03:11, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
@JG66: I thought it was a good opportunity to address all the track listing issues, but there wasn't enough interest. Anyway, at least the partial listings are gone. May we can see the response and possible problems, then take it from there. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:32, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Smokepurpp

Does this article need semiprotection? I see a zillion IP edits and it appears many of them are getting reverted. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, you bet. Binksternet (talk) 03:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

  The Barnstar of Diligence
Especially for your determination in tracking persistent, disruptive sock accounts. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:51, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Too kind... Binksternet (talk) 04:17, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Heads up

Your conspiracy theory about me editing from the State Dept. and logging out to correct spelling errors are both aspersions and is a false accusation of socking. See here: [14][15] I already said you should have a chance to delete the aspersions[16], but they're still up there and I see you have been editing since then so it's not an issue of being too busy. Please be advised that if you do not delete the false claims, I intend to seek a remedy to this situation that will probably be a report filed on you. Jerry the Bellybutton Elf (talk) 01:14, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Just as you're free to file a report, I'm free to tell others what conclusion I drew from the editing sequence of you–IP–you working on the same draft material within a short window of time. I noticed that you did not deny editing from the US State Dept IP, instead saying something evasive about Foggy Bottom and weather extremes.[17] (By the way, it's not "illegal" to edit logged out. There's a policy page you can read about the use of WP:MULTIPLE accounts.) My conclusion has not shifted, yet, as no hard facts have come to light to make me change my mind. Feel free to demonstrate to me how I'm wrong... I am fully capable of accepting new information and rethinking my position on an issue. Binksternet (talk) 01:33, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
I said I've never been to the State Dept. For your theory to prove correct, I would need to hack into the State Dept., make my edit (while logged in), log out, add the letter "r", and then log back in. That's your "conclusion"? I don't have to demonstrate why you're wrong. You don't get to just make accusations against other editors and attempt to WP:OUT them without any evidence. Since it looks like you have no plans to rectify your error, I'll notify you here after the dispute has been opened. Jerry the Bellybutton Elf (talk) 01:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
The report link is here[18] in case you have a change of heart. Sorry this had to escalate but I'm not going to just allow my reputation to be trampled. Jerry the Bellybutton Elf (talk) 02:02, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Exodus

Please stop reverting editors's changes on the Exodus article. Adding information that happens to be correct and is worth being mentioned in an article on Wikipedia is not vandalism. 205.154.222.41 (talk) 17:26, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

The source from Ultimate Guitar is unreliable as it was written by a user. The source Metal Insider confirms the widely used term "Big 4" but then plays around with the concept of "Big 8" as conjecture. It's conjecture. The same is happening at Blabbermouth, where they confirm "Big 4" but the interviewer asks a question with conjecture about what might be considered the "Big 8". Chuck Billy replies "I don't see any other bands that were the 'Big whatever.'" So Chuck Billy confirms the Big 4 and denies the Big 8. Binksternet (talk) 17:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Help with Ip

Since you know a lot about music articles, can you check out these contributions to see if they are legit. This ip is making a lot quick without discussion. thanks JC7V7DC5768 (talk) 15:55, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

I've seen that person around before, editing from Puerto Rico IPs. Most of the changes are good, and the ones that are not so good aren't vandalism, just a non-standard style. Binksternet (talk) 17:09, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Sonny Seeza

Thank you for editing this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Seeza), but I've never heard of such a nickname as "Lil Suavé". I don't know where the previous editor got it nickname, but Sonny Seeza always been known simply as "Suavé". As evidence, I can show for example this photo from the booklet of ONYX's debut album "Bacdafucup" (1993): https://img.discogs.com/9K_q21DLUozO2xyTq1vjJjBzV0c=/fit-in/600x634/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4803312-1446234566-4825.jpeg.jpg Felix Montana (talk) 21:31, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

I hear you, even though Discogs.com is not reliable because they allow users to upload images and change the information. Binksternet (talk) 21:32, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

I agree about discogs, but i'm working with Onyx since 2014 as a blogger, I read many articles and interviews from magazines and websites, i myself create many posts and I swear that I've never heard such a nickname as "Lil Suavé", he always was known as Suavé (from 1988 to 1994) then he change his name to "Sonny Seeza" (while Onyx working on a second album in 1994). As another evidence I can offer his biography on his page on Bandcamp: https://sonseeza.bandcamp.com (Tyrone Taylor (born November 13, 1970) better known by his stage name Sonny Seeza who was previously known as both Suavé and Sonsee, is an American hardcore rapper from Brooklyn, New York and an original member of the hardcore rap group Onyx.) Felix Montana (talk) 21:59, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Reboot (fiction)

What exactly was clunky about what I wrote? I was quoting both sentences straight from the refs. 2A00:23C5:2E01:FB01:A52A:1086:7A72:6E6F (talk) 21:56, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Really? You've been edit warring at that damn article for months now. You have no leg to stand on. But, to answer your question, this edit contained the clunky English, with "already been established" replaced by you to read "already been previously established", which is redundant.
The troublesome aspect of your edits has been discussed many times by other editors, especially on the Super Sentai article. If you keep inserting unreferenced material, written in poor English, you will be facing a rangeblock on your many North Lincolnshire IPs. Binksternet (talk) 23:04, 31 July 2018 (UTC)