- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Usman Ja'far
- ALT1: ... that before entering politics, Usman Ja'far ran one of Indonesia's largest retail store chains?
Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 10:48, 8 December 2022 (UTC).
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The nomination and article both look good to me. The hook is interesting and I assumed good faith with the translation. I made some changes like splitting up sections, fixing typos, etc. I assumed good faith with the Indonesian sources since I am only fluent in English and Afrikaans. Earwig checks out and no QPQ is required. One of the issues I have, is that very little is mentioned about Ja'far's time as Governor and tenure as a member of the People's Representative Council in the article. Maybe include notable events that happened during his tenure as Governor and as a member of the DPR? I also have an issue with the brief mention of a graft investigation. Why was he investigated for graft? Can you perhaps elaborate more on the investigation and make a section dedicated to that? Otherwise, the article looks great. Lefcentreright Discuss 00:08, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Lefcentreright: The investigation seemed to be relatively brief and happened before his death, and I'm icky about adding a non-verdict investigation under BLP (granted, it closed because he died, not because he was found not guilty). I cannot seem to find much notable items under his governorship (maybe there are some, but those sources are not in my reach), much less so as a councilor. I will add more in the future if I come across new sources, but for the time being I doubt I can expand those sections materially. Juxlos (talk) 07:05, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Hi, @Juxlos:. I agree with your sentiments regarding the article. I may have scrutinized the article a little bit too much. I mainly write about South African politicians and sometimes I literally have to dig like an archeologist to find sources. What is actually the most important is the hook and the hook is mentioned and cited within the article. Lefcentreright Discuss 14:45, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Reviewing... Lefcentreright Discuss 21:54, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
The nomination and article both look good to me. The hook is interesting and I assumed good faith with the translation. I made some changes like splitting up sections, fixing typos, etc. I assumed good faith with the Indonesian sources since I am only fluent in English and Afrikaans. Earwig checks out and no QPQ is required. One of the issues I have, is that very little is mentioned about Ja'far's time as Governor and tenure as a member of the People's Representative Council in the article. Maybe include notable events that happened during his tenure as Governor and as a member of the DPR? I also have an issue with the brief mention of a graft investigation. Why was he investigated for graft? Can you perhaps elaborate more on the investigation and make a section dedicated to that? Otherwise, the article looks great. Lefcentreright Discuss 00:08, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
