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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by EEng (talk) 13:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Reserved for You

  • ... that the opening scene of the 1958 horror film The Screaming Skull displays a casket with a card reading "Reserved for You" (pictured)?
  • ALT1:... that in the 1958 horror film The Screaming Skull the narrator promises the audience a free burial service if they die of fright while watching the film?
  • Reviewed: Not a self-nomination

Improved to Good Article status by Taylor Trescott (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 12:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC).

  • @Yoninah: How do you know that those details weren't checked? The user obviously knows what they are given (eg the number of articles they've had through the process) so why is a comprehensive bureaucratic list of everything which was checked necessary? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Because them's the rules. See T:TDYK#How to review a nomination:
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

  • With all the recent discussion at WT:DYK about ensuring accuracy in articles and proper citing in hooks, we cannot pass a nomination with "GTG with ALT1, it is the better hook IMO." We must see which criteria have been reviewed, and if it's not enough, other editors will be able to weigh in with additional criteria-checking. Yoninah (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
  • "The opening scene closes on a casket" is awkward, even if I was sure what it meant. I kind of like the free burial service in ALT1. Also suggest including "1958" to orient the reader. EEng (talk) 02:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Article promoted to GA on 14 June and is certainly long enough. It is well referenced and the hook facts are cited and verified by source. No close paraphrasing found on spotcheck of online sources. I have (hopefully) improved the wording of the original hook; personally I prefer ALT1. The only issue I can see is that the image for the original hook has a PD tag with the rationale that it was published before 1923, except that the film was only released in 1958. If the image is actually in the public domain it needs an explanation as to why. 97198 (talk) 01:50, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Maybe a bit tighter:

  • ALT2:... that the narrator of the 1958 horror film The Screaming Skull promises free burial to any audience member who dies of fright?

EEng (talk) 02:54, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

  • Thank you all for reviews, comments and improvements of the hooks. I personally now would prefer ALT2, then without the image. To address 97198's concerns about the image license, we may ping the uploader, @Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) and ask if he would like to comment. But for the DYK, the image is not needed for the ALT1 or ALT2 hook. Oceanh (talk) 03:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
  • That the film is PD because copyright was never registered is referenced in the article itself, to a reliable source (Turner Classic Movies); a similar statement, with the link, is already on the image page. As such, all screenshots from the film are free (I also verified that the film's copyright was not renewed before uploading, although the soundtrack was). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for clearing that up, Crisco - I hadn't seen the relevant text on the image page. Both the original hook (with image) and the ALT1 (without) are good to go. 97198 (talk) 13:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
  • 97198, the nominator prefers ALT2, but you're approving the original hook and ALT1. Is there a problem with ALT2? Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I should have said ALT2 as well - all three are fine. 97198 (talk) 05:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

ALT2 to prep2. EEng (talk) 13:30, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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