Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Goodwood (naval)

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Operation Goodwood (naval)

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• ... that Operation Goodwood (preparations pictured) did not result in significant damage to the German battleship Tirpitz, but the ship was eventually sunk a few months later?

• ALT1:... that Operation Goodwood (preparations pictured), a series of British air raids conducted against the German battleship Tirpitz in August 1944, did not result in significant damage to the ship?
• Reviewed: Not a self-nomination.

Improved to Good Article status by Nick-D (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 13:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC).

• Promoted to good status today, clearly meets length requirements, is neutral and cites sources inline (including source which DYK hook is based off). All of the sources (with the exception of one dead link) are offline, so I'm assuming good faith. The picture is in public domain and in the article. The hook just barely meets length requirements. However, it is not written in a particularly interesting fashion. I would talk more about the intensity of the attacks on the ship. Reading through the article, it is kind of surprising that it did not sustain more damage. When you fix the dead link and tweak the hook, it will be good to go. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:20, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you for the review. I have replaced the dead link. Not quite sure what you mean by suggesting more talk about the intensity of the attacks, something like these ALT2 or ALT3 hooks?

• ALT2:... that Operation Goodwood (preparations pictured) embarked the largest group of Fleet Air Arm aircraft assembled up to that point in the war?
• ALT3:... that Operation Goodwood (preparations pictured) embarked the largest group of Fleet Air Arm aircraft assembled up to that point in the war, but did not significantly damage the targeted Tirpitz?

• Oceanh (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

• Alts2 and 3 don't work grammatically: military operations can't 'embark' aircraft. The reason I hadn't nominated this for DYK is that I couldn't come up with a pithy-but-interesting hook either. Nick-D (talk) 08:58, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

  ALT4 ... that Operation Goodwood (preparations pictured), was the last in a series of "intensely disappointing" attempts to sink the German battleship Tirpitz?

  ALT5 ... that Operation Goodwood (preparations pictured), was the last "pathetic" attack on Kaafjord by the Fleet Air Arm?

  ALT6 ... that puny Goodwood no match for German hulk?

I'm not sure how accurate 4 and 5 are from reading the article (maybe not at all). ALT6 is definitely accurate as it was already used in "Did Puny Human Know?" on Hulkopedia. Belle (talk) 11:24, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT4 looks very good to me - thanks. ALT5 isn't accurate: the results of the attack have been called "pathetic", not the operation itself (which was a pretty impressive effort). I'm not a fan of unclear hooks like ALT6 to be honest. Nick-D (talk) 11:30, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT4 also looks good to me. Number 6 feels more like an April Fool's Day DYK. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 13:49, 18 July 2014 (UTC)