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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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Luscombe Castle edit
... that Luscombe Castle contains the last remaining chimneypiece made by the sculptor John Flaxman?
5x expanded by Worm That Turned (talk) and Staceydolxx (talk). Nominated by Worm That Turned (talk) at 13:23, 20 August 2016 (UTC).
- This article was promoted to Good Article status on August 17th, well within 7 days of the nomination. It's long enough at 11861 characters per DYKcheck. Apart from the lead, every paragraph has at least one footnote. Hook fact is footnoted and can be confirmed in online source via JSTOR. Earwig OK. No issues with neutrality. No pics to worry about. The one minor problem with this nomination is that the QPQ review is still on-going, with no final verdict there yet. So we should hold till that review gets completed.
for now. --PFHLai (talk) 06:52, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- This article was promoted to Good Article status on August 17th, well within 7 days of the nomination. It's long enough at 11861 characters per DYKcheck. Apart from the lead, every paragraph has at least one footnote. Hook fact is footnoted and can be confirmed in online source via JSTOR. Earwig OK. No issues with neutrality. No pics to worry about. The one minor problem with this nomination is that the QPQ review is still on-going, with no final verdict there yet. So we should hold till that review gets completed.
it seems that this is not the last remaining chimneypiece by him. There is one in the V&A[1], there may be one for sale here (also mentioned here, so apparently not a replica). The Liverpool Museums also have one[2]. Perhaps the one at Luscombe Castle is the only one still in situ, but with such an outdated source, I would just look for a different hook and drop this one. Fram (talk) 13:30, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
- That's fair enough, I was under the impression it was the last one in situ, but how about this for an ALT, it's not as interesting, but definitely correct. WormTT(talk) 10:51, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Luscombe Castle is an asymmetrical, picturesque castle near Dawlish, Devon?
New reviewer needed to check ALT1, including whether it is sufficiently interesting. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- I think that "picturesque" is a bit peacocky, how about
- ALT2 ... that Luscombe Castle is a nineteenth century building embellished with castellated parapets, turrets and pinnacles? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:53, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
ALT2 is too dull. ALT1 is close but the place is a house, not a castle. The word picturesque seems fine as this is a distinct architectural style. Here's my suggestion. Note that we should include a picture. Andrew D. (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- ALT3:
... that Luscombe Castle (pictured) is a picturesque house with more than one ha-ha?
- I checked the castle on Google Maps aerial view and I have a feeling the two mentions of the ha-ha in the Historic England source are actually part of the same thing; partly running along the south and east boundaries immediately around the castle itself. Sorry, I can't think of a suitable ALT; it's not like Ickworth House which had plenty of "interesting" owners that did all sorts of "hooky" things. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:50, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- I have struck ALT3 as dubious. I do not think there is any such thing as a "picturesque" architectural style. I would like to suggest
- ALT2a ... that Luscombe Castle is a nineteenth century house embellished with castellated parapets, turrets and pinnacles? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- There is clearly a picturesque style as we have a substantial article on the subject and Historic England quote Humphrey Repton as saying that this was intended in this case. ALT2a is no better than ALT2 and won't do as it seems too dull. Andrew D. (talk) 23:05, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- ALT3:
- Would John Vietch's big trees in the garden, "the largest in England", be good enough as hook material? --PFHLai (talk) 11:44, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- At 12 feet (3.7 m) tall they do not greatly impress me. How about
- ALT4 ... that Luscombe Castle (pictured) housed evacuees during World War II and became a Barnardo's home for girls after the war? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:09, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- ALT4 seems okay to me, but is the current ref an RS? @Worm That Turned, Staceydolxx, and Cwmhiraeth: Can that paragraph be beefed up a bit with more refs, please? Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- I struggled to find any better references for the fact to be honest, which is why I never suggested it as a hook. WormTT(talk) 09:27, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- The source is from Barnado's itself so is likely to be reliable for this fact. What about a hook including the fact that the design is based on that of Downton Castle? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:08, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- I would be ready to approve ALT4, but how about an American garden for an English house? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- The source is from Barnado's itself so is likely to be reliable for this fact. What about a hook including the fact that the design is based on that of Downton Castle? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:08, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- I struggled to find any better references for the fact to be honest, which is why I never suggested it as a hook. WormTT(talk) 09:27, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
- ALT4 seems okay to me, but is the current ref an RS? @Worm That Turned, Staceydolxx, and Cwmhiraeth: Can that paragraph be beefed up a bit with more refs, please? Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- ALT5 ... that Luscombe Castle (pictured) in Devon has an American Garden developed between 1812 and 1814? - Works for me. Johnbod (talk) 04:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
I like ALT5 best, thank you! Offline sources accepted AGF, support the review by PFHLAI. The image is licensed and a good illustration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
