Talk:Wilhelm Albert, Duke of Urach

Latest comment: 14 years ago by Martynas Patasius in topic Pretense and notability

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How can he be hereditary King of Lithuania, as his ancestors were never crowned, and the state is over 85 years a republic? --Lokyz 08:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Look at the Pretender article. Xanthoxyl 13:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Pretense and notability edit

I see that (just as in the article "Karl Anselm, Duke of Urach") the bit about this man being "pretender to the throne of the Kingdom of Lithuania (with the irredentistic pretension to Latvia)" has been readded ([1]) with the edit summary "He's the direct descendant and heir of the first, only and last King. Do the Orléans need a source to be the heirs of France?". Now, of course, the answer to that question is "Yes", as original research, while a good thing in articles of scientific journals, is completely unacceptable in Wikipedia's articles. And there is a reason for that: who are we - random (and often anonymous) strangers who edit Wikipedia - to make our opinions on the matter worth noticing? So, if there is no source, the should be no mention of "being the pretender", especially given the policy Wikipedia:Biographies of living people.

And furthermore - should the whole article exist? Practically all information in this article is already given in the article "Duke of Urach", while almost everything else either should be removed anyway, or probably should be given there. Essentially the only sentence sourced to what might be a reliable independent source is "He is described as an engineer who lives at Ossenberg Castle near Düsseldorf."... So, wouldn't it be better to make this article a redirect to that one? --Martynas Patasius (talk) 18:24, 24 April 2010 (UTC)Reply