Talk:Wartime sexual violence

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2024

In the subdivision of the section "History of laws against sexual assault during war" called "World War II", I request for where it says 'The International Military Tribunal for the Far East did convict Japanese officers "of failing to prevent rape" in the Nanjing Massacre, which is known as the "Rape of Nanking". The tribunal, in Tokyo, prosecuted cases of sexual violence and war rape as war crimes under the wording "inhumane treatment", "ill-treatment", and "failure to respect family honour and rights". According to the prosecution, in excess of 20,000 women and girls were raped during the first weeks of the Japanese occupation of the Chinese city of Nanking' to 'The International Military Tribunal for the Far East did convict Japanese officers "of failing to prevent rape" in the Nanjing Massacre, which is known as the "Rape of Nanjing". The tribunal, in Tokyo, prosecuted cases of sexual violence and war rape as war crimes under the wording "inhumane treatment", "ill-treatment", and "failure to respect family honour and rights". According to the prosecution, in excess of 20,000 women and girls were raped during the first weeks of the Japanese occupation of the Chinese city of Nanjing' please. 95.151.134.154 (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

 Note: I believe the request is to replace all instances of "Nanking" to "Nanjing" in this paragraph. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 04:10, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done. — Antrotherkus ^{Talk to me!} 18:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 February 2024

I petition to remove the following: In Hamas' surprise attack on Israel in 2023, Hamas performed acts of sexual violence against Israeli women, including mutilation, rape and torture. [47][46][48][49]According to an investigation of New York Times journalists, who used video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, there were at least seven locations where sexual assaults and mutilations of Israeli women and girls were carried out. They concluded that these were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern in which Hamas "weaponized sexual violence" during the attacks.[50][51]

Citing the Oct. 7 investigation by the New York Times without citing multiple other media reports that debunk and question that report -- which has caused considerable ire and controversy internally -- is irresponsible and perpetuates a false narrative that has exacerbated relations during an already tumultuous conflict. A recent investigation published by the Intercept includes comment from a NYT spokesperson that said: "She [reporter Anat Schwartz] was told there had been no complaints made of sexual assaults. This however was just the very first step of her research. She then describes the unfolding of evidence, testimonies, and eventual evidence that there may have been systematic use of sexual assault. She details her research steps and emphasizes the Times’s strict standards to corroborate evidence, and meetings with reporters and editors to discuss probing questions and think critically about the story.” The key word here is may, which is a reversal from their original claim of definitive evidence. Given the rapidly changing nature of this allegation -- which is grave and has calamitous consequences -- I encourage the editors of this article to refrain from including this instance until there is definitive evidence. 198.115.84.243 (talk) 20:21, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Not done for now, note there is an ongoing discussion about this at RSN, NYT Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2024

In the subdivision of the history section called Boxer Rebellion, I request for where it says "The forces of the Eight-Nation Alliance, upon their capture of Peking, went on violent rampages against Manchu civilians, looting, raping, and murdering numerous civilians they came across" to "The forces of the Eight-Nation Alliance, upon their capture of Beijing, went on violent rampages against Manchu civilians, looting, raping, and murdering numerous civilians they came across" please. 2A0A:EF40:1232:F101:5443:C859:A04:2281 (talk) 16:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 00:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2024

In the subdivision of the history section called Boxer Rebellion, I request for where it says "The forces of the Eight-Nation Alliance, upon their capture of Peking, went on violent rampages against Manchu civilians, looting, raping, and murdering numerous civilians they came across" to "The forces of the Eight-Nation Alliance, upon their capture of Beijing, went on violent rampages against Manchu civilians, looting, raping, and murdering numerous civilians they came across" because most people know the city by the name of Beijing and Peking is just a Western word. 95.147.145.134 (talk) 19:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 21:59, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2024

Change: "As Tamil women got raped by Japanese, the Japanese soldiers contracted venereal disease like soft sore, syphilis and gonorrhoea and Thai women also spread those diseases to coolies on the railroad."

To: "As Japanese soldiers raped Tamil women, they spread sexually transmittal diseases (STDs) such as chancroid, syphilis, and gonorrhea. These epidemics in turn spread among Thai women and male railroad laborers."

Justification: Reworded to assign the actions of rape and of spreading disease to the men actually perpetrating mass rape, rather than using passive language or assigning the actions to the unwilling victims. Changed disease terminology to consistently reflect the medical names rather than common names. Changed the outdated and offensive term "coolies" to more descriptive language. Yimmeny (talk) 23:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

That whole section needs work: poor grammar and sourcing of non-academic works written more than half a century ago.

Some of your changes such as saying there is a link between the outbreak between Japanese soldiers and coolies isn't supported by the source. Gonorrhoea is just the British spelling of the term and isn't anymore of a 'medical name' than gonorrhea. Coolie is the proper term to describe the labourers and isn't going to be removed due to it being potentially offensive per WP:NOTCENSORED.

I have reworded that sentence by linking it to the aforementioned rape. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion to change:

"This lead to Japanese soldiers contracting venereal disease such as chancroid, syphilis and gonorrhoea. These diseases were also spread to coolies through Thai women living in near the railroad."

To:

"This lead to Japanese soldiers contracting and spreading venereal disease such as chancroid, syphilis and gonorrhoea. These diseases were also spread among coolies and Thai women living near the railroad."

Agreed, the original needs more work than this.

Again, there is a subtle tendency here to assign the action of spreading disease to the women and the suffered outcome of contracting the disease to the men. At best the spread of STDs is equally shared among all in the chain of exposure. In an article about sexual violence, especially, it's important to be careful about this language. Arguably, those who are raping multiple people in groups are doing the action of spreading disease, not the unwilling victims.

In my opinion, I don't think coolie is a well known term any longer, and it seems to me to be more useful and formal to use the clarity of "low-wage rail workers" than pejorative slang.

Change in spelling of gonorrhea was unintentional. Thank you. I only intended to change "soft sore".

It was not my goal to create a link between the first and second parts of the paragraph. I assumed the intent of the original author and sought to preserve it, perhaps poorly.

Thanks. Yimmeny (talk) 17:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)