Talk:Twinka Thiebaud

Discussion

Fixed Redwood High School page and worked on grammar and notability. Stellabystarlight (talk) 18:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I've included citations within the article as requested and continuing to search for more. But would appreciate it if someone who knew wiki policy and form better could fix my citations. Stellabystarlight (talk) 02:20, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

To whomever marked this article as a form of "advertisement," please explain your reasoning. And it has already gone through a notability deletion process, I believe, and been voted as a "keep." If you could make your objections clear, perhaps someone could do something about it. All articles about anything, especially a person, could be construed as calling attention to itself. How is this any different than so many other biographies on wiki? I ask in all sincerity and expect a reasoned answer so that if there actually is a good purpose served by your tag, something can be done about it. What I can't understand is tagging something for others to clean up, and then trotting off to officiate over some other subject...especially when there is no explanation.Stellabystarlight (talk) 01:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I've decided to remove the tag left by the whoever never bothered to explain themselves. If it transgresses the rules, perhaps someone will answer all my questions above.Stellabystarlight (talk) 20:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I think the article needs some clean up, but giving it a quick glance, if I were to tag the article, I might add {{POV}}, not {{advert}}. There is also a touch of {{essaylike}}. If you want to see who added the tag, look at the page history, which you can reach by clicking the "history" tab at the top of the article. Here is a direct link to the history. Then you could directly ask the editor who added the tag for his/her thoughts. I think part of the problem is with the POV. A phrase like "there is nothing coy or shaming about Twinka's nudity" needs a citation. Also the external links embedded within the article make it look more like an advert, but if these were turned into references they would probably be OK. I don't have time to edit the article right now to show you what I mean, but hopefully these suggestions will point you in the right direction. P.S. I don't see that this has gone through AFD, as mentioned above. Valfontis (talk) 15:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

I originally added the advert template, and I still believe that the article is written with a very promotional tone. Passages I might cite in support of this include these: "both charming and shocking" ... "The photo caused a shock wave in America's art world which found itself forced to rethink the female nude" ... "At home with Henry Miller, Twinka discovered that Henry was a great talker, regaling his almost nightly guests with tales of his past and his work. Listening, she began to keep a notebook of her version of what he said each evening." Additionally, as mentioned above, external sources are poorly integrated into the text; many laudatory quotes are copied in with little surrounding context. If you think it should be given a different template (such as {{POV}}, then feel free to replace it, but I think it should be acknowledged that this article requires some cleaning up. Gyre 18:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)