Talk:Toshio Tamogami

Latest comment: 9 years ago by 151.151.109.8 in topic Expansion

Expansion edit

Tamogami has also said in interviews that he does not believe Japan should have apologized for Comfort Women during world war II and that the Rape of Nanking was a myth. All of this is certifiable by watching English Language interviews on Youtube. Remember its not slander to report what someone says. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.151.109.8 (talk) 16:30, 16 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Name change edit

This article really isn't about Tamogami's life and probably never will be. It's more about the essay he wrote and the controversy it caused. I suggest that the article should be renamed, "Tamogami essay incident" or "Tamogami essay controversy." Cla68 (talk) 09:55, 13 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, I'm neutral on that I think. I agree on the current content. I do think it would be ideal to expand it into a more legitimate biography, since head of a country's air force is usually the sort of thing that merits a Wikipedia biography. The problem in this case is that most of the sources for anything other than this incident are probably solely in Japanese, so someone who can read Japanese sources would have to do the expansion. --Delirium (talk) 10:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)Reply
I am not sure if it is entirely appropriate but in response to Delirium's suggestion I have translated some of the Japanes page. I have not included the references which are to well known Japanese news media providers.--Timtak (talk) 04:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
One problem is that the "undue weight" clause of the BLP policy might preclude including all of the details of the essay controversy in this article. But, I think you're right that he is notable enough to have his own bio article. I think, then, when I get around to it, that I'll start a separate article on the essay controversy. I've noticed that it has been widely reported on in the media (in fact, I saw a wide show discussing it yesterday on TV), so I think it's notable enough for its own article. Cla68 (talk) 23:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Obiter dictum edit

The article ("Other outspoken remarks", second sentence) originally said, "On the occasion of an unsuccessful civil case brought against the government for sending troups to Iraqi, he [Tamogami] remarked Obiter dictum, that he felt that some of the activities Japan Air Self-Defense Force were against Japan's peace constitution, causing the litigants to claim a spiritual victory."

I deleted "obiter dictum", because it means a statements by a judge as part of his/her written judgment in a court case, though not part of the holding in the case. So Tamogami's remarks could not have been "obiter dictum", unless Tamogami was a judge in this case. I gather he was not, because he was a military officer and there is no indication that he was also a lawyer or a judge. I assume whoever wrote this just didn't understand the meaning of "obiter dictum". If Tomagami was in fact a judge in this case, that should be explained. James Dunlap (talk) 02:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Reply